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      11-04-2020, 07:18 PM   #45
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That is awesome. I will look them up. I think you're in the Dallas area but it's not that far of a drive.
Oh, I thought you were in California?

Here is their site -> http://texastrackworks.com/

All my track friends have used them and said they're the best. They're in Ft. Worth so I've never used them lol, Ft. Worth is a drive from Dallas. But I talked to them today and got a really good vibe. I always just start out saying it's just an M4 so I don't get hit with the GTS tax but once I told them it was a GTS and had KW 3-ways stock etc. they were super enthusiastic and asked a ton of questions about the car. Seemed like proper enthusiasts.
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Compared to mine it looks like your car has been dropped to track height. I guess that makes sense since you have camber plates in!
I kept thinking about this since you mentioned it and booked an appt today with Texas Track Works to adjust the suspension's ride height and dampers to "Public Road/Nürburgring" settings per the supplementary manual. Hopefully, it'll be even more compliant than it currently is and I'll worry even less about scraping.

Btw, if you guys ever do something like this shop around. I was quoted $800(!) by an M specialist in town. TTW is doing it for $300 and they are the go-to shop for local Porsche GT owners.
It's super easy to do it yourself. I've adjusted the height and dampener setting a few times. Why pay for it? Remove the wheels and start clicking. Ha!
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It's super easy to do it yourself. I've adjusted the height and dampener setting a few times. Why pay for it? Remove the wheels and start clicking. Ha!
Lol, nice. Don't you have to get an alignment any time you change ride height? I thought that was the case.
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It's super easy to do it yourself. I've adjusted the height and dampener setting a few times. Why pay for it? Remove the wheels and start clicking. Ha!
Lol, nice. Don't you have to get an alignment any time you change ride height? I thought that was the case.
Not necessarily, no. I've never done it... unless you remove the c clips and go to the insanely low. But if you're only lowering it 10mm or up to the c clips, it's not necessary.

The rebound adjustments are also super easy. 3 settings per shock.. Just close it all the way and then count clicks as you unscrew it.

I think 800$ is too much for something as simple as this... unless you don't want to mess with it. I don't know, I love tinkering with things like this... adjusting the splitter, rear spoiler, shocks, height. It's fun.
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Gotcha, im trying to raise the car not lower it

I agree the $800 quote was ridiculous, TTW is doing it for $300 which seemed pretty reasonable given they're adjusting all four corners to exact factory spec then performing an alignment.

I can see how tinkering would be a lot of fun, unfortunately my free time is really limited these days.
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Gotcha, im trying to raise the car not lower it. I agree the $800 quote was ridiculous, TTW is doing it for $300 which seemed pretty reasonable given they're adjusting all four corners to exact factory spec then performing an alignment.

I can see how tinkering would be a lot of fun, unfortunately my free time is really limited these days.
Raising is just as easy... you should have c clips in your Gts pouch. You raise it until the c clips fit in snug on to the shock. That's it. It's all in that manual that came with the car.

This car is meant for a track... that's why it gives you an option to adjust it yourself. Nobody that I know goes to get alignment every time they touch the suspension for the track/street. I never tracked my last nor have plans for this one, but I do lower it 10mm as I like the lowered look better. Personal preference.
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That is awesome. I will look them up. I think you're in the Dallas area but it's not that far of a drive.
Check out Soulspeed in Austin if you're in the area. I've heard a lot of good things about them, and plan on taking my GTS there when I get my camber plates.
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I kept thinking about this since you mentioned it and booked an appt today with Texas Track Works to adjust the suspension's ride height and dampers to "Public Road/Nürburgring" settings per the supplementary manual. Hopefully, it'll be even more compliant than it currently is and I'll worry even less about scraping.

Btw, if you guys ever do something like this shop around. I was quoted $800(!) by an M specialist in town. TTW is doing it for $300 and they are the go-to shop for local Porsche GT owners.
$300!

It takes maybe 15 mins. That's nuts.

EDIT: Saw the alignment. If they're doing a proper alignment with corner balancing, that's not bad. But the raising/lowering is very easy if you have a decent jack and a wheel gun.

You also don't need an alignment when moving from track to street or vice versa. It was designed so that camber/toe/caster/etc would all be correct when raised or lowered.
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Yes, this includes proper alignment with corner balance. I also have no idea what the current alignment settings are as I just bought the car so I wanted to have a good baseline (It didn't need any fluid changes at 3k miles either but I again wanted a clean baseline and the peace of mind that everything is perfect).

