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      10-03-2022, 07:11 PM   #1409
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& let's not forget that most people, myself included, will NOT be ordering Z07 or carbon wheels, forget about BOTH. Most of the production Z will be heavier and around 4k lbs with driver. So what does your base spoiler, no Z07, no carbon wheels Z run? Those numbers need to be seen too, not just top of the line all the options.
we probably wont see those numbers. because i dont think most of those people care. porsche isn't going to send a gt3 touring with steel brakes and sofa seats to a magazine for track testing... they're going to send the one with the big spoiler, ceramics and lightweight buckets.
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      10-03-2022, 08:56 PM   #1410
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A newer, cheaper, American built 458 made in 2022. F*ck yah
I don't know that a copy of a retired car from years ago is exactly a compliment LOL. Technology and cars have moved on a lot since the 458 debuted
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A few pics from Petit LeMans.
I finally saw Red Mist in person a few weeks ago & confirmed that I am still picking that color for mine after being set on AO...until I saw that in person. AO looks washed out. Orange is my favorite color so I surprised myself with passing on it. Bring back Sebring Orange or Atomic Orange! I loved the AO on my C6Z
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A bit pity that it is not available in Verde Mantis or similar. A screaming bright color would distract from the somewhat 'plain Jane' Ferrari knockoff look of the Z06. But otherwise a great car!!
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A bit pity that it is not available in Verde Mantis or similar. A screaming bright color would distract from the somewhat 'plain Jane' Ferrari knockoff look of the Z06. But otherwise a great car!!
Agree. GM drops the ball again
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      10-03-2022, 10:16 PM   #1415
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the z06 was never going to be taking on the F8 or 720s. its a newer 458 with a warranty.
I've driven a 458, so to me, this is a beautiful thing.

Well done, GM, well done
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      10-04-2022, 12:59 AM   #1416
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I've driven a 458, so to me, this is a beautiful thing.

Well done, GM, well done
i agree. had one for 3 years.

NA > turbo. i'd take a z06 over any turbo exotic.

if they gave the z06 a manual i would definitely think about listing my gt3 for sale haha.
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A bit pity that it is not available in Verde Mantis or similar. A screaming bright color would distract from the somewhat 'plain Jane' Ferrari knockoff look of the Z06. But otherwise a great car!!
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Agree. GM drops the ball again
Anyone that wants a screaming bright color can just wrap the car.
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      10-04-2022, 01:43 AM   #1418
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pts color options would slow down the production line too much. the c8 isn't going to be some low production car.
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Given the weight and the small torque number, this car is starting to really impress lol.

And the videos only came out yesterday with more to come.

So this rare unicorn that everyone wants, that's going to be desired and price in exotic territory, has only elevated itself even more with these videos that came out lol.

Man what a time to be a corvette fan! And it's only the 2nd variant!
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i agree. had one for 3 years.

NA > turbo. i'd take a z06 over any turbo exotic.

if they gave the z06 a manual i would definitely think about listing my gt3 for sale haha.
So I really like the GT3 but even with the mark-ups on the Z06 not sure they are comparable. Since last I hear Gt3 are being marketed up $100k? if I could get a new GT3 for 200-225k I think that is for sure my next car.

when I start hitting $300k hard to not want to go Italian. At least once.
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So I really like the GT3 but even with the mark-ups on the Z06 not sure they are comparable. Since last I hear Gt3 are being marketed up $100k? if I could get a new GT3 for 200-225k I think that is for sure my next car.

when I start hitting $300k hard to not want to go Italian. At least once.
yeah i dont see the value either paying 300k for a new gt3 when its not all that different from the 991.2. same engine, same weight. all they did was add double wishbones and a spoiler with cup2r tires. none of that can be felt on the street.

just depends on if you want manual or not. if you do then porsche is the only option for a supercar. everyone else is paddles.

i think prices will eventually settle down but it will be a while.
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yeah i dont see the value either paying 300k for a new gt3 when its not all that different from the 991.2. same engine, same weight. all they did was add double wishbones and a spoiler with cup2r tires. none of that can be felt on the street.

just depends on if you want manual or not. if you do then porsche is the only option for a supercar. everyone else is paddles.

i think prices will eventually settle down but it will be a while.
I go back and forth on it. I like a manual for driving around but on the flip side the pdk in the 992 is incredible and I’ll keep my c7 z06 vette for the street.

