Comparison: F82 M4 versus E92 M3 Coupe (updated with real life pics)

24601 · 02-26-2014, 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by MTROUBLE93

so many e92 haters.. Smh

LOL! Seriously! What's up with that!?!

Danyutz · 02-26-2014, 04:00 AM

My choice goes to M4, M3 looks simply outdated when near the M4. The front/rear bumper design that some call "ricey" or "uninspiring" - they are pure examples of organic design combined with functionality for aerodynamics and efficiency.

N.S.A · 02-26-2014, 04:27 AM

I think this is a bad comparison due to the fact that the m4 is Austin yellow and the m3 is space gray. The Austin Yellow is too attractive so it makes the m4 look better the m3 because of that. But Even with those disadvantages of the m3 the M3 still looks great and in some angles I PREFER the m3 over the m4 specially from driver door to the back of the m4( that part is too long).

A better fair comparison would be a fire orange exterior m3, I bet that one would look better than the m4.

georgere · 02-26-2014, 08:05 AM

Ok, I have been criticizing BMW lately and interesting part I m at a dealer right now for oil change and just checked out e92 m3 and 4 series m sport they have side by side here. If I was in the market right now, I would choose 4 series m sport based on looks. Yes, it looks better in flesh than pictures, and level of details is way greater than in e9x cars. I am positive as new m3/4 are released they will be very successful.
P.s. I take my previous critique of f32 back BMW, but don't think you can get away easy with next generation of cars. We need fresh design not evolution please.

dmk08 · 02-26-2014, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by MTROUBLE93

so many e92 haters.. Smh

Quote:

Originally Posted by 24601

LOL! Seriously! What's up with that!?!

I just think the new one looks better and the old one is starting to look dated. I owned one for a long time. I guess if that makes me a hater I am one.

dhirm5 · 02-26-2014, 09:39 AM

F82 looks fantastic.

karussell · 02-26-2014, 10:05 AM

add the e46 m3 to this! hell add them all!
i actually want to compare this car more to the e46 m3 as that is the M3 that was most dear to me.

kmarei · 02-26-2014, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Bangle and his team were actually responsible for some very sharp looking BMW's, including the E92 that you claim has "aged very well". We used to have some intense discussions about Bangle; the most vocal detractors were unaware that they were driving a car that he and his team designed.

"

true
but he was also responsible for the E60, E63, and the E65

probably the ugliest BMWs ever made
I have no doubt with the 3 series, the board told him to go easy on it, since it's their biggest money maker
so they can't afford to take risks with it

Sedan_Clan · 02-26-2014, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by kmarei

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Bangle and his team were actually responsible for some very sharp looking BMW's, including the E92 that you claim has "aged very well". We used to have some intense discussions about Bangle; the most vocal detractors were unaware that they were driving a car that he and his team designed.

"

true
but he was also responsible for the E60, E63, and the E65

probably the ugliest BMWs ever made
I have no doubt with the 3 series, the board told him to go easy on it, since it's their biggest money maker
so they can't afford to take risks with it

I happened to like the E60 though. I much prefer it to the E39 and the F10.

The E63 wasn't to my tastes, but I sure like its design better than the current 6. The LCI 7 looks good to me.

btbossman · 02-26-2014, 11:24 AM

F80!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GTM_Challenge · 02-26-2014, 01:30 PM

That 400+ TQ is going to make the car MOVE.

Can't wait!

imserious · 02-26-2014, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by R N M

Exterior: E92 > F82
E46 M3 is still the best looking by far.

Interior: M4 is much better obviously than any previous //M3.

+1

justinco · 02-26-2014, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason

Here is the F80 vs E90 M3 comparison:

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=925298

You can find various comparisons under the homepage category "vs." - http://www.bimmerpost.com/vs/

Awesome, thanks!

wuzupfoo · 02-26-2014, 02:35 PM

The new 3/4 series finally makes sense after seeing the m-sport version and obviously the M versions...

This iteration to me is very much like the E60 5 series... its very awkward and weird without the aggressive bumpers. I hated the standard 5's but the M5 made me understand where the design team was going with it... same with the new 3/4...

Do I think its a beautiful design.. not really but I can definitely appreciate what the designers were trying to do. And just like the previous M5 the new M3 and M4 will grow on me but is it a "I must sell my M3 right now so I can pre-order my M3/4"... no.. definitely not.

When I saw the M3 in 2008, I knew I had to have it, this car doesn't quite do that to me.

Though funny thing is Im actually really in love with the M235i.. styling wise, even though I thought it was a travesty to put an M in front of that car's name.

mpower3330 · 02-26-2014, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wuzupfoo

The new 3/4 series finally makes sense after seeing the m-sport version and obviously the M versions...

This iteration to me is very much like the E60 5 series... its very awkward and weird without the aggressive bumpers. I hated the standard 5's but the M5 made me understand where the design team was going with it... same with the new 3/4...

Do I think its a beautiful design.. not really but I can definitely appreciate what the designers were trying to do. And just like the previous M5 the new M3 and M4 will grow on me but is it a "I must sell my M3 right now so I can pre-order my M3/4"... no.. definitely not.

When I saw the M3 in 2008, I knew I had to have it, this car doesn't quite do that to me.

