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      12-09-2018, 01:24 PM   #1
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Drove both an M3 and M4, and the M4 had a noticeably harsher ride

I test drove both and the M4 seemed much harsher than the M3. Is there any reason for this or is it all in my head? Both were ZCP with the 666m wheels set on comfort mode.
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      12-09-2018, 01:29 PM   #2
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Perhaps is the weight of vehicles 2doors vs. 4 doors?
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      12-09-2018, 01:44 PM   #3
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I vote for in your head but maybe someone else has a better explanation.
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+1 for overinflated tires on the 82
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Perhaps is the weight of vehicles 2doors vs. 4 doors?
I don't think 30-80LBs is going to make that much a difference in what he's describing.
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More rigid ride maybe?
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M3 and M4's driving dynamics are virtually identical (for the same specs). Chances are, either its in your head, or tire pressures were significantly different between the cars.
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Tire pressures and/or condition.
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Tire pressure variance.
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Definitely in your head
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I agree it's strange but with the M4 I told myself this won't be fun to drive in Ng but the M3 seemed okay. Perhaps I need to drive it again
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Tire pressure. BMW recommends 32psi all around for ZCP cars. I tried running 38psi and the ride went from good to unbearable.
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Tire pressure guaranteed.

Even 2-3 psi makes a big difference. I find the ZCP cars to be intolerable with anything more than ~30psi cold.
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If memory serves me well, the sedan and coupe have different springs, rear I believe...
When you're ordering replacement or upgraded springs it is necessary to specify which
model you have, I ran into this with Eibach's
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If memory serves me well, the sedan and coupe have different springs, rear I believe...
When you're ordering replacement or upgraded springs it is necessary to specify which
model you have, I ran into this with Eibach's
Pretty confident the difference in aftermarket spring offerings between M3 and M4 is the rear drop is usually different between the two due to the fenders on the M3 making the car look like it's broken by covering too much of the tire when trying to lower it as much as the rear of the M4.
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If it’s harsher ride in terms of you can feel every pebble and small crack that’s tire pressure. If it’s harsh on bigger bumps it may also be because they didn’t take out the shipping blocks in the F82.
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Because the m3 is a taxi
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