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Now that's a funny comment given to whom it is directed
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This is about to get good. Where's the popcorn?
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LOL boys, well done.
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06-29-2014, 10:53 PM | #95 |
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If a coilover suspension is your desire, then I agree that there's no reason for adaptive suspension. But I would question if you actually would have a better handling car or just a car that looks cooler. There's many hours of tuning that goes into the factory suspension. I doubt that any coilover manufacturer spends as much tuning time.
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While it's true that manufacturers spend substantial amounts of time and money engineering a car's suspension (and engine, and chassis, and brakes, etc), their ultimate goal is to come up with a solution that fits the car's "personality". And the M3/4's personality, while sportier than most sedans (or coupes), is that of a high-performance, daily driving, street car. |
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06-30-2014, 08:56 AM | #100 | |
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EDC can provide better body control without than passive suspension without compromising comfort. In the case of the M3, you shouldn't think of it as making the car more comfortable, you should think of it as improving body control. If you prefer the passive suspension, I have no agrument, as I'm sure it's fantastic. But don't bash the adaptive suspension without driving it. Also, you might want to check my post history before you tell me to do some research. Here, I'll get you started: http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=942225 (Written in context of the F30, but you get my point) Edit: Looks like I was beaten to the punch! Thanks guys. I have no issue with his comments, I'm just trying to make sure misinformation doesn't get spread to far.
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I'll reiterate: The point of EDC is NOT to improve comfort. It's to minimize ANY kind of body motion. With a passive suspension, you cannot minimize unwanted body motion (roll, pitch, float) without introducing other types of unwanted body motion (kick, jerk, headtoss). With a semi-active suspension, you can get MUCH closer to the ideal of a skyhook ride.
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06-30-2014, 09:24 AM | #104 |
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A serious racer will take the time to tune the car for the coilovers and no doubt have a better suspension for track conditions. I can agree to that. But too many people think they can bolt on a set of coilovers and without any tuning of the system or further adjustments to the suspension system to compensate for the lowered ride height, they majically have a better handling car. But then, I suspect most of these geniuses just want to look cool.
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Are you speaking about Hendricks? If so it's the worst dealer I have ever tried to deal with. Called with a cash offer for an 11 E92 and they didn't call me back for 3 days. Bought a car somewhere else.
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06-30-2014, 10:41 AM | #110 |
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So do all of the mod-squad. Do you know how popular tuner installed, corner-balanced and aligned suspensions are? Hell, EAS does them all day long.
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