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      01-30-2017, 03:48 PM   #23
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There's no risk here AFAIK; id6 hasn't worked on MY2016 cars from what I understand, so it might be worthwhile just to see if you can load it up.

I coded a friend's MY2017 to id6_light and he's pretty pleased with the flat design language on 6 as opposed to 4/5.
Just wondering. Did you flash your own factory HU to ID5/ID6 or did you use a donor unit? As far as I know, you can't flash back to ID4 once it's been flashed to ID5.
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Just wondering. Did you flash your own factory HU to ID5/ID6 or did you use a donor unit? As far as I know, you can't flash back to ID4 once it's been flashed to ID5.
I used my own HU, which was sacrificial in a sense. I have a feeling that it won't be too long before I purchase a non-RUEKO NBT2 to replace it with, although tearing apart the entire dash will surely suck.

For now I use my phone for nav; Google Assistant via Bluetooth is pretty great fwiw.
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I used my own HU, which was sacrificial in a sense. I have a feeling that it won't be too long before I purchase a non-RUEKO NBT2 to replace it with, although tearing apart the entire dash will surely suck.

For now I use my phone for nav; Google Assistant via Bluetooth is pretty great fwiw.
Damn, you're brave.

I ended up doing the same with mine and I had to replace it with another ID4 unit using my repair codes. I couldn't stand having no nav and no ConnectedDrive

Ever since then, I've been buying donor parts and using those to flash instead.
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I'm currently using "id6_light" on my 2017 M4 that was delivered with iDrive 5 and has the HU_NBT2 ECU.

I just had to change from the default "id5_plus_plus" to "id6_light". In my case this did not affect navigation, CarPlay, or ConnectedDrive features, but I think that's because iDrive 5 was native on my system and iDrive 6 "light" seems mostly to be a different skin for the interface.

iDrive 5 compared to 4 is a major evolution and I greatly prefer it. I slightly prefer iDrive 6 "light" over 5. I like the live tiles and find the typography a bit prettier overall, but apart from that I don't think "id6_light" is much different in terms of functionality. The live tiles, for me, make it worth coding this when it's quick and easy but I really doubt there's enough difference here for anyone to lose sleep over.

I'm not sure what the difference is between "light" and not-light. I haven't tried coding to "id6" because I really don't want to be messing with FSC's on this system.
Thank you for bringing this coding to my attention I coded "id6_light" today on my 2017 M2 and am going to play around with it
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Thank you for bringing this coding to my attention I coded "id6_light" today on my 2017 M2 and am going to play around with it
I was going to try this tomorrow when my cables came in. Glad I wont have to be the M2 guinea pig!

Let me know if you find any issues.
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Thank you for bringing this coding to my attention I coded "id6_light" today on my 2017 M2 and am going to play around with it
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I was going to try this tomorrow when my cables came in. Glad I wont have to be the M2 guinea pig!

Let me know if you find any issues.
- Can you guys post some screenshots of the major changes that you notice?
- Can you mention the exact parameter to change? I presume, it will be FDL coding the HU_NBT2?
- Do you lose any stock functionality (I presume not) and is the change reversible? - Just double checking before I try out at the weekend.

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- Can you guys post some screenshots of the major changes that you notice?
- Can you mention the exact parameter to change? I presume, it will be FDL coding the HU_NBT2?
- Do you lose any stock functionality (I presume not) and is the change reversible? - Just double checking before I try out at the weekend.

Thanks..
The OP has a video posted that shows you what you can expect as far as the interface is concerned. On my 2017 M2 with NBT Evo / iDrive 5 stock, I did not lose any functionality. So far I am enjoying it You can easily code it back if you don't like it.

For the coding -

In the HU_NBT2 Module:

3000 -> HMI_ID_VERSION set to: id6_light (id5_plus_plus is default)
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- Can you guys post some screenshots of the major changes that you notice?
- Can you mention the exact parameter to change? I presume, it will be FDL coding the HU_NBT2?
- Do you lose any stock functionality (I presume not) and is the change reversible?
The video shows nearly every screen of which one could take a shot. It looks just like that.

japanaltaf's reply has what coding is needed.