It also very slightly pulls to the right if I let go of the wheel at highway speeds so I figured an alignment was in order. The shop told me raising the car and putting the dampers to Public Road spec is the easy part and doesn't add much to the cost, it's mainly the alignment. To have a pro alignment with corner balance done at a well regarded shop the price seemed reasonable, and they were the cheapest quote I got among two M specialists and another Porsche track shop I contacted.

Good to know raising/lowering doesn't require an alignment though, for some reason I thought that was always the case.
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Yes, this includes proper alignment with corner balance. I also have no idea what the current alignment settings are as I just bought the car so I wanted to have a good baseline (It didn't need any fluid changes at 3k miles either but I again wanted a clean baseline and the peace of mind that everything is perfect).

It also very slightly pulls to the right if I let go of the wheel at highway speeds so I figured an alignment was in order. The shop told me raising the car and putting the dampers to Public Road spec is the easy part and doesn't add much to the cost, it's mainly the alignment. To have a pro alignment with corner balance done at a well regarded shop the price seemed reasonable, and they were the cheapest quote I got among two M specialists and another Porsche track shop I contacted.

Good to know raising/lowering doesn't require an alignment though, for some reason I thought that was always the case.
My car also pulled to the right when I first got it. There was a s/w update that corrected the problem.
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My car also pulled to the right when I first got it. There was a s/w update that corrected the problem.
This is interesting... mine does too... a little. They did update the whole car when it was there... I have yet to drive it since though... maybe today
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My car also pulled to the right when I first got it. There was a s/w update that corrected the problem.
What's an "s/w update"?

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This is interesting... mine does too... a little. They did update the whole car when it was there... I have yet to drive it since though... maybe today
Good to know im not alone lol. It's very slight but noticeable.

Man I'm hoping I get a chance to drive the car this weekend, been slammed.
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Car has been on a trickle charger for the last ~month. I'm not going to winterize the car this year, going to track it a few times this winter to stay fresh in addition to some iRacing practice.

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My car also pulled to the right when I first got it. There was a s/w update that corrected the problem.
Huh.. my car does the same exact thing even after 2 subsequent alignments to touch up front camber and rear toe. My DME wasn't flashed for my water injection block, guess I should inquire to see if there are any updates available.
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Yes, this includes proper alignment with corner balance. I also have no idea what the current alignment settings are as I just bought the car so I wanted to have a good baseline (It didn't need any fluid changes at 3k miles either but I again wanted a clean baseline and the peace of mind that everything is perfect).

It also very slightly pulls to the right if I let go of the wheel at highway speeds so I figured an alignment was in order. The shop told me raising the car and putting the dampers to Public Road spec is the easy part and doesn't add much to the cost, it's mainly the alignment. To have a pro alignment with corner balance done at a well regarded shop the price seemed reasonable, and they were the cheapest quote I got among two M specialists and another Porsche track shop I contacted.

Good to know raising/lowering doesn't require an alignment though, for some reason I thought that was always the case.
This can be due to the camber / crown of the road also.
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She's photogenic everywhere! Such a beautiful car.

I think you need to grab at least the midpoint on the rear wing angle, though. Because race car.
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She's photogenic everywhere! Such a beautiful car.

I think you need to grab at least the midpoint on the rear wing angle, though. Because race car.
Yes good point. Doing it today!

I don't drive fast enough on public roads where it would unbalance the car with the front splitter lip fully retracted.
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You likely won't notice the aero adjustments on the street, or even on the track. Rear wing at maximum attack + splitter retracted vs deployed and I cannot sense a difference at 90mph and 1g+ cornering.

I've driven heavy aero cars that just understeer perpetually from all the rear downforce. That isn't the M4 GTS. The aero is mostly style points.
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I think you need to grab at least the midpoint on the rear wing angle, though. Because race car.
Thanks man, what is the middle setting intended for?

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You likely won't notice the aero adjustments on the street, or even on the track. Rear wing at maximum attack + splitter retracted vs deployed and I cannot sense a difference at 90mph and 1g+ cornering.

I've driven heavy aero cars that just understeer perpetually from all the rear downforce. That isn't the M4 GTS. The aero is mostly style points.
Ya, that’s what I figured. Deploying the splitter is a non-starter here so I figured adjusting the wing wouldn’t make a difference either.
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Style points and slightly lesser fuel economy!
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