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      01-19-2022, 10:54 AM   #1
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First speeding ticket in 20+ yrs (georgia)

Yep, bast*rd caught me and the embarrassing part is I never saw him. Think he was driving on the other side of the hwy and got me. Anywho he clocked me going 90 in a 65 in Georgia which means I have to pay the ticket plus super speeder penalty. So 520 + 200. Crazy thing is I had just left a f'n casino and won money.

1. What is Super Speeder?
Georgia's 'Super Speeder Law' defines a Super Speeder as a driver convicted of speeding at 75 mph or more on a two-lane road or at 85 mph and above on any road or highway in the State of Georgia. In addition to the fines and fees paid to the jurisdiction where the speeding offense took place, a $200 Super Speeder state fee is to be paid by the convicted driver. Failure to pay the Super Speeder fee within 120 days of official notice will result in the suspension of the offender’s license or driving privileges. Payment of a $50 reinstatement fee in addition to the $200 Super Speeder fee will then be required to reinstate their license or driving privileges.


Also points system in GA:§40-6-181

Speeding:

15 to 18 mph over the speed limit

2 Points

19 to 23 mph over the speed limit

3 Points

24 to 33 mph over the speed limit

4 Points

34 mph or more over the speed limit

6 Points


I'm debating if I should get a lawyer or represent myself and try to get the ticket down to under super speeder speed which would get my points down as well; or just pay the ticket + SS and move on.

Generally speaking anyone had to deal with this type of thing and definitely interested if anyone in GA could speak up if they have experience or know a good lawyer?
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dude did you admit to speeding, did you get clocked radar, lidar, paced?...at any rate you get likely get the points down and still pay the fine even if you are caught red handed
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Lawyer up or at the very least go to court. I’ve done that twice now and both times they just said with the group just to pay the fines and court fees and points will be dropped. Although this was many, many years ago in Los Angeles.
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I also went 20 years without a ticket until about 6 months ago. Not even driving my M, commuting in my Touareg. Unmarked Taurus clocked me as I approached from behind. 23 over speed limit. Called wife told her I just received a speeding ticket. Her response "it's about f*cking time!" Paid ticket and purchased a radar detector.. unbelievable how many cops with radar are around us. I haven't used a radar detector for years.. I will never go without one again.
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dude did you admit to speeding, did you get clocked radar, lidar, paced?...at any rate you get likely get the points down and still pay the fine even if you are caught red handed
I admitted to 80 because yeah it could have been higher tbh. He showed me the gun before I said 80, but I didn't ask the type of gun it was. I think I'll make the trip to court at a minimum as you make a good point.
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well now you are locked to 80 over and appropriate points. but with a 20 year clean driving record. you can likely plead to a non moving violation but pay the OG fine
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Yep, bast*rd caught me and the embarrassing part is I never saw him. Think he was driving on the other side of the hwy and got me. Anywho he clocked me going 90 in a 65 in Georgia which means I have to pay the ticket plus super speeder penalty. So 520 + 200. Crazy thing is I had just left a f'n casino and won money.

1. What is Super Speeder?
Georgia's 'Super Speeder Law' defines a Super Speeder as a driver convicted of speeding at 75 mph or more on a two-lane road or at 85 mph and above on any road or highway in the State of Georgia. In addition to the fines and fees paid to the jurisdiction where the speeding offense took place, a $200 Super Speeder state fee is to be paid by the convicted driver. Failure to pay the Super Speeder fee within 120 days of official notice will result in the suspension of the offender’s license or driving privileges. Payment of a $50 reinstatement fee in addition to the $200 Super Speeder fee will then be required to reinstate their license or driving privileges.


Also points system in GA:§40-6-181

Speeding:

15 to 18 mph over the speed limit

2 Points

19 to 23 mph over the speed limit

3 Points

24 to 33 mph over the speed limit

4 Points

34 mph or more over the speed limit

6 Points


I'm debating if I should get a lawyer or represent myself and try to get the ticket down to under super speeder speed which would get my points down as well; or just pay the ticket + SS and move on.

Generally speaking anyone had to deal with this type of thing and definitely interested if anyone in GA could speak up if they have experience or know a good lawyer?


I to live in Georgia (Atlanta). I got ticket back in the day around 2006 in my E36 M3. I had just installed a CAI and chip and I was putting her thru her paces. I saw a cop coming towards me from other direction no lights just driving by but when i saw him i prayed he didnt turn around. I kept my eye in the rearview and saw him turn around lights on. By that point i was way down the pkwy and was thinking about taking off but eventually i stopped and pulled over. He called for backup. Long story short I got 4 tickets that day (reckless driving, failure to stop, evading or somnething or the other and something else). I was f*cked. Anyways he asked if i knew how fast i was going i said no. He said sir i clocked you going 100+ and i wasnt even gaining on you. Insoide i smiled for minute but i told him i had just fixed an issue with my speedometer and that it might still be malfunctioning (not toally untrue). Either way I showed up to court 3 times first 2 times the cop didnt show up. The 3rd time they threw the case out and gave me a warning!! I could not believe my luck. Takeaway... Go to court and fight it and hope for the best.

What area of georgia are you in??
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Lawyer. My lawyer got my case dismissed on a technicality, and it was for a higher speed than yours. I never even met her or went to court, it was all handled by email. Worth every penny.

Remember that over and above any fines that you may pay for the infraction, you'll likely get dinged by your insurance, probably for at least three years, and potentially paying even more for insurance than your fines cost.
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I've been through Georgia on two separate trips to FL, and I swear there is no limit in GA or it at least feels that way. You have to be 85+ on the highway just to keep from getting ran over. Good luck!
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When I had the Alfa I got hit with LIDAR doing 140+. He only shot me and when my detector lit up he had me. I lawyer'd up because I was facing Felony Speeding & Felony reckless driving due to speed...... that would have been my license. I had already had a total loss on my first M4 from a unwitnessed hit and run and a speeding ticket I fought and loss so I will lawyer from now on
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Go to court

I have experienced this twice. Yes, I like to speed, but never have had a ticket in the M.
In Doraville the solicitor dropped the speed to non super speeder, but attached the super speeder fine to the city’s fine. So still had to pay the same amount, but avoided points and the State.
Cobb County also dropped the speed to be under the super speeder, but collected the money too.
I both cases I used a lawyer to help the system move along. I have learned that in traffic court you shutting up and someone else talking achieves better results. As the saying goes money talks and helps your bullshit ass walk away better in the criminal money system.
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I have experienced this twice. Yes, I like to speed, but never have had a ticket in the M.
In Doraville the solicitor dropped the speed to non super speeder, but attached the super speeder fine to the city’s fine. So still had to pay the same amount, but avoided points and the State.
Cobb County also dropped the speed to be under the super speeder, but collected the money too.
I both cases I used a lawyer to help the system move along. I have learned that in traffic court you shutting up and someone else talking achieves better results. As the saying goes money talks and helps your bullshit ass walk away better in the criminal money system.
For the folks familiar with atlanta I live in the stn mountain area, but the ticket happened on a hwy in Hambersham County (north Georgia). if it were local it'd be a no brainer to contest, but yeah either way plenty of valid points in this thread.
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I would fight every single ticket if I didn't live in communist NYC. We don't even have a real court here. Our traffic court is a clown show.
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dude did you admit to speeding, did you get clocked radar, lidar, paced?...at any rate you get likely get the points down and still pay the fine even if you are caught red handed
I admitted to 80 because yeah it could have been higher tbh. He showed me the gun before I said 80, but I didn't ask the type of gun it was. I think I'll make the trip to court at a minimum as you make a good point.
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dude did you admit to speeding, did you get clocked radar, lidar, paced?...at any rate you get likely get the points down and still pay the fine even if you are caught red handed
I admitted to 80 because yeah it could have been higher tbh. He showed me the gun before I said 80, but I didn't ask the type of gun it was. I think I'll make the trip to court at a minimum as you make a good point.
Lawyer & go to court. I have gotten off 2x b/c the equipment used to capture my speed wasn't calibrated w/in a certain time frame. I can't speak to the laws in Georgia but would guess there are like requirements.
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If you do hire a lawyer and go to court, don’t take the stand.
This was a truck driver loosing his commercial drivers license, as a juror in Texas in a traffic case, we the jurors were going to go judge that the laser used for speed measurement was not properly calibrated, but the plaintiff had told the cop he was speeding and agreed to it on the stand. The law is the the limit is the limit and anything over is speeding. He was fcking pissed and stared me down as I was the last juror out of the box.
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Here in FL you always hire a ticket attorney and if you have no recent tickets, it will either get dismissed outright, dismissed with court costs and no points or get dismissed with court costs and driving school to avoid points. At a minimum talk to a ticket attorney. It isn’t the same outcome everywhere. I got a ticket in SC a few years back and spent a fortune on legal fees to keep it off my record. Would have cost $79 here in FL.
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So out of curiosity for those with experience "lawyering up" for tickets like this, what is the typical cost for said lawyer (and I know costs can vary depending on where you live)? But more importantly, what is a typical cost analysis breakdown of:

Lawyer $$ vs Ticket/Court $$ + Insurance Rate Increase $$

I would assume the insurance rate increase (due to points) would definitely add up over several years. But maybe not as bad as it initially seems : ??
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So out of curiosity for those with experience "lawyering up" for tickets like this, what is the typical cost for said lawyer (and I know costs can vary depending on where you live)? But more importantly, what is a typical cost analysis breakdown of:

Lawyer $$ vs Ticket/Court $$ + Insurance Rate Increase $$

I would assume the insurance rate increase (due to points) would definitely add up over several years. But maybe not as bad as it initially seems : ??
Costs aren’t just tied to location, but also severity of offense, recent ticket history and for insurance recent claim history to which you are adding a reason for an increase. For insurance, it sticks with you for at least a few years.

In FL $79 - $109 for atty, and court costs can be zero to a few hundred, depending on recent history of other tickets and severity of offense. I haven’t been to traffic school in many years, so don’t know what that costs these days. Guessing $100-$200 when necessary. Ticket costs depend on speed, but can be less than $100 to into the hundreds. I haven’t had anything hit my record so can’t speak to specific increase, but know it will stick with you for years and it stands to reason it will vary based on severity of infraction and other insurance history. So here in FL, it’s a no brainer to try to keep it off your record rather than pay it because the cost is relatively low.

When I got a ticket in SC they atty cost me something like $400 for an under $100 ticket and then I had to pay a FL atty to fix a clerical error that let it get reported, but again even if insurance went up only $100/yr (and I am guessing it would be more) for 3-5 years, at least equal to get rid of it.
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I have had experience with getting two tickets handled by attorneys in NC about 10-12 years ago. I cant remember the exact speeds but both were approx 80 in 55 mph zones. I don't know exactly how the lawyers handled it but the first one was $350 to pay for the lawyer and whatever court costs. the second ticket was literally a year later to the day. It ended up costing a little over $500 to cover everything.

Whatever they did ended up netting me no points and no increase on my insurance which was big for me since I was 19/20 at the times. I would assume that the increase to insurance would have been astronomical in comparison.
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it never helps to just pay the ticket. if you hire a lawyer, they can almost always work out a better outcome for you. if it's a really stupid ticket (like the 2 separate 9 over tickets my wife got in the span of a few months), you can fight it yourself easily, but otherwise i'd get a lawyer
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So out of curiosity for those with experience "lawyering up" for tickets like this, what is the typical cost for said lawyer (and I know costs can vary depending on where you live)? But more importantly, what is a typical cost analysis breakdown of:

Lawyer $$ vs Ticket/Court $$ + Insurance Rate Increase $$

I would assume the insurance rate increase (due to points) would definitely add up over several years. But maybe not as bad as it initially seems : ??
It's been almost 4 years but I think my ticket was around $200. This was for 100+ MPH and I was clocked by a motorcycle cop with a radar gun on the side of the road in a restricted access HOV lane in SoCal. Pretty much a slam dunk. Ironically enough, I was in my wife's brand new M3. It had just gotten redelivered from our Euro Delivery trip and I hadn't yet installed her V1. I was taking it back to the dealer because the 1200 mile run-in service wasn't done at the VDC and the dealer missed this. Some guy in a 335i started showing off and, well you know the rest...

I don't remember how I found this attorney. She only does traffic tickets. She went to court twice, once for a hearing and once for the trial, where the ticket was dismissed. I never met her and didn't even have to appear and the case was dismissed. For the next year, I would occasionally search to find out if I had anything on my record or whether there were any warrants out for me!

Years (decades) ago, during the OPEC oil crisis, circa early '70s, Nixon reduced the national speed limit to 55 MPH. I got 5 speeding tickets in a year, all for going over 55 on a freeway. My GF at the time lived 60 miles away and 90% of the route was on the interstate. My insurance got canceled, I got put in the assigned risk insurance pool, and paid thousands of dollars in extra insurance costs over a 5 year period. Having a bad record definitely costs bucks. Anything you can do to lessen that is probably worth it.
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