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      01-25-2014, 05:53 PM   #23
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Based on your location I have no clue if you are American or Canadian. If you are Canadian you will loose more. I traded my M3 2011 e92 for a new Benz E350 with similar milage I made out okay since I worked one dealership against another both sharpened there penciles very sharp to earn my business. In the end I went with the best offer and made out okay. Mind you I still lost money, what one does not do to keep a happy wife

whatever you do you will loose money trust me

except if you keep your car then you are a winner
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      01-25-2014, 06:03 PM   #24
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Slightly off topic but...

I know the new model is usually superior performance wise. However, in stock form I cannot see how the M3/M4 can compete for the next five years. The jump in performance specs seems minimal compared to the past few generations.
I say keep your car. Maybe this time BMW will not wait five plus years before a model reboot.
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      01-25-2014, 07:21 PM   #25
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You don't need a new one.
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      01-25-2014, 07:26 PM   #26
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I'm guessing the OP would say "need" has nothing to do with it.

OP, did you try entering your car data into Autotrader Instant Offer? Takes 5 mins and will tell you what you want to know.
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I sold mine privately. Save yor self the time to try to sell it to the dealership. I had a 2010 with 14 k miles on kbb it was worth 43k as trade in on private it was 46k . The dealer offered me 36 on a trade I just laughed and left so I sold privately in 2 weeks.
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      01-25-2014, 08:54 PM   #28
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Again... I've done KBB etc. I know the value of the car and the innerworkings of buying a car however, this would be my first time trading an older model car for a newer version. I was curious if this transaction would be a bit simpler given the low miles and novelty of the m3/m4. As far as "need"... Me flirting with the idea Is no worse than folks on here trading their 1-2 y/o M for the newer one.
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      01-25-2014, 09:03 PM   #29
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Interesting timing... I just traded in my '11 E93 with 15k miles a couple of hours ago. All the online places were showing 47k trade in value but the dealer offered 44k. After some negotiating I got them to 46k. I wasn't getting many bites with it listed at 51k so with the 2.7k I saved in sales tax I think it was a reasonable deal.
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Buy a supercharger and enjoy the amazing, high revving, best sounding v8 ever and spank the new turbo m3. That's what I'm doing...
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      01-25-2014, 09:51 PM   #31
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Wow. This thread got real traction. Congrats OP.

Now get off your computer and go drive that car.
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      01-26-2014, 06:15 AM   #32
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Slightly off topic but...

I know the new model is usually superior performance wise. However, in stock form I cannot see how the M3/M4 can compete for the next five years. The jump in performance specs seems minimal compared to the past few generations.
I say keep your car. Maybe this time BMW will not wait five plus years before a model reboot.
This makes no sense. First, the M3/M4 is very popular and would remain so even at current performance levels. Torque is up a whopping 111 foot pounds, the only alleged Achilles heel of the current car. Tech is far better, gas mileage is greatly improved, weight is down, ceramic brakes are an option and the price has stayed the same (which with inflation is a price cut of about 5k over the 65k price in 2008).

This car will be a big hit and will probably outsell the E9x version.
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This makes no sense. First, the M3/M4 is very popular and would remain so even at current performance levels. Torque is up a whopping 111 foot pounds, the only alleged Achilles heel of the current car. Tech is far better, gas mileage is greatly improved, weight is down, ceramic brakes are an option and the price has stayed the same (which with inflation is a price cut of about 5k over the 65k price in 2008).

This car will be a big hit and will probably outsell the E9x version.
I am not doubting the superiority of the new model. Op was asking about trading in his car. I personally do not think the gains are worth the money he is going to lose.
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Buy a supercharger and enjoy the amazing, high revving, best sounding v8 ever and spank the new turbo m3. That's what I'm doing...
1. Let me fix this...because I have supercharged in the past.

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Buy a supercharger and potentially blow your engine, which has very tight bearing and connecting rod clearances, and a host of other very sensitive internals, decrease reliability even further, decrease resale value, decrease your liquidity by reducing your purchasing audience (only that special person wants to buy an already modified engine reducing your ability to sell quickly) , and spend tons of money on power you don't need.
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Depending on where you live, a 40k offer trade in is worth $42,400 in Florida due to sales tax. So if best you can do is 43k private, then trading in some states isn't as bad.
2. Whatever the dealer gives you consider the taxes that you save on the trade in as the total. As mention above ^^^ If you sell it private you will need to make more than this amount, to make it worth the extra hassle of dealing with idiot tire kickers, low ballers, and joy riders instead of an easy clean transaction.