This already is stock in some cars now and will be in the next F8x's. The programming for the different layout and the new tiles is already right there in the ECU, so the coding just switches skins, really.

Both of the above are based on the assumption that you're starting with iDrive 5 as your original interface (so, a 2017 F8x, for example).

It adds "live" or "active" tiles. Since it shows only 3 at a time and not all 6, that might conceivably count as "lost functionality", but apart from that nothing is actually different in terms of function. I think it looks prettier overall.

It's reversible.

Edit: in some respects, showing only half the tiles at a time might truly be reduced functionality depending on how you use iDrive. I'm finding it a bit annoying that I have to switch screens sometimes. On the other hand, I never previously drove around with the tiles showing because there was no point, so it's absolutely no loss for me. The live tiles are actually useful, so I now default to the main menu most of the time. I just wish it were possible to rearrange them so I could have my 3 favorites displayed at the same time, but I see no reason to believe that's possible.

Update: It IS possible to rearrange the tiles.
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The video shows nearly every screen of which one could take a shot. It looks just like that.

japanaltaf's reply has what coding is needed.

This already is stock in some cars now and will be in the next F8x's. The programming for the different layout and the new tiles is already right there in the ECU, so the coding just switches skins, really.

Both of the above are based on the assumption that you're starting with iDrive 5 as your original interface (so, a 2017 F8x, for example).

It adds "live" or "active" tiles. Since it shows only 3 at a time and not all 6, that might conceivably count as "lost functionality", but apart from that nothing is actually different in terms of function. I think it looks prettier overall.

It's reversible.

Edit: in some respects, showing only half the tiles at a time might truly be reduced functionality depending on how you use iDrive. I'm finding it a bit annoying that I have to switch screens sometimes. On the other hand, I never previously drove around with the tiles showing because there was no point, so it's absolutely no loss for me. The live tiles are actually useful, so I now default to the main menu most of the time. I just wish it were possible to rearrange them so I could have my 3 favorites displayed at the same time, but I see no reason to believe that's possible.
Pressing Menu when on the home screen will display all of the home tiles.
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The OP has a video posted that shows you what you can expect as far as the interface is concerned. On my 2017 M2 with NBT Evo / iDrive 5 stock, I did not lose any functionality. So far I am enjoying it You can easily code it back if you don't like it.

For the coding -

In the HU_NBT2 Module:

3000 -> HMI_ID_VERSION set to: id6_light (id5_plus_plus is default)
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The video shows nearly every screen of which one could take a shot. It looks just like that.

japanaltaf's reply has what coding is needed.

This already is stock in some cars now and will be in the next F8x's. The programming for the different layout and the new tiles is already right there in the ECU, so the coding just switches skins, really.

Both of the above are based on the assumption that you're starting with iDrive 5 as your original interface (so, a 2017 F8x, for example).

It adds "live" or "active" tiles. Since it shows only 3 at a time and not all 6, that might conceivably count as "lost functionality", but apart from that nothing is actually different in terms of function. I think it looks prettier overall.

It's reversible.

Edit: in some respects, showing only half the tiles at a time might truly be reduced functionality depending on how you use iDrive. I'm finding it a bit annoying that I have to switch screens sometimes. On the other hand, I never previously drove around with the tiles showing because there was no point, so it's absolutely no loss for me. The live tiles are actually useful, so I now default to the main menu most of the time. I just wish it were possible to rearrange them so I could have my 3 favorites displayed at the same time, but I see no reason to believe that's possible.
Thank you for your detailed responses. I shall try this out at the weekend.
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Pressing Menu when on the home screen will display all of the home tiles.
Interesting. Thanks for pointing that out.

