09-25-2018, 01:06 PM | #1 |
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I have a 2018 M3 and wanted to look into using a different oil than what BMW is currently using. The other reason I want to switch is it seems BMW can't seem to make up its mind on what weight oil the S55 should be getting.
A recent trip to my dealer and they were telling me that BMW is switching all M engines to a heavier weight oil which seems odd considering the variation amongst all the M engines. So instead of relying on BMW to come up with what oil to put in the car (which seems to change every year) I think I am going to stick with a brand and weight that meets the requirements of the engine. My plan was to go with Liqui Molly. Any recommendations on which weight from that brand would be the go to for the S55......Ow40???? Was also going to add ceratec to the oil when I do this oil change. Thanks in advance |
09-25-2018, 02:29 PM | #2 |
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Weight/grade is somewhat irrelevant as certification/specification is what matters most. For example the LL-01 spec has oil grades ranging from 0w30 to 5w40 and everything in between. Any engine spec'd for LL-01 can run any grade without issue as the specification calls for certain minimum requirements.
That said, BMW's recommendations have indeed been somewhat confusing as they have recommended LL-01 and/or LL-01FE oils in different owners manuals and in different model years. I would just make sure that whichever oil you choose that it meets the specification requirements called for in your particular owners manual. On another note, any particular reason you would like to use Liqui Molly? You can surely find another oil which will meet the BMW spec for less cost and more readily accessible. |
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Thanks for the quick reply. As far as Liqui molly I have no issue sourcing it. The other option is the Castrol syntec which I have always used in all my other cars that I do my own oil changes. |
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09-25-2018, 03:33 PM | #4 |
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I use Castol as well (0w40) in my M3. It carries the LL-01 certification (along with virtually every other German manufacturer spec) and is about $27 for a 5qt jug at Walmart or Amazon. Cant beat it. Just did a fresh oil change with it this past weekend actually
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https://www.walmart.com/ip/Castrol-E...SABEgIvNfD_BwE This oil is LL01 though and not FE. As far as I know, LL01 is now an older certification which BMW no longer specs and has instead moved to LL-01FE and LL-14FE which are lighter grades of oil and help with fuel economy. If you want to stick with an LL-01FE oil as recommended by your manual then I don't think you have many, if any, options outside of the OEM Bmw branded oil (which is high quality and perfectly fine to use). |
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I will hold off switching until castrol or someone else makes the FE one. I'm sure oem one is fine but I am a big believer in sticking with an oil and not changing it up all the time and the way BMW has been operating with this they have been all over the place. Thanks so much. |
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Looks like Im leaning towards Castrol or Liqui molly... |
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09-26-2018, 03:48 PM | #10 |
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I'm still running 0W40 European formula synthetics just like I have in all my previous BMW's they keep going with lighter oils for MPG reasons only. The tolerances haven't gotten tighter.
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For the OP (or anybody curious about the oil specs for our cars) you should do some research on the "FE" rating/spec. As others have mentioned, it is only for Fuel Efficiency. With all of the pressure on the OEMs to make the most fuel efficient cars (regardless of performance category), it would not surprise me if the primary motivation for BMW (or any other OEM) to now only recommend FE oils was not based on performance, but rather to maximize fuel efficiency numbers.
After learning about the differences between the FE and non-FE oil specification, I decided to use non-FE oils. I have been putting in the now discontinued 0W-40 BMW M oil ever since I got the car - and I have 20K+ miles on the clock now, conducting mid-interval oil changes at 5k miles. It is difficult to find BMW 0W-40 BMW M oil, but there is still some out there, including at some dealers.
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My personal choice, if I really wanted to split hairs, is BMW OEM 5w30 or Pennzoil Ultra platinum GTL 5w30 (which I believe is the same formula or similar to OEM twin power 5w30). The Gas to liquid oils that SOPUS has made (Pennzoil / OEM twin power) has low NOACK which is better for DI turbo engines.. Lower NOACK usually correlates to less carbon valve buildup. Again with that said, if it's time for an oil change, to make it simple; LL-01 or FE, any, is fine, especially if you're just changing the oil in-between the annual free maintenances. This is the main rule to go by. |
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I thought they had solved the carbon buildup on the valves issue associated with direct injection? Didn't they add a mechanism to spray a small amount of fuel on the back of the valves? That being said my 08 335 that never had anything but 0W40 did not have significant carbon buildup at 65K miles when I finally had the walnut blasting done. |
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I’m using Motul Specific 5W-30 with LiquMoly Flush and Ceratec. Doing it myself every 6 months or 5k miles. Live in Atlanta. |
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As an aside - I've used good 0W30 or 0W40 oil with a high quality synthetic media filter (WIX) at generous intervals and i've been very happy. |
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