Also as I look at adding a new car in another 5-6 years (more investments to make first to play for long term) I think I’d like to get into track days. My goal is to retire at 55 or so (maybe sooner) with the extra time the track days would be fun and the auto might be the way to go.

either way I’d struggle to pay 100k mark-up on the GT3. It just seems like you ar begging to end up in a bad way on the car. And once it hits Italian level pricing it’s hard not to want to look at it.
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we probably wont see those numbers. because i dont think most of those people care. porsche isn't going to send a gt3 touring with steel brakes and sofa seats to a magazine for track testing... they're going to send the one with the big spoiler, ceramics and lightweight buckets.
Hopefully, we get to at least see them from the people that buy them then
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I go back and forth on it. I like a manual for driving around but on the flip side the pdk in the 992 is incredible and I’ll keep my c7 z06 vette for the street.

Also as I look at adding a new car in another 5-6 years (more investments to make first to play for long term) I think I’d like to get into track days. My goal is to retire at 55 or so (maybe sooner) with the extra time the track days would be fun and the auto might be the way to go.

either way I’d struggle to pay 100k mark-up on the GT3. It just seems like you ar begging to end up in a bad way on the car. And once it hits Italian level pricing it’s hard not to want to look at it.
Care to share the investments? The rest of us want to play with all these cars too lol
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Anyone that wants a screaming bright color can just wrap the car.
Nice, you missed the point
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      10-04-2022, 04:38 PM   #1428
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Care to share the investments? The rest of us want to play with all these cars too lol
Nothing crazy. just real estate. All I’m doing is taking a portion of my income to buy real estate and replace w2 wages long term. Over the years it builds and in 5-6 years I’ll be in the spot I can get a fun car again (z06 was my gift to myself 2 years ago). And then by 54-57 retire.

Not exactly a complicated plan I just don’t want to have to do my job for the rest of my life. So far it pays for the mortgage, the cars, and some spending cash. But the intent is to just replace my w2 with it and like all investments it starts to snowball.

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Braking & skid pad, off the top of my head, are very similar to the C7Z. That's what my point was. Nothing about other makes or the below times I said we already knew way before the embargo was lifted

We already knew the car was going to run 10.6 (and that's normally a conservative number given GMs history) so no surprise there nor is that new news. We also already knew the 0-60
Absolute braking and skidpad numbers for the C8 across the board have been worse than the C7 trim for trim yet its significantly quicker in any sort of dynamic setting. This won't be any different.

In MT's Figure 8 test, their C8Z convertible with base tires and suspension(weighing in at almost 3,800lb) ran a 22.7 while the C7 Z06/Z07 auto with Cup2's and Level 3 aero ran a 22.6.

This car will disappear from an equally equipped C7Z in any sort of track setting.
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Care to share the investments? The rest of us want to play with all these cars too lol
Nothing crazy. just real estate. All I'm doing is taking a portion of my income to buy real estate and replace w2 wages long term. Over the years it builds and in 5-6 years I'll be in the spot I can get a fun car again (z06 was my gift to myself 2 years ago). And then by 54-57 retire.

Not exactly a complicated plan I just don't want to have to do my job for the rest of my life. So far it pays for the mortgage, the cars, and some spending cash. But the intent is to just replace my w2 with it and like all investments it starts to snowball.
Amen brother. We are on the same page. I have 11 rentals. I'm on the good side now which is great. Sucks early on but just need to stick with it.
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