Mo Reviews
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Today's Posts

Go Back   BMW M3 and BMW M4 Forum > BMW F80 M3 / F82 M4 Technical Topics > Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust / Bolt-ons / Tuning

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      05-09-2016, 05:20 PM   #1
nuts7979
Private
14
Rep
54
Posts

Drives: 2016 F80 MW Manual
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: NJ

iTrader: (0)

F80 (2016) 6MT Clutch issues

I picked up my f80 2016 at 35 miles and it nows has about 550 miles. Since about 200 mile point, I noticed the 'grinding feeling' during the pressing of the clutch. (I do not make the shift unless the clutch is fully pressed, so there is no way that I actually made mistakes in shifting)

The 'grinding feeling' makes no noise whatsoever, it is just the feels I get from my left foot. It usually happens in lower gears (1st, 2nd, and 3rd). But today I noticed that it also does that when the car is at rest with the engine running. I was going to bring it to the dealer, but since it happens intermittently I decided to wait a bit until my break-in service.

Anyone here had the same issue with their 6MT?
If you have other issues with your 6MT, what are they?

Thanks guys!
Appreciate 0
      05-09-2016, 05:49 PM   #2
rubber_ducky
Colonel
rubber_ducky's Avatar
386
Rep
2,989
Posts

Drives: roach coach
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: boston-ish

iTrader: (21)

I have 7k on my '15 6MT M3 and I have not experienced the feeling that you're describing. Something is definitely amiss.
Appreciate 0
      05-09-2016, 05:57 PM   #3
Mike@N54Tuning.com
Joint Chiefs of Staff
Canada
4908
Rep
115,980
Posts

Drives: 2007 335i, 2015 M3
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: N54tuning.com

iTrader: (89)

Quote:
Originally Posted by rubber_ducky View Post
I have 7k on my '15 6MT M3 and I have not experienced the feeling that you're describing. Something is definitely amiss.
+1

Sounds like it needs to go to the dealer..

Mike
Appreciate 0
      05-09-2016, 09:58 PM   #4
16M4
Colonel
16M4's Avatar
United_States
131
Rep
2,978
Posts

Drives: 2016 SO M4
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Broomfiled, CO

iTrader: (5)

Sounds like my issue here. Maybe it is normal like they said:

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1256215
Appreciate 1
      05-09-2016, 10:30 PM   #5
nuts7979
Private
14
Rep
54
Posts

Drives: 2016 F80 MW Manual
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: NJ

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfred View Post
Sounds like my issue here. Maybe it is normal like they said:

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1256215
I think my case is a bit different from yours in which mine does not actually make sound. I can 'feel' the grinding through my left foot during the pressing of the clutch, no actual sound is present there.

However, there's one thing that caught my attention. My car also does this when the car is fully warmed up. This is weird as my previous car (Audi S5 manual V8) also behaved similar. With Audi S5, I went through the process of replacing the whole transmission, flywheels and stuff, but the issue reappeared again. FYI, no car makers just go ahead replace your transmission. They go through transmission fluid check to see the metal amounts. If the number appears abnormal then they have to report it to the headquarter and wait for the approval of the parts. As you know replacing transmission is a huge job and costs so much money. The whole process took about 2 weeks, and it happened after I had my S5 for about 5-6 months (at less than 1000 miles).

It's frustrating because I'm experiencing the very same thing all over again with my new 2016 M3.
Appreciate 0
      05-10-2016, 06:38 AM   #6
16M4
Colonel
16M4's Avatar
United_States
131
Rep
2,978
Posts

Drives: 2016 SO M4
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Broomfiled, CO

iTrader: (5)

I feel the vibration on the clutch pedal as well as the shifter. It's annoying that BMW thinks it's normal
Appreciate 0
      05-10-2016, 11:50 AM   #7
MyFragileHalogen
Captain
449
Rep
992
Posts

Drives: '16 M4 6MT
Join Date: May 2013
Location: OR

iTrader: (0)

When I release the clutch after shifting into neutral for stop, often I get grinding feeling on my left foot as well as hear some sound. Beginning to notice it after 9500 miles.
Appreciate 0
      05-10-2016, 11:53 AM   #8
Gabe@TAG
Banned
731
Rep
901
Posts

