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      10-04-2021, 02:58 PM   #551
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https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...ness/work.html

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...s-us-quicktake

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/heal...u-need-to-know

https://apnews.com/article/26096a878...c0ddff98a5fe6d

The Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine is 91% effective in preventing the COVID-19 virus with symptoms in people age 16 and older. The vaccine is still under an emergency use authorization for children ages 12 through 15.
https://www.mayoclinic.org › in-depth
That's pretty old data and information and very little of it considers what the Delta variant has been capable of between July and now. You're going to be very disappointed when you see just how ineffective the vaccines have been against transmission and hospitalization in vaccinated people that hadn't been previously infected by COVID. It will be NO WHERE near 91% effective. Try ~60% effective after just a couple of months of getting the vaccine even worse if you're elderly, obese, or some other serious condition.
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https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...ness/work.html

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...s-us-quicktake

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/heal...u-need-to-know

https://apnews.com/article/26096a878...c0ddff98a5fe6d

The Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine is 91% effective in preventing the COVID-19 virus with symptoms in people age 16 and older. The vaccine is still under an emergency use authorization for children ages 12 through 15.
https://www.mayoclinic.org ' in-depth
That's pretty old data and information and very little of it considers what the Delta variant has been capable of between July and now. You're going to be very disappointed when you see just how ineffective the vaccines have been against transmission and hospitalization in vaccinated people that hadn't been previously infected by COVID. It will be NO WHERE near 91% effective. Try ~60% effective after just a couple of months of getting the vaccine even worse if you're elderly, obese, or some other serious condition.
It's been effective enough to keep me from getting infected. And we do go out to dinner every weekend.

https://oklahoma.gov/content/dam/ok/...i%20Report.pdf

"Oklahoma released their updated data. 645 hospitalizations out of 1.8m vaccinated. And there were .5% Breakthrough cases (vaccinated) vs 1% reinfections (had covid already). Both are rising."
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It's been effective enough to keep me from getting infected. And we do go out to dinner every weekend.

https://oklahoma.gov/content/dam/ok/...i%20Report.pdf

Oklahoma released their updated data. 645 hospitalizations out of 1.8m vaccinated. And there were .5% Breakthrough cases (vaccinated) vs 1% reinfections (had covid already). Both are rising.
i mean, thats not a great measure. Not being vaccinated was effective enough to keep me from getting infected and i ate out nearly every day while i continued to go in to work and was out in public all through the shutdowns last year.

Also, take a look at how they are reporting breakthroughs. Many places are no longer reporting them. Hospitals around here are reporting no breakthrough cases, and yet every day there are breakthrough cases admitted to the ICU
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Captainblood and Littlebear still carrying the " vaccines will save us" narrative. Fauci would be so proud of his little soldiers.
You keep spouting that RT stuff; Peutin must be laughing hard at gullible dudes like you.

I, and I imagine Captain Blood, are glad to do something so important for our country that costs us so little.
Lil' Q-tees like you wouldn't understand the obligations....
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i mean, thats not a great measure. Not being vaccinated was effective enough to keep me from getting infected and i ate out nearly every day while i continued to go in to work and was out in public all through the shutdowns last year.

Also, take a look at how they are reporting breakthroughs. Many places are no longer reporting them. Hospitals around here are reporting no breakthrough cases, and yet every day there are breakthrough cases admitted to the ICU
Yeah I was out in it everyday. Got a hair cut and went to the bar as soon as I could. I had friends that worked from home, and only went to the grocery store and got it. I either had it 15 times and no symptoms or I am immune.
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That's pretty old data and information and very little of it considers what the Delta variant has been capable of between July and now. You're going to be very disappointed when you see just how ineffective the vaccines have been against transmission and hospitalization in vaccinated people that hadn't been previously infected by COVID. It will be NO WHERE near 91% effective. Try ~60% effective after just a couple of months of getting the vaccine even worse if you're elderly, obese, or some other serious condition.
Why are you so hung up on absolutes?
The general trends are down, down more where vaccinations are higher, down more where masks are worn, down more where people voted for Biden, etc.
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It's been effective enough to keep me from getting infected. And we do go out to dinner every weekend.

https://oklahoma.gov/content/dam/ok/...i%20Report.pdf

"Oklahoma released their updated data. 645 hospitalizations out of 1.8m vaccinated. And there were .5% Breakthrough cases (vaccinated) vs 1% reinfections (had covid already). Both are rising."
I eat out everyday. And did so throughout this whole covid deal. No vax and no covid.
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Why are you so hung up on absolutes?
The general trends are down, down more where vaccinations are higher, down more where masks are worn, down more where people voted for Biden, etc.
I can find info stating the opposite.
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It's been effective enough to keep me from getting infected. And we do go out to dinner every weekend.

https://oklahoma.gov/content/dam/ok/...i%20Report.pdf

Oklahoma released their updated data. 645 hospitalizations out of 1.8m vaccinated. And there were .5% Breakthrough cases (vaccinated) vs 1% reinfections (had covid already). Both are rising.
i mean, thats not a great measure. Not being vaccinated was effective enough to keep me from getting infected and i ate out nearly every day while i continued to go in to work and was out in public all through the shutdowns last year.

Also, take a look at how they are reporting breakthroughs. Many places are no longer reporting them. Hospitals around here are reporting no breakthrough cases, and yet every day there are breakthrough cases admitted to the ICU
How do you know they're not reporting breakthrough cases?

FYI I'm glad you haven't caught Covid yet. But I would expect that you would sooner or later, considering your lack of prophylactics. What happens if you catch Covid at an inconvenient time, when you're sick, or have some other health issue pop up at the same time? Are you prepared to deal with long Covid? If you catch Covid, and didn't have to, and require hospitalization, Will it affect other people who have not been affected by Covid (Through vaccination and mask wearing and social distancing) but require hospitalization?
You know, flatten the curve.
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How do you know they're not reporting breakthrough cases?

FYI I'm glad you haven't caught Covid yet. But I would expect that you would sooner or later, considering your lack of prophylactics. What happens if you catch Covid at an inconvenient time, when you're sick, or have some other health issue pop up at the same time? Are you prepared to deal with long Covid? If you catch Covid, and didn't have to, and require hospitalization, Will it affect other people who have not been affected by Covid (Through vaccination and mask wearing and social distancing) but require hospitalization?
You know, flatten the curve.
my family and friends work in healthcare at the hospitals.

Also, im vaccinated. There is an increasing number of unhealthy vaccinated people in the ICUs since Delta became a thing. Delta really doesnt seem to gaf about vaccine status if you are unhealthy.

Edit: to expand on the breakthrough reporting. They report severe cases in the hospital. However, if you are in the hospital for anything, and test positive for covid, even if its unrelated to why you are there (think, in for a broken arm and test positive) and are unvaccinated, it ends up being counted as a hospitalized covid case in most systems. Even during rounds and case presentations, this is evident as unvaccinated are always brought up if they have covid, regardless of why they are there, where vaccinated are not. This whole politicizing of the vaccine has made some pretty toxic work environments in the healthcare world as it has become more and more of a "Us vs Them" thing.
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I can find info stating the opposite.
Find the rate of testing in Palestine vs Israel.

"Thirty Israelis were reported to have died of COVID-19 between Friday morning and Saturday night, the Health Ministry showed, as the fourth wave continues to surge across the country, striking hardest young, unvaccinated citizens."

https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/...-report-680214

We have been over the Ireali/Palistine #s before. What don't you understand now?
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That's pretty old data and information and very little of it considers what the Delta variant has been capable of between July and now. You're going to be very disappointed when you see just how ineffective the vaccines have been against transmission and hospitalization in vaccinated people that hadn't been previously infected by COVID. It will be NO WHERE near 91% effective. Try ~60% effective after just a couple of months of getting the vaccine even worse if you're elderly, obese, or some other serious condition.




54% of hospitalizations in RoI are fully vaccinated--

"DUBLIN--Health officials confirmed that the majority of Covid-19 cases in Irish hospitals are now vaccinated. According to data from the Health Service Executive, more than a quarter of ICU admissions since July have been “breakthrough infections” in fully vaccinated individuals."
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That's pretty old data and information and very little of it considers what the Delta variant has been capable of between July and now. You're going to be very disappointed when you see just how ineffective the vaccines have been against transmission and hospitalization in vaccinated people that hadn't been previously infected by COVID. It will be NO WHERE near 91% effective. Try ~60% effective after just a couple of months of getting the vaccine even worse if you're elderly, obese, or some other serious condition.




54% of hospitalizations in RoI are fully vaccinated--

"DUBLIN--Health officials confirmed that the majority of Covid-19 cases in Irish hospitals are now vaccinated. According to data from the Health Service Executive, more than a quarter of ICU admissions since July have been “breakthrough infections” in fully vaccinated individuals."
Link?
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Link?
can just google the 1st sentence of his quote.

https://freewestmedia.com/2021/09/13...ly-vaccinated/
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