However, I find this display somewhat busy compared to the 3 tiles. It's hard to make much use of anything displayed on them since they're so much smaller. I couldn't use this display as a menu - selecting and clicking on a tile took me back to the 3-tile display, not to the submenu corresponding to it.
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Here is iD6 Lite running on my 17 M3 thanks to mstevens

How did you get ConnectedDrive to show up as the second tile? Did you find a way to rearrange the tiles? Communication is the second tile on mine...
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AFAIK; id6 hasn't worked on MY2016 cars from what I understand, so it might be worthwhile just to see if you can load it up.
Coding to "id6_light" works great.

Coding to "id6" gives me the iDrive 4 interface.

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I just wish it were possible to rearrange them so I could have my 3 favorites displayed at the same time
This is doable - see below.

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Pressing Menu when on the home screen will display all of the home tiles.
That it will, and as I replied earlier I don't find that view at all useful.

However, this is how you move the tiles.

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How did you get ConnectedDrive to show up as the second tile? Did you find a way to rearrange the tiles? Communication is the second tile on mine...
Press the "Menu" button while in the home screen. Then turn the iDrive controller to go to the tile you want to move and shift it right or left to move the tile. Depress the controller when you want to exit that view.
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Press the "Menu" button while in the home screen. Then turn the iDrive controller to go to the tile you want to move and shift it right or left to move the tile. Depress the controller when you want to exit that view.
Thank you so much I figured it would be done from the screen that pops up after hitting "Menu" but didn't know what to do from there. This is awesome!
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Enabled id6_light. Looks a bit cluttered, but lets see how it looks while actual driving and its usability.

Great find though, and thank you everyone for the guidance.

Has anyone enabled id6 (full instead of light) and what it does or looks like?
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Enabled id6_light. Looks a bit cluttered, but lets see how it looks while actual driving and its usability.

Great find though, and thank you everyone for the guidance.

Has anyone enabled id6 (full instead of light) and what it does or looks like?
According to mstevens post, 2 above yours, setting to "id6" enables the iDrive 4 interface...
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Looks a bit cluttered
Not to me, at least not compared to the iDrive 4 and iDrive 5 main menus. I nearly always drove with the map showing because the main menu was so useless and unattractive. Now I drive with Entertainment Details, ConnectedDrive (showing weather) and Navigation displayed. That's a LOT more useful information.

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lets see how it looks while actual driving and its usability.
We were actually able to navigate fine today using the active tile (and the HUD, of course). We still had more information than if we'd had Entertainment Details in the Split Screen view.

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Has anyone enabled id6 (full instead of light) and what it does or looks like?
It looks exactly like iDrive 4. I suspect it just fails because of the lack of hardware to support gestures and touch and drops to the lowest level interface available to it.
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Not to me, at least not compared to the iDrive 4 and iDrive 5 main menuse. I nearly always drove with the map showing because the main menu was so useless and unattractive. Now I drive with Entertainment Details, ConnectedDrive (showing weather) and Navigation showing. That's a LOT more useful information.
[Agree: Once I drove to work this morning, the tiled screen actually looked good & useful.
I will still miss the analog clock that came up as a screensaver. Wish there was a way to have the clock or tiles as a choice.]
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Using id6_light for 2 days now... and really like it.

Lot of info available on the main screen and with the nav instructions, etc.. on HUD, never need to change the view !
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Question for you guys... have a 2017 F80, 10/28 production date and it came with iDrive 5....

When I looked over the weekend my options were 4++ and 5... I didn't see ID6 in there... am i missing something? maybe a software update needed to my NBT unit.

Would anyone mind posting the software versions that their unit is running and maybe i can see what i'm missing here...

as a MY17 I should have this option, very weird.

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Question for you guys... have a 2017 F80, 10/28 production date and it came with iDrive 5....

When I looked over the weekend my options were 4++ and 5... I didn't see ID6 in there... am i missing something? maybe a software update needed to my NBT unit.

Would anyone mind posting the software versions that their unit is running and maybe i can see what i'm missing here...

as a MY17 I should have this option, very weird.

Using 60.1 Lite coding files as well if that makes a difference.
I think I understood your issue...

Look at the 2 screenshots attached and hopefully the issue is clear. You are looking at an incorrect entry.

Search for HMI_ID_VERSION and not HMI_VERSION

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