02-02-2014, 12:34 AM | #309 |
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Wow, I am sick and tired of this, I never said that, don't believe it and can barely believe you would write this. Get your head screwed on straight and READ, without READING INTO.
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If you can't hear the difference between a Ferrari V8 at 8000rpm and a E92 M3 at 8000rpm, then you must be one of the few... Just as you write long essays on "your" subjects to explain things, so should I be allowed to when you clearly have shown a lack of elementary understanding of the two V8 concepts. Something so basic, that I know of NO other disputing it... Instead you attack me and my English (something you have also done to others on these boards that have English as their second language). So, a S65 sounds similar to a Corvette until the 'Vettes redline and then the S65 changes into a flat plane crank V8 sound? Sorry, but I have not yet heard a S65 with a exhaust sound remotely like a flat plane V8. Come to think of it, neither do a NASCAR V8 sound like a flat plane V8 either... And they do 8000+ rpm... Like it or not, the cross plane sound is present even at redline, not as a burble that you easily hear at idle, but as that off beat exhaust sound (not that it sounds bad, just different from a flat plane exhaust). That character is not present in that GT40 nor in a flat plane V8, nor in a I4 engine. But at least you now acknowledge that you have to use 180 degree headers (as per Ford GT40 and S63Tu) to replicate the flat plane sound. Something I have said all along... But isn't "only" at idle the sound differs, it is all through the rev range: And at what rpm does this straight piped F430 sound more like a cross plane V8 than two I4 engines? And does this sound more like a Corvette or a Ferrari V8 Last edited by Boss330; 02-02-2014 at 08:43 AM.. |
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Man, I love the sound of WRC cars. The burble and pop of the anti-lag off throttle.
And there will always be a special love in my heart for the sound of Subaru's flat 4 on the WRC car. Sigh. |
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The difference here is that you, over and over, blatantly misrepresent my opinions and statements to further your opinion. I've pointed out those cases explicitly and keep telling you what I do believe. Don't bother posting video after video for me, I don't listen to them. Listening to videos for capturing all of the subtlety of vehicle noise is a a bit silly. Given massive variation in the quality of recording equipment and playback equipment. Sure one can hear an exhaust warble, not doubt but overall it's a bit silly. Now that being said I have posted two videos in which I believe there is great similarity in the sound between a V8 M3 (with aftermarket/modded exhaust system) and a modern V8 Ferrari. Quote:
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Now here with you, you misspoke, I know you know better and gave you that credit but you still want to bitch about it? Quote:
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Unfortunately, because sound can and often is so subjective, there will be no end to this discussion. Bruce was pretty well on track with his comments on our debate. I am going to leave it there.
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It's comments just like that, that are totally unnecessary. Maybe you don't see it yourselves. But that is just uncalled for. You could have argued about how he misunderstood you and just stopped at that. But instead you claim no wrongdoing (as ususal) and instead say that he was hypersensitive (even though others also commented on the tone of your post) about "his Perfect English"... You are a very intelligent member of these boards and I have learned a LOT from you. But you should maybe ease off on the insults (veiled or open) and perhaps sometime see that it's not allways the others that are wrong or have written in a less than clear manner. |
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