Drives: F80 M3 6MT
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Vista, CA

iTrader: (0)

37,000 miles on mine, no grinding to report.
Appreciate 0
      05-10-2016, 01:35 PM   #9
16M4
Colonel
16M4's Avatar
United_States
131
Rep
2,978
Posts

Drives: 2016 SO M4
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Broomfiled, CO

iTrader: (5)

I think it's about 10/90 with people having this grinding transmission issue vs not having the issue. I wish I was in the 90% group
Appreciate 0
      05-12-2016, 12:00 PM   #10
nuts7979
Private
14
Rep
54
Posts

Drives: 2016 F80 MW Manual
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: NJ

iTrader: (0)

I noticed that it happens more apparently with eco mode. The sport and sport plus does this less frequently. Damn, it bugs me a lot...
Appreciate 0
      05-12-2016, 01:12 PM   #11
16M4
Colonel
16M4's Avatar
United_States
131
Rep
2,978
Posts

Drives: 2016 SO M4
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Broomfiled, CO

iTrader: (5)

That's odd. Mine does it in sports plus and sports sometimes
Appreciate 0
      06-14-2016, 10:50 PM   #12
mitch32
First Lieutenant
126
Rep
316
Posts

Drives: F82 ZCP
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Michigan

iTrader: (3)

I have exactly same issue since I picked it up and now I have about 400 miles (only have the car a week). Did you find anything from the dealer? I also have a notchy 3rd gear but I'm hoping after the breakin and tranny flush that goes away.
Appreciate 0
      06-15-2016, 09:26 AM   #13
JoeFromPA
Colonel
1795
Rep
2,997
Posts

Drives: '15 AW M3 6MT Stripper
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: SE PA

iTrader: (0)

So you've got to ask yourself what can cause a grinding - which is really an uneven friction - during clutch pedal movement, and without creating an audible sound and without driveability impact. Here are your options:

1. A bad clutch pedal spring or install
2. An improperly installed or aligned or bent clutch fork (extremely unlikely)
3. A bad throwout bearing - almost always causes noise
4. An uneven flywheel or clutch surface - could happen in a way that creates no noise or driveability issues but creates a light grinding when mating during clutch engagement.

I think that's it. Most likely it's simply a problem with the clutch pedal/spring itself given the lack of noise.
Appreciate 1
      06-15-2016, 11:15 AM   #14
nuts7979
Private
14
Rep
54
Posts

Drives: 2016 F80 MW Manual
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: NJ

iTrader: (0)

I received the break-in service at 1100 miles, and the clutch doesn't give me that grinding feeling so much. It still happens but it's apparently less than it was used to.

I have other issues such as tin can noise from beneath the car and shifting is so rigid. So I'll have them take a look this weekend.
Appreciate 0
      03-10-2019, 12:35 PM   #15
icebiker
Lieutenant
icebiker's Avatar
504
Rep
429
Posts

Drives: 2016 F83 6MT
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: New Jersey

iTrader: (0)

Hi, new here. Recently joined the ranks of BMW ownership and have already found his forum to be a wealth of information. Helped me with a number of questions already just by searching. I hope to contribute myself once I get more familiar with my car.

Realize this is an old thread but after a fair amount of searching it's the closest I can find to my question. I just picked up a CPO 2016 M4 with 14k miles. Drives beautifully. However, i notice a slight "grittiness" to the clutch pedal when depressing it. My past MT cars (NIssan, Subaru, Volvo, Mazda) all had smooth clutch pedal feels (my Xterra is 108k miles now and clutch feel is still like silk).

The OP describes his issue as a "grinding" feel. This is not the adjective I'd use to describe my issue. For those of you that are mountain bikers, feels like an old dirty shifter cable, hence my use of "gritty" to describe it.

The M otherwise behaves wonderfully. No problem shifting, no odd transmission noises or difficulty putting the power down. I can certainly live with the clutch feel, but wanted to know from other M4 owners if they have noticed the same thing.

Thanks in advance!
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
#6mt #f806mt #clutch


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:07 AM.




f80post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST