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      03-31-2021, 09:01 AM   #419
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Going to be listing my 2018 Alpine white M3 6 Speed Comp soon. only 3686 miles. Clean carfax, never tuned or tracked. What do you guys think i should list it for. PPF on the front of the car. All maintance done at the dealer. Mods by Autocouture. RW front lip and spliters, Sterckenn rear carbon spoiler, Kw has kit with spacers, AA mid pipe. Can be put back to 100% stock.
Depends on the other packages but overall, but I wouldn't accept a dollar under 60k. With such low mileage and 6 speed, there's bound to be someone willing to pay over market value for it. Start at 65k and see where that gets you?

If you do decide to put it back to stock, let me know as I'd be interested in the Sterckenn spoiler
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      03-31-2021, 11:00 AM   #420
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It's just how the market is at present with the older M's. Due to Covid. Even though it seem like a lot of people are buying cars. They are not selling anywhere close to the norm. So they will start out as high as they can to make the most profit for specialty cars. Also due to the new line up not too favorable because of its looks, etc, etc, so used M's are holding value or even getting higher.

This particular one was not hard either. The car was for whatever reason was sitting on their lot for almost 3 months even though its CPOed, tinted, had ceramic coat . Maybe the 69k price tag scared everyone else from the get go.
I just told them I have to get the absolute lowest they can for me to take it home and maybe it was just the right time for it to be moved.

But here are some pointers that I have learned base on my experiences buying cars so hopefully you have some advantage in your favor.

A) Before you go in or even make contact make sure you are ready to buy or lease only at the price you want to pay. Let them know about it so everyone knows no one is trying to waste time.

B) Before A, research and make sure it is the car you want. I actually do my test drives from dealers I most likely won't buy from. Know the price you want to pay before you go in. A price you know for certain you will be happy with. If it is unrealistic you will know because no one will sell it to you no matter what.

C) Dealers will always find a way to make money so don't feel bad about anything.

D) Don't go in HOT. Just be cool and know that dealerships are there to make money, nothing is personal. Try to be in their good side. Let them know you will give them good reviews and spread the word if they treat you right. But at the same time be ready to walk out if you feel they are not treating you right no matter how much you want the car.

E) Contact at least a few dealers that have the cars you want in stock and via in writing be up front and let them know ahead of time what you expect for them to sell you the car. This way you can also feel the market and how they react.

F) Before Covid, I used to go in at last few days of the month on a Saturday or Sunday. A few hours before closing because everyone wants to go home and will expedite the twiddling of thumbs and get you to the deal faster.
But with this covid situation most of the deals happen even before you step in the dealership. My last few deals was just that. I just went in to sign papers. One time they even had to bring me the papers because they kept me waiting too long for finance so I walked out and said if you want me to buy it you can bring me the papers and the car to my home. A few minutes while in my car driving home a sales manager calls and was apologetic and did what I wanted, anyway...

G) If you have a particular car with a particular color and particular options that you are stuck with you most likely have to pay for it. What I mean is if you are going in with a little more flexibility it will most likely be in your favor.

H) When in finance, just say NO to all the other stuff they are selling.

I) It really comes down to survival of the fittest . What I mean is they will tire you out if they can. So make sure you eat your banana before you start and be ready for the long haul if you have to.
Funny it seems like the market is starting to correct around here. Lots of reduced prices on Autotrader just this week. Some decent 16 F80 Manuals for around $45k. Luckily for me I dont want comp pack nor do I want the 18 headlights.
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      03-31-2021, 11:26 AM   #421
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On the flip side I just sold mine to Carvana:

Year: 2015
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Color combo: Mineral White/ Sakir leather
options: Executive, cameras, etc.
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After selling off various parts I netted $40K. Not bad for a 2015 and not having to deal with tire kickers. They offered $32K back in October.
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      04-01-2021, 07:15 AM   #422
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Depends on the other packages but overall, but I wouldn't accept a dollar under 60k. With such low mileage and 6 speed, there's bound to be someone willing to pay over market value for it. Start at 65k and see where that gets you?

If you do decide to put it back to stock, let me know as I'd be interested in the Sterckenn spoiler
Yeah Im gonna put her up at $68k and take the best offer. see what happens. lol
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      04-01-2021, 01:42 PM   #423
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Straight up. Lease ended June but they took it off my hands and I pocketed the difference.
Wow Great price then, especially from a dealer. I got an offer from Carmax for an identical build and it was $51K back in October.
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Straight up. Lease ended June but they took it off my hands and I pocketed the difference.
Wow Great price then, especially from a dealer. I got an offer from Carmax for an identical build and it was $51K back in October.
That's exactly what carmax offered me, $51k
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Looking at either a 2018 M3 or 2018-2020 M4 in YMB or white. Found a couple nice cars both in white, loaded out DCT cars. First car is a 2019 M4 CPO 14k miles. Factory warranty is good till 8/23 with CPO adding another year on that. Dealer has it priced at $67k. Second car is 2018 M3 CPO with only 9.6k mi. Factory warranty good though 2/22 then CPO kicks in. Dealer has it priced at $64k. First car is out of state where I would have to fly down to see it in person. Sales Rep did send me a few grainy videos but she also pointed out a few rock chips on the bumper. Second car is about a 4 hour drive one way to see. Sales rep of course sez it is flawless.

I know it is not a fair comparison as one is a coupe and the other a sedan.. I like that the 19 M4 has more warranty left and is a newer year model. But I would have to fly down to see that car. I like that the 18 M3 has super low miles and I would not have to fly to see it. But the warranty is is one less year compared to the M4.

