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      02-18-2019, 10:31 AM   #67
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So, the dynos presented were a 20 pct reduction in all gears? It was run in 5th gear for the dyno to " show" how it works, but we wouldn't actually reduce it in 5th gear for the street, correct?? Just a reduction in 1-3 for traction but having the higher top end rush in the higher gears of a custom tune over OEM?
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So, the dynos presented were a 20 pct reduction in all gears? It was run in 5th gear for the dyno to " show" how it works, but we wouldn't actually reduce it in 5th gear for the street, correct?? Just a reduction in 1-3 for traction but having the higher top end rush in the higher gears of a custom tune over OEM?
Depends if you use for street or track. Yes I simply used 5th to show how it works
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Exactly!

No need for custom as you can customize it yourself.

20% limitation is just above stock, more like CS torque but topend is way higher!
Based on what you just stated, it sounds like the stage 2 map is the better choice since now you can "shape" hp and torque curves in the gears you wish and still arrive at higher torque and HP " when you want". Pretty cool if so.
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awesome info !

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@Halim@HCP any chance we could see stage 1 BM3 on a stock comp package F80/82? I would love to see those results.
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thx Reid , but i believe Padfan9 wants to see the dyno result of OTS Stage 1 91 with 20% torque reduction. same for me too!

Halim@HCP , any chance pls?
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thx Reid , but i believe Padfan9 wants to see the dyno result of OTS Stage 1 91 with 20% torque reduction. same for me too!

Halim@HCP , any chance pls?
At the moment I do not have any stock car running 91OCT to dyno. But power should be reduced the same way as it did on the stage 2 M4.

It's lowered in torque by percentage
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thx Reid , but i believe Padfan9 wants to see the dyno result of OTS Stage 1 91 with 20% torque reduction. same for me too!

Halim@HCP , any chance pls?
At the moment I do not have any stock car running 91OCT to dyno. But power should be reduced the same way as it did on the stage 2 M4.

It's lowered in torque by percentage
noted with thx Halim@HCP

given there is like 12% reduction in actual max torque from the dyno (from 578 lb-ft to 508 lb-ft) when it's set as 20% reduction, then it's more like to set it as 15% reduction for Stage 1 91 OCT (given lower max torque output at ~545 lb-ft)? of course one will need to test it on dyno to confirm the right setting.
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thx Reid , but i believe Padfan9 wants to see the dyno result of OTS Stage 1 91 with 20% torque reduction. same for me too!

Halim@HCP , any chance pls?
At the moment I do not have any stock car running 91OCT to dyno. But power should be reduced the same way as it did on the stage 2 M4.

It's lowered in torque by percentage
noted with thx Halim@HCP

given there is like 12% reduction in actual max torque from the dyno (from 578 lb-ft to 508 lb-ft) when it's set as 20% reduction, then it's more like to set it as 15% reduction for Stage 1 91 OCT (given lower max torque output at ~545 lb-ft)? of course one will need to test it on dyno to confirm the right setting.
Are you saying the dyno torque results are 20% less then they should be?
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Are you saying the dyno torque results are 20% less then they should be?
Well thing is, the maximum torque allowed torque is not reached so going 20% will reduce that maximum allowed torque by 20% But you will see a dramatic change going from 10% to 20% to 30% (you will be doing less than factory TQ here).
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noted with thx Halim@HCP

given there is like 12% reduction in actual max torque from the dyno (from 578 lb-ft to 508 lb-ft) when it's set as 20% reduction, then it's more like to set it as 15% reduction for Stage 1 91 OCT (given lower max torque output at ~545 lb-ft)? of course one will need to test it on dyno to confirm the right setting.
I dyno'd the stage 1 91 octane map already together with tons of other OTS maps when my M3 F80 was stock with drop-in filters only. You could do the same calculation and get a result
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Great explanations and great feature!

If I understand all this correctly, this feature should maybe have a different name?

Now it's "Boost By Gear (% Reduction)" - which one would assume means that, well, the boost is reduced by the percentage you enter.

But what you're saying is what is really happening is that the torque limit of your current map is reduced by the percentage you enter, which is something pretty different.

So should it be called Torque Limit By Gear (% Reduction) instead? And would it be possible to maybe actually show the default torque limit on that page? Or display it somewhere at least? That would make it easier to understand the expected outcome.
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