Though funny thing is Im actually really in love with the M235i.. styling wise, even though I thought it was a travesty to put an M in front of that car's name.

M235i looks great in person and the interior is very nice as well. Only negative is the rear tail light design. Looks hideous from dead-on. But that's just my opinion.

Grock · 02-26-2014, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by kmarei

true
but he was also responsible for the E60, E63, and the E65

probably the ugliest BMWs ever made
I have no doubt with the 3 series, the board told him to go easy on it, since it's their biggest money maker
so they can't afford to take risks with it

I say US 1-series cars are the ugliest.

imserious · 02-26-2014, 06:39 PM

Also:
exterior F80 > E90
exterior F82 render > E92 > F82 actual

Go figure.

Alpine F31 · 02-26-2014, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Grock

I say US 1-series cars are the ugliest.

The US 1 series is the second ugliest. The 5 series GT is THE ugliest.

Back on topic....The F82 is beautiful!!!!!!!!!

Jockey · 02-26-2014, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Grock

I say US 1-series cars are the ugliest.

And I call shenanigans!

WWM3 · 02-26-2014, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmarei

Other than the time spent designing those hideous front and rear bumpers on the new model

The designers didn't spend very much time doing anything else
What's with the mish mash of lines and curves that don't meet correctly or flow?
Both bumpers looks ricey, compared to the sleek lines of the e92 bumpers
To me it's like someone who's trying too hard to make it different
Not someone who's trying to design a nice clean shape

I think the e92 shape has aged very well
Doesn't look old, and still looks good
To me the new model looks a little Japanese
I.e. Overdone and in your face type styling
Can't believe we get this shit after the bangle years
Thought we'd already paid our dues in that respect

Bangle and his team were actually responsible for some very sharp looking BMW's, including the E92 that you claim has "aged very well". We used to have some intense discussions about Bangle; the most vocal detractors were unaware that they were driving a car that he and his team designed.

"

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He became the first American chief of design of BMW on October 1, 1992, where he designed the Z9 Gran Turismo concept car.

Bangle's designs are incorporated in the entire BMW lineup, including the 1, 3, 5, 6 and 7 series as well as the X3, X5, and X6 the newest design SUVs, and the concept car Gina. These span the automotive platforms E81 / E82 / E87 / E88, E90 / E91 / E92 / E93, E60 / E61, E63 / E64, E65 / E66 and E53. During the Bangle era, BMW overtook Mercedes as the global leader in premium car sales.

He introduced a new BMW concept car, called GINA on June 10, 2008.

On February 3, 2009, Bangle announced that he was to quit both his position at BMW and the auto industry altogether, to focus on his own design-related endeavours.[3] He was replaced by Adrian van Hooydonk.[4][5]

+1. I personally enjoyed the Bangle era. At least each model (1,3,,etc.) looked different instead of this Audi-inspired every model has the same design language BS.

Isn't it interesting how that iDrive and the Bangle era designs were so controversial at the time, yet they were incredibly influential and forward thinking? BMW deserves a lot of credit for their boldness and pushing the envelope during that era. I think they have played it a little too safe recently.

Jay-K · 02-26-2014, 08:13 PM

wow nice detailed information, thanks!

FogCityM3 · 02-26-2014, 10:29 PM

Agree, Bangle was way ahead of his time....just took the rest of the world to catch up. Bangle designs were huge influences on car designers globally.

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Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Bangle and his team were actually responsible for some very sharp looking BMW's, including the E92 that you claim has "aged very well". We used to have some intense discussions about Bangle; the most vocal detractors were unaware that they were driving a car that he and his team designed.

"

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georgere Lieutenant Colonel 593 Rep 1,935 Posts Drives: 2016 M3 BSM Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Stamford CT iTrader: (1)	Ok, I have been criticizing BMW lately and interesting part I m at a dealer right now for oil change and just checked out e92 m3 and 4 series m sport they have side by side here. If I was in the market right now, I would choose 4 series m sport based on looks. Yes, it looks better in flesh than pictures, and level of details is way greater than in e9x cars. I am positive as new m3/4 are released they will be very successful. P.s. I take my previous critique of f32 back BMW, but don't think you can get away easy with next generation of cars. We need fresh design not evolution please. __________________ My 1st love was 2006 BMW 325i Sport + Prem 6MT but I married the 2016 M3 BSM MDCT.
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wuzupfoo Lieutenant 58 Rep 424 Posts Drives: E92 M3; G30 540i Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Mean streets of Irvine iTrader: (3)	The new 3/4 series finally makes sense after seeing the m-sport version and obviously the M versions... This iteration to me is very much like the E60 5 series... its very awkward and weird without the aggressive bumpers. I hated the standard 5's but the M5 made me understand where the design team was going with it... same with the new 3/4... Do I think its a beautiful design.. not really but I can definitely appreciate what the designers were trying to do. And just like the previous M5 the new M3 and M4 will grow on me but is it a "I must sell my M3 right now so I can pre-order my M3/4"... no.. definitely not. When I saw the M3 in 2008, I knew I had to have it, this car doesn't quite do that to me. Though funny thing is Im actually really in love with the M235i.. styling wise, even though I thought it was a travesty to put an M in front of that car's name.
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