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03-06-2012, 03:57 PM | #156 | |
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At any rate, that's good news -- I still believe that the M badge doesn't belong on any SUV.
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03-06-2012, 04:07 PM | #157 |
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No X3 M and no Z4 M but it does not mean no X3 M35i and Z4 M35i. However I would expect a an X4 M. I would think there will be no X3 M because it is not ready for the new engine and BMW wants to make the premiere of the first V6 on the M3.
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Anyone else notice how the muffler is very similar to the one we saw on the 1M? It seems that have that same single pipe -> quad tip design.
I think this will be a Straight 6 derived from the N54 or maybe N55 |
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03-06-2012, 06:15 PM | #159 |
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Z4 M35i already exists in the Z4 S-drive 35is. But yes, for the next generation Z4 (or even the LCI), I believe they'll change the branding from the "is" tag to the "MXXi" tag.
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That is what I meant. If the M135i does not get any N54 but a different N55 version, then with the 1M stopping production, I'd expect to see the the Z4 sDrive35is E89 with N54 get replaced by the Z4 M35i E89 LCI with N55, and the same for the X3 M35i F25 LCI. |
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Because the X6M is in some markets the best selling "M" model. BMW would not overlook the potential of a more compact X4M especially for customers who cannot stretch to the all-singing and all-dancing X6M. But back in the early days of the X6 development , it was only the X6 was being conceived for M. But because of the issue that the X6 is based on the X5 the economies of scale proved too much to overlook. X4 again is based upon the X3 and do not be surprised if the same thing happens again. Because in the Automotive industry - all of the above applies today , it may be different tomorrow.
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03-12-2012, 11:23 AM | #163 |
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it sounds like a 335 in the vids.. the current v8 sounds like screaming nascar!
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I kno all u guys are gonna miss the V8, but how can u justify only having 295 ft lbs of torque? Just like the old V10 M5...ALL noise NO torque!
Give me a 6 cylinder twin turbo with 450hp and 450ft lbs of torque. Then I'll stick on downpipes, exhaust, upgraded intercooler, fuel pump with a tune and see at least 550-600hp and 550-600 ft lbs of torque. Call it a day!
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As of right now, I feel like the next generation isn't going to have that sound of the E9x M3 and it's sound will be much closer to the F10 M5. I hope I'm wrong and the Fxx M3's will sound amazing but I'm not going to expect anything even close to what the E9x M3's sound like.
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Allot of speculation, nonetheless great looking car
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May be way to early but what type of numbers performance wise are we gonna be talking? The E9X cars (DCT) have hit 0-60 in 3.9. It's seems to me that if the new turbo models are gonna make 450lb feet of torque and are gonna weigh less than the current model, won't traction become an issue and more electronic gizmos will be needed? I know some say that the 295 torque that the current M have is week but maybe to me it's seems like a pretty fine balance. Just my 2 cents
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Very aggressive looking indeed! Love the new video.
From head on, I am really distracted by the two silver bars behind the kidney grills. IMHO, it kind of ruins the whole front end of the car. If I ever plan to get the F30 M3, the first mod I would do is to paint those two silver bars. Quote:
Death Valley is next for sure since I have not seen any videos of the F30 M3 in extremely hot weather.
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e9x from factory 0-60 in 3.9? dct? please post up more than one case. they weight like 4000 pounds and have 400 flywheel and like 260 lb's tq. those numbers do not add up. The new M3 looks interesting though, would love to see a turbo setup on it. |
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in the new video the rear looks huge even though the sound was a little washed out from what I could hear it sounded pretty good to me
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Incandescent turn lamps in a $75,000 car.
1) I don't understand why BMW adds LED lights in the LCI of its 3-series, but then removes them when the next generation is introduced. This is third time it's pulled that stunt. 2) If the F80 LCI doesn't include a refreshed front end, that means there will be no chance for LED signals up front until the F80 successor.
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