Carbon brakes aren't covered by BMW's four-year maintenance plan

[accce]

They are covered under the maintenance plan. This is from my dealer:

Spoke to service advisor and warranty administrator and they confirmed yes the ceramic brakes are covered under maintenance and warranty. However it was cautioned that one should be super careful when removing tires <<...>>

as any damage to brakes from tire removal is not covered. Apparently there is a special jack used for this.

[04RC51]

Originally Posted by accce

They are covered under the maintenance plan. This is from my dealer:

Spoke to service advisor and warranty administrator and they confirmed yes the ceramic brakes are covered under maintenance and warranty. However it was cautioned that one should be super careful when removing tires <<...>>

as any damage to brakes from tire removal is not covered. Apparently there is a special jack used for this.

Sounds legit! I'll buy it.

[r3dbimmer89]

Originally Posted by Reid

Nowhere does it say that CCB's are specifically excluded.

Here is a copy of the M service booklet. It specifically states that CCB ARE NOT covered. But things could have changed.

[GBPackerfan1963]

Originally Posted by r3dbimmer89

Here is a copy of the M service booklet. It specifically states that CCB ARE NOT covered. But things could have changed.

Yes, we are aware of what the manual states. It is not etched in stone and they have stated that they are "covered."

[shortseller]

Originally Posted by r3dbimmer89

Here is a copy of the M service booklet. It specifically states that CCB ARE NOT covered. But things could have changed.

OMG, someone actually stopped speculating and found the service manual. No way!

[shortseller]

Originally Posted by GBPackerfan1963

Yes, we are aware of what the manual states. It is not etched in stone and they have stated that they are "covered."

Pictures or as they say or "it didn't happen".

[GBPackerfan1963]

Originally Posted by shortseller

Pictures or as they say or "it didn't happen".

Pictures, we don't need no stinkin' pictures. I was told by a BMWNA District Rep that they were initially not going to cover them, but they had a "change of heart." He told me they anticipate the rotors lasting a BMW "lifetime" and the pads will last over 50K.

So they are basically saying they'll cover them, but we probably won't be changing them during your warranty period.

[shortseller]

Not doubting what they told you, but I'd err on the side of caution till someone comes up with it in writing. The, I know a guy that knows a guy that told me so..., probably won't work at the BMW service counter after you see it on the bill.

[04RC51]

Originally Posted by shortseller

Not doubting what they told you, but I'd err on the side of caution till someone comes up with it in writing. The, I know a guy that knows a guy that told me so..., probably won't work at the BMW service counter after you see it on the bill.

They wouldn't put it on the bill without talking to you anyway. At which point you could have a discussion and come to an agreement.

[bradone1]

My service advisor, client advisor and special order person at my dealer all confirmed that they are now covered fully

Enough speculating about penises and whatnot, ninnies.

I'll get a formal statement from BMW NA as I have them on order for a m4 individual vert

[Ex_Stig]

Originally Posted by Divexxtreme

Agreed! I told my dealer that if BMW doesn't cover them, buyers are going to shy away from them even more than they already are. BMW needs to step up and cover their CCBs just like Chevy does for the ZR1, Z06 and Z/28, and Porsche does for all of their PCCB cars.

Since when did Chevy and Porsche offer scheduled maintenance? They might cover CCBs under warranty for defect, but I don't think either if them will replace pads or rotors for free.

[Ex_Stig]

Originally Posted by bradone1

My service advisor, client advisor and special order person at my dealer all confirmed that they are now covered fully

Enough speculating about penises and whatnot, ninnies.

I'll get a formal statement from BMW NA as I have them on order for a m4 individual vert

This will be interesting because the CCBs were specifically excluded from coverage on the M5. I wonder if that will change.

My guess, they won't be covered for the M3/4/5/6 at all.

[Divexxtreme]

Originally Posted by GNALUZU

Since when did Chevy and Porsche offer scheduled maintenance? They might cover CCBs under warranty for defect, but I don't think either if them will replace pads or rotors for free.

Great point. You're absolutely right.

[F82_SID]

I already asked these questions when I was ordering my M4. The fact of the matter is that CCBs were not covered when they were initially offered on the M5 but this has since changed and ARE NOW covered across the board.

[Divexxtreme]

Okay folks, here is the final answer. SI B000214, dated June 2014, asterisked sentence at the bottom of page 1, carbon ceramic rotors and pads are NOT covered under the Maintenance Program. Frustratingly, Jalopnik was right.

[SOM3]

Standard brakes are so good that I don't see benefit of CCB unless you got cash to blow.

[Divexxtreme]

Originally Posted by SOM3

Standard brakes are so good that I don't see benefit of CCB unless you got cash to blow.

At this point, I agree with that statement

[M4TW]

Just another reminder about the difference between free service visits and warranty coverage. Under ordinary use, the pads, rotors and calipers should not need replacement within 4 years. Thus it makes sense to exclude them from free maintenance.

If they need repair, it's because A. they have been put to extraordinary use in which case the service freebee's would not apply anyway or B. there is a malfunction warranting warranty work.

In short, whether there is coverage or not for free service does not mean there is no coverage whatsoever.

Carry on.

[JoeFromPA]

Originally Posted by GBPackerfan1963

Pictures, we don't need no stinkin' pictures. I was told by a BMWNA District Rep that they were initially not going to cover them, but they had a "change of heart." He told me they anticipate the rotors lasting a BMW "lifetime" and the pads will last over 50K.

So they are basically saying they'll cover them, but we probably won't be changing them during your warranty period.

You know I love you man, but a district rep verbally telling you they had a change of heart means little. Currently the opposite is in writing - and I have yet to see anything in writing saying they will be covered.

I don't care one way or another, and I think CCB owners are going to flock to the forums and cry like little babies when rocks/wheel removal/random stuff damages one of their very sensitive rotors and they need to shell out $2k to fix it.

That being said, let's only state what's in writing at this time as fact. Nothing wrong with sharing that what is in writing may change though.

[consolidated]

Originally Posted by JoeFromPA

I don't care one way or another, and I think CCB owners are going to flock to the forums and cry like little babies when rocks/wheel removal/random stuff damages one of their very sensitive rotors and they need to shell out $2k to fix it.

It'll all be worth it to see the jealousy in the eyes of those with blue calipers just one time.

[JoeFromPA]

Hehehe, one of the things I wonder about is this: Porsche/Ferrari/etc. CCB providers are very low mileage vehicles and tend to be driven in "ideal" circumstances.

Whereas M3s are somewhat higher mileage vehicles and driven in more daily circumstances. But will CCB equipped M3's be such? We shall see!

[consolidated]

My guess is you'll see well used CCB cars with steel rotors when they become available.