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      02-19-2020, 08:16 PM   #45
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Is there more than 1 version? Sport and?
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      02-19-2020, 08:33 PM   #46
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Is there more than 1 version? Sport and?
Yes, for the F80, they have sport and track versions. For some other vehicle lines, the have a third version called urban.
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      02-23-2020, 03:09 PM   #47
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Any other feedback on these?
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      02-28-2020, 08:08 AM   #48
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Imran:

What is the stiffness difference between the sports and track springs?

In the video, I take it the sports springs are being use and have you tried the track springs yet?

If one was to do a few track events a year, worth getting track springs or staying with the sports springs?
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      02-28-2020, 10:26 AM   #49
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What is the stiffness difference between the sports and track springs?

In the video, I take it the sports springs are being use and have you tried the track springs yet?

If one was to do a few track events a year, worth getting track springs or staying with the sports springs?
I will find out. I have never tried them as I am really happy with the way the Sport perform and ride.

All my customers are using the Sport version even those who do track events a few times a year.

Here is one of them in his M2 with the MSS Sport.

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Video review of our F80 M3 which has MSS Sport and the new Bilstein EDC B6 we are developing.

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      03-03-2020, 09:44 AM   #51
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It would be great if you could post a short diy video on how easy the height is to adjust...since that is a great selling point
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      03-10-2020, 09:09 AM   #52
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Imran, appreciate the videos...whats your estimate to have the B6's with MSS springs sorted out? Summer (June-Aug?) Looks like B6 kits here in the states (without any springs - just the dampers) won't be available until early summer (past June for the B6 fronts)...good to know you not rubbing on those 305s out back!

Are you re-valving the B6s or just working on making it more plug and play / easier for the end user? Again thanks so much.
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      03-10-2020, 09:27 AM   #53
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Imran, appreciate the videos...whats your estimate to have the B6's with MSS springs sorted out? Summer (June-Aug?) Looks like B6 kits here in the states (without any springs - just the dampers) won't be available until early summer (past June for the B6 fronts)...good to know you not rubbing on those 305s out back!

Are you re-valving the B6s or just working on making it more plug and play / easier for the end user? Again thanks so much.
Should be ready by June. We are re-valving the Comfort and Sport Plus settings.
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      03-23-2020, 04:07 PM   #54
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What's the price for b6 USD?
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      03-25-2020, 04:28 PM   #55
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What's the advantages of B6 with mss springs?
Are they EDC adjustable? Like kw ddc?
Bilstein damptronic are about $3k.
Are these alot cheaper?
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      03-26-2020, 06:04 AM   #56
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What's the advantages of B6 with mss springs?
Are they EDC adjustable? Like kw ddc?
Bilstein damptronic are about $3k.
Are these alot cheaper?
- The B6 is a better shock, much more stable and less floaty than stock.

- Yes, they're EDC adjustable, using OEM controls, similar to B16 Damptronic coil over system

- No, they're really not that much cheaper after you buy the shocks and springs. I trust Imran is doing a good job matching the valving to the MSS springs, but the B16D kit already does that, although it's very stiff from personal experience.

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      03-26-2020, 03:59 PM   #57
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I've read on the forum that there is clunking noises after springs or HAS kits.
Have you guys experienced this and how do we avoid it?
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      03-27-2020, 06:03 PM   #58
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Anyone install this ?
Honest Feedback ? Really concerned about the noise.
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      04-03-2020, 01:15 AM   #59
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I hope MSS makes a set for us convertible owners!
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      04-05-2020, 12:34 PM   #60
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I've purchased this, and installed yesterday.

Ride- Noticeably different (Improved in all modes).

Install- It's not a difficult install but the manufactures install instructions were not sufficient. This is a unique spring system, so they need to update their website to answer common questions, friction points. In the meantime, the recent video of Evolve doing multiple mods to the British Green F80 will be the best source to installing these given is shows the installer putting the system together prior to install with the production run version of the spring system. There was an update when Imran installed the other set vs the production run. Example, adjuster is at bottom versus top when Evolve installed on "Vyper"

Ride Height- This is another topic that I need assistance on. The instructions speak to ensuring that the rear height needs to be a 5mm difference (increase) from fender to center hub versus the front measurement. Well, how do you adjust to get that? Quarter, half, full turn adjustment measurements would help as a reference.

Question- Imran, what was the difference in adjusters settings when you installed the spring set? I'm running the same offset and tire sizes as your Vyper.

I think this will be the best mod on the market in terms of springs... other than doing complete coil overs. Once the B6's that are compatible with this system release, I will be installing those also.

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      04-19-2020, 11:51 AM   #61
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Ordered and received the MSS sport within two days from IND(searched for a vendor that had it in stock and would ship right away). I have been in contact with MSS about the product and any question that I’ve had, they respond pretty quick.

Yesterday it was installed and it went pretty smooth. My buddy isn’t a bmw expert so it took longer than expected but it all went well. Watched the YT vid mss has so it gave us a great guide on how to do it. Wish they did a in-depth one( would be super helpful).
Front I did half so 15mm and the rear is 20mm(the 5 higher). Isn’t aggressive at all which is what I wanted. Waiting for it to settle some more before deciding to drop more or not. The ride home felt amazing.
Will update once I put more miles on it.
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      04-19-2020, 01:37 PM   #62
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Would modified bump stops be a good idea?
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      04-25-2020, 08:50 PM   #63
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How is the ride of these when going around a corner and hitting a big dip. Im currently fully stock non-zcp suspension with CS EDC coding and I still feel on a flat corner with high speed the tyres seem to stick but it feels as if the body of the car wants to pull away from the corner. Also when hitting a big dip mid corner the car bounces and wants to pull outwards to the opposite direction of the corner. Would you say MSS kit reduces these aspect quite severely or would these only be solved by running different sway bars and full coilover set?
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Ordered and received the MSS sport within two days from IND(searched for a vendor that had it in stock and would ship right away). I have been in contact with MSS about the product and any question that I’ve had, they respond pretty quick.

Yesterday it was installed and it went pretty smooth. My buddy isn’t a bmw expert so it took longer than expected but it all went well. Watched the YT vid mss has so it gave us a great guide on how to do it. Wish they did a in-depth one( would be super helpful).
Front I did half so 15mm and the rear is 20mm(the 5 higher). Isn’t aggressive at all which is what I wanted. Waiting for it to settle some more before deciding to drop more or not. The ride home felt amazing.
Will update once I put more miles on it.
Any updates? Thanks!
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Any updates? Thanks!
Drove a few more times. No noises or any issues. Ride is great, I feel that it takes a pothole better. Wife doesn’t even realize any changes in ride which I take as very good! So far A+ product
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This is most likely my next mod to the car. This kit looks great.
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