3. Don't do it, the new design is squat and ugly. Our V8 is much more aggressive looking and is naturally aspirated. A collectors dream.

4. If you just have to buy something, buy the new Corvette Z06. That would be worth losing money on, not the same thing in a different package.

5. Most of the above is IMOP...so anyone who gets butt hurt by my comments I will apologize in advance.

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      01-26-2014, 09:05 AM   #35
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Slightly off topic but...

I know the new model is usually superior performance wise. However, in stock form I cannot see how the M3/M4 can compete for the next five years. The jump in performance specs seems minimal compared to the past few generations.
I say keep your car. Maybe this time BMW will not wait five plus years before a model reboot.
Really? The 200lb weight reduction, bigger powerband, and most likely underrated turbo engine aren't big indicators for you? All BMW turbo engines right now are underrated, why expect the S55 to be any different vs the S63 and N54/N55?
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Interesting timing... I just traded in my '11 E93 with 15k miles a couple of hours ago. All the online places were showing 47k trade in value but the dealer offered 44k. After some negotiating I got them to 46k. I wasn't getting many bites with it listed at 51k so with the 2.7k I saved in sales tax I think it was a reasonable deal.
To evaluate a deal someone gets when they buy a car with a trade in, you need (at minimum) two things: What was paid to the dealer for the new car and what the dealer gave for trade in. Part of that info is missing here, so, it's difficult for me to agree with the conclusion.
Generally speaking, the thing also to keep in mind about a dealer and trades is, first, that the dealer has to make his profit on the car he sells you. Second, he has to assume he may have to take your trade to auction and make nothing on it. For most buyers, especially anxious buyers, this is a tough mindset to go up against.
The OP has a very low mileage and a one owner car. These are very valuable qualities in a car and I think the OP should at least try to cash in on them. To me, successfully selling a car is both educational and rewarding.
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1. Let me fix this...because I have supercharged in the past.




2. Whatever the dealer gives you consider the taxes that you save on the trade in as the total. As mention above ^^^ If you sell it private you will need to make more than this amount, to make it worth the extra hassle of dealing with idiot tire kickers, low ballers, and joy riders instead of an easy clean transaction.

3. Don't do it, the new design is squat and ugly. Our V8 is much more aggressive looking and is naturally aspirated. A collectors dream.

4. If you just have to buy something, buy the new Corvette Z06. That would be worth losing money on, not the same thing in a different package.

5. Most of the above is IMOP...so anyone who gets butt hurt by my comments I will apologize in advance.
no need to be butt hurt by useless comments that come from ignorant e9x fanboy who thinks s65 will actually become collectors dream lol
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      01-26-2014, 02:03 PM   #38
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1. Let me fix this...because I have supercharged in the past.




2. Whatever the dealer gives you consider the taxes that you save on the trade in as the total. As mention above ^^^ If you sell it private you will need to make more than this amount, to make it worth the extra hassle of dealing with idiot tire kickers, low ballers, and joy riders instead of an easy clean transaction.

3. Don't do it, the new design is squat and ugly. Our V8 is much more aggressive looking and is naturally aspirated. A collectors dream.

4. If you just have to buy something, buy the new Corvette Z06. That would be worth losing money on, not the same thing in a different package.

5. Most of the above is IMOP...so anyone who gets butt hurt by my comments I will apologize in advance.
I agree with points 2-4 wholeheartedly, but I still want a supercharger.
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They'll offer u below what's it's worth, regardless of your mileage it's a use car.
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I am pretty sure you could sell the car privately very quickly with that low miles and if its maintained well. A dealer would salivating to get his hands on your car for a profit!
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      01-27-2014, 03:29 PM   #41
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This was my thoughts on page 1

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Why should you trade in your current M3 and buy a new one?

Yes, we asked the loaded question of why someone should buy the new M3/M4 and there were a lot of answers but one quote really stuck out to us. It made us feel good about wha the M division is focusing on and we hope it puts your mind at ease some too.

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Its the next step in evolution. Especially if you are keen on this power to weight philosophy. If you want to have a very light car that can do things that the already dynamic and powerful previous generation M3 couldn't. Once you get into it, you will immediately realize this is the next step.
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      01-27-2014, 03:34 PM   #42
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I would enjoy the car. You have super low miles. Generally on a trade, we look at various sources - KBB, Galves, NADA, Blackbook and of course Manheim. PM me and I can always give you an estimate.
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If you put a supercharger you will lose money and still won't have enough power or torque. Sell it privately.
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