Not new to BMW's but this will be my first M car. Thoughts/ suggestions on those 2 cars and their price points being CPO cars?
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      04-05-2021, 03:02 AM   #426
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      04-05-2021, 05:44 AM   #427
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Looking at either a 2018 M3 or 2018-2020 M4 in YMB or white. Found a couple nice cars both in white, loaded out DCT cars. First car is a 2019 M4 CPO 14k miles. Factory warranty is good till 8/23 with CPO adding another year on that. Dealer has it priced at $67k. Second car is 2018 M3 CPO with only 9.6k mi. Factory warranty good though 2/22 then CPO kicks in. Dealer has it priced at $64k. First car is out of state where I would have to fly down to see it in person. Sales Rep did send me a few grainy videos but she also pointed out a few rock chips on the bumper. Second car is about a 4 hour drive one way to see. Sales rep of course sez it is flawless.

I know it is not a fair comparison as one is a coupe and the other a sedan.. I like that the 19 M4 has more warranty left and is a newer year model. But I would have to fly down to see that car. I like that the 18 M3 has super low miles and I would not have to fly to see it. But the warranty is is one less year compared to the M4.

Not new to BMW's but this will be my first M car. Thoughts/ suggestions on those 2 cars and their price points being CPO cars?
I would look at the M3 if the body style makes you happy. 2018 is last yr for M3 so you canít get any newer than that. At 64k you can probably ask a few thousand less and/or add your savings to extend warranty.
Be detailed about what the loaded out options are they vary a lot. Ask for the original sticker to see options or search via VIN. Asked for close up photos and request for detailed shots of any imperfections. Even four hours is still far to pick up a car and you donít want to feel pressured buying it because you already drove that far. Good luck!
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I would look at the M3 if the body style makes you happy. 2018 is last yr for M3 so you canít get any newer than that. At 64k you can probably ask a few thousand less and/or add your savings to extend warranty.
Be detailed about what the loaded out options are they vary a lot. Ask for the original sticker to see options or search via VIN. Asked for close up photos and request for detailed shots of any imperfections. Even four hours is still far to pick up a car and you donít want to feel pressured buying it because you already drove that far. Good luck!
M3 is a ZCP car with Black Extended Merino Leather, Executive Package, M Double-clutch Transmission with Drivelogic, Active Blind Spot Detection, Apple CarPlay Compatibility, Wireless Charging, CF Frnt Attachment w/Aero Kit, Carbon Fiber Mirror Caps, Carbon Fiber Rear Spoiler, Stainless Steel Pedals. Original MSRP $83,195.00

Your right 4 hours is still long way to go. I know with Covid that a lot of dealers are doing this online buying but no way I would buy a $60k plus car without seeing it in person.
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Hey all- new to the forum and looking for advice on my first M car.

Looking at a 2018 M3 ZCP and found one with the options I've been looking for (exec, M double clutch trans, M Drivers package)- it's got individual frozen black metallic paint which looks pretty sweet. Original MSRP was $94K. Has ~32K miles on it which I felt like was a lot for the sticker of $63K. It's from a small boutique dealership and has original warranty up to 50K miles and was just serviced at a BMW Dealer.

Anything you'd worry about before pulling trigger? Independent inspection necessary or good to go if checked out at dealership recently? My only hang-ups are the mileage and the maintenance of frozen factory paint.

Thanks!
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I would look at the M3 if the body style makes you happy. 2018 is last yr for M3 so you can't get any newer than that. At 64k you can probably ask a few thousand less and/or add your savings to extend warranty.
Be detailed about what the loaded out options are they vary a lot. Ask for the original sticker to see options or search via VIN. Asked for close up photos and request for detailed shots of any imperfections. [COLOR="Red"]Even four hours is still far to pick up a car and you don't want to feel pressured buying it because you already drove that far[/COLOR]. Good luck!
M3 is a ZCP car with Black Extended Merino Leather, Executive Package, M Double-clutch Transmission with Drivelogic, Active Blind Spot Detection, Apple CarPlay Compatibility, Wireless Charging, CF Frnt Attachment w/Aero Kit, Carbon Fiber Mirror Caps, Carbon Fiber Rear Spoiler, Stainless Steel Pedals. Original MSRP $83,195.00

Your right 4 hours is still long way to go. I know with Covid that a lot of dealers are doing this online buying but no way I would buy a $60k plus car without seeing it in person.
It seems like a well optioned car. Just do your due diligence and go for it!
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Hey all- new to the forum and looking for advice on my first M car.

Looking at a 2018 M3 ZCP and found one with the options I've been looking for (exec, M double clutch trans, M Drivers package)- it's got individual frozen black metallic paint which looks pretty sweet. Original MSRP was $94K. Has ~32K miles on it which I felt like was a lot for the sticker of $63K. It's from a small boutique dealership and has original warranty up to 50K miles and was just serviced at a BMW Dealer.

Anything you'd worry about before pulling trigger? Independent inspection necessary or good to go if checked out at dealership recently? My only hang-ups are the mileage and the maintenance of frozen factory paint.

Thanks!
I think that seems reasonable with the car having sticker price of 94 and it being 3 years old, plus the frozen paint is rare. Prices have gone up on cars in general and the f80 from what I've seen (covid prices). Just look at listings within a wide radius like 500mi and see what they are going for with their comparable options and years. The s55 is pretty reliable and I would say the age would be more of a factor than the miles since the seals on bmws suck lol.
32k isn't that much IMO and car is only 3 years old. I didn't do an inspection on mine since it was cpo, just looked into engine bay and all body panels and gaps to see if any unreported accidents occurred, that's about it. Interior was in excellent condition too and no door dings. Just find out what you feel comfortable paying for this car and don't rush. I don't think this car is worth it's sticker price new, but that's just me.
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