Anyone else get banned from the G8X section for making fun of its looks?

[Sedan_Clan]

Yaaaay! It updated.

[NickyC]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Yaaaay! It updated.

Nice!

[GrussGott]

Originally Posted by Peertwelve

That thing is so ugly, I examined the photos for photoshop artifacts. Wtf are they thinking?

Well, they're smart to get into the segment; it's probably most interesting auto segment business/product-wise:

* On the one hand the luxury side is crowded with the Bentayga, Cullinen, Urus, Ferrari's new thing, and Porsche ... but those are all more mid-sized SUV.

* Then you have the renaissance happening in America luxury with full-size SUVs: Escalade, Navigator, and now the Grand Wagoneer. Cadillac is releasing their Escalade-V & GW is releasing a stretch version to compete with the 'Gator L & Escalade ESV:



BMW & Benz have tried to nudge in there with the X7 (203 x 79) & the GLS (205 x 85) versus, say, the Escalade non-ESV (212 x 81) or the 'Gator non-L (210 x 80).

Benz has then tried to create a new upper tier luxury market with the Maybach GLS, but still on the smaller side...

... and now BMW appears to be trying to create its own niche with a smaller-than-full-size luxury sport model.

Both of these German barges will compete with the larger American full-sized SUVs, and all 3 now have even larger versions (ESV, L, GW XL) so who knows ... but an interesting segment!

[dms-01]

Crazy how big cars/trucks continue to get. The tipping point before was the oil crisis IIRC but with the move to electric will we see a similar market correction?

Sidenote...my buddy at Cadillac just told me they are bringing out an 18+ foot luxury sedan which is knocking on the door of his coupe Deville length.

[FlyingLow78]

Originally Posted by GrussGott

Well, they're smart to get into the segment; it's probably most interesting auto segment business/product-wise:

* Then you have the renaissance happening in America luxury with full-size SUVs: Escalade, Navigator, and now the Grand Wagoneer. Cadillac is releasing their Escalade-V & GW is releasing a stretch version to compete with the 'Gator L & Escalade ESV:

Here in South Korea (and perhaps the USA) the Hyundai Palisade may have positioned the brand more upmarket than it has been in years past, but I can't know if any of it is actually true. There are quite a spectacle around here compared to the fleets of Grandeurs and Samsung 5s and 7s.

Originally Posted by dms-01

Sidenote...my buddy at Cadillac just told me they are bringing out an 18+ foot luxury sedan which is knocking on the door of his coupe Deville length.

No doubt it will be a hot seller in the Chinese market, given that it will probably have enough rear seat space to teach a yoga class.

[FlyingLow78]

Originally Posted by Peertwelve

That thing is so ugly, I examined the photos for photoshop artifacts. Wtf are they thinking?

I think this has already been posted here, but Frank gives the design a much-deserved lambasting.

[stein_325i]

What does everyone here think of the new 8er's grills. I don't know if its just me, but they remind me of teeth with huge gaps since they don't touch the bottom of the grills. Also of course M-badges and M-mirrors were added to this non-M car.

[clutchdj]

The grills actually appear to me to be upside down.

[FlyingLow78]

Originally Posted by stein_325i

What does everyone here think of the new 8er's grills.

I don't mind the look at all, but it's not a car I'd ever buy because smaller cars are much more suited to Europe.

[RugbyBro]

Originally Posted by stein_325i

What does everyone here think of the new 8er's grills. I don't know if its just me, but they remind me of teeth with huge gaps since they don't touch the bottom of the grills. Also of course M-badges and M-mirrors were added to this non-M car.

I wasn't a huge fan of the 8 to begin with - these new grilles kind of give off a cartoonish vibe if I'm honest. But in a odd way, the cartoonish-ness fits kind fits in perfectly with the current line of BMWs. It's definitely not the worst looking BMW out there, but certainly average or slightly below.

[R N M]

Originally Posted by stein_325i

What does everyone here think of the new 8er's grills. I don't know if its just me, but they remind me of teeth with huge gaps since they don't touch the bottom of the grills. Also of course M-badges and M-mirrors were added to this non-M car.

I think the 8er is a decent design but not great and did not deserve the 8series moniker in the first place as its just a new gen 6 series.

This LCI is uneventful and restrained which is a good thing considering the heinous design elements on all the new BMWs.

[R N M]

Originally Posted by stein_325i

Speaking of Toyo-baru's I just drove this tonight, the new BRZ. My friend traded his M2 comp for this as he already had a Mazda 3 daily and wanted something a bit more raw and lightweight and this fits the bill and put some money into other projects.

I have to say, Toyota/Subaru really made an excellent and most importantly, "affordable" (at least by modern pricing standards) sports car. The seating position is low, the manual transmission is great, the steering feels pure with real feedback and thankfully they fixed the horrible torque dip issues of the prior car. This new one while not obviously aimed for high-performance numbers being naturally aspirated and offering around 220hp and 180lb-ft torque, but weighing under 3,000lbs, which is pretty much limited to that of a Miata or Lotus, this thing is just a joy to flog around and offers some nostalgic feel of older generation sports cars. Also, it looks good too. I think the Toyota version looks better this time around but I have to say at least for now (until the image gets ruined with obscenely modded examples) its a very clean design with no fuss or gimmicks inside and out. Really the only thing that rivals this at its price point is once again the Miata, but this will of course reach a much wider audience due to its greater practicality and space.

Its gonna be a sad day when cars like this go away.

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I had a Series Blue BRZ and really need to get another MT in my fleet. I’m waiting for the limited trim versions to come out that have Brembo brakes and STi parts etc. I do prefer GR86 styling but it doesn’t have WorldRally Blue color…
Also waiting to see the new Nissan Z.

The 1st gen BRZ i had was just incredible car - go cart handling, direct steering with just right amount of weight, great 6mt, amazing seats and driving position. You can be over 6ft and be comfortable with plenty of legroom and headroom. Can’t do that in a Miata. The engine was the big negative and I didn’t want to mess with modifying it to eak out 20-30hp. The new gen seems to have huge improvement with power and based on Videos i have seen, it sounds decent with right header/exhaust. Very excited to drive the new one and pick one up in the future.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by stein_325i

What does everyone here think of the new 8er's grills. I don't know if its just me, but they remind me of teeth with huge gaps since they don't touch the bottom of the grills. Also of course M-badges and M-mirrors were added to this non-M car.

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I have never really been a fan of the 8.

[Arcades]

Originally Posted by stein_325i

What does everyone here think of the new 8er's grills. I don't know if its just me, but they remind me of teeth with huge gaps since they don't touch the bottom of the grills. Also of course M-badges and M-mirrors were added to this non-M car.

[IMG]https://f92.bimmerpost.com/forums/at...8;d=1643153444[/IMG]
[IMG]https://f92.bimmerpost.com/forums/at...8;d=1643153511[/IMG]

I don't mind it.

Most of the new grilles seems to be upside down to some degree. Minus the obvious one I am not mentioning but we all know what it is… :P

[kyrix1st]

F8x = design perfection for M cars.

[minn19]

Originally Posted by stein_325i

What does everyone here think of the new 8er's grills. I don't know if its just me, but they remind me of teeth with huge gaps since they don't touch the bottom of the grills. Also of course M-badges and M-mirrors were added to this non-M car.

German Caddy.

[GrussGott]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

I have never really been a fan of the 8.

I've heard BMW is getting rid of the 4-series (and 6) in favor of the 8-series from 2024 on, but that was just from some dude ... stein_325i will have the final word on that

[stein_325i]

Originally Posted by GrussGott

I've heard BMW is getting rid of the 4-series (and 6) in favor of the 8-series from 2024 on, but that was just from some dude ... stein_325i will have the final word on that

The current rumor mill is all over the place. Some are saying that the 4-Series and 8-Series will morph into the 6-Series, similar to MB's approach on the upcoming CLE Coupe and Cabriolet which will be replacing both C and E-Class 2-door models as a middle ground (think of the old CLK). That being said, there were also rumors years before that a new 6er would be a 911 competitor and we all know that turned out to be false.

I find these rumors interesting as if anything the 4er has been the best selling coupe model in BMW's lineup, more so than the 2er which always sold very low in comparison (sales didn't jump until the Gran Corolla arrived) and the 8er has been a sales failure seeing as its just a 6-Series with $20k added in price, so getting rid of the 4er would be odd. Also the 4er has heritage, although more so with its older and proper name (3-Series coupe). The 3-Series started as a coupe, and has always been offered in coupe form, even when they changed the number to 4 (which I still find unnecessary). On top of that, they just gave the 4er huge nostrils so it could have its own personality and design, would be weird to get rid of all of that and replace it with an entirely new model. That being said BMW has gone crazy in many areas, so it's definitely possible.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by GrussGott

I've heard BMW is getting rid of the 4-series (and 6) in favor of the 8-series from 2024 on, but that was just from some dude ... stein_325i will have the final word on that

I dunno bro. They slashed the 8, and the 4 is a hot selling item.

[RugbyBro]

Start at 6:30 - sounds like Robert belongs in this group LOL.

*chants faintly* “One of us, one of us…”

[Arcades]

Originally Posted by RugbyBro

Start at 6:30 - sounds like Robert belongs in this group LOL.

*chants faintly* “One of us, one of us…”

You guys should post on the comment section and see if Robert or Misha replies.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by stein_325i

The current rumor mill is all over the place. Some are saying that the 4-Series and 8-Series will morph into the 6-Series, similar to MB's approach on the upcoming CLE Coupe and Cabriolet which will be replacing both C and E-Class 2-door models as a middle ground (think of the old CLK). That being said, there were also rumors years before that a new 6er would be a 911 competitor and we all know that turned out to be false.

I find these rumors interesting as if anything the 4er has been the best selling coupe model in BMW's lineup, more so than the 2er which always sold very low in comparison (sales didn't jump until the Gran Corolla arrived) and the 8er has been a sales failure seeing as its just a 6-Series with $20k added in price, so getting rid of the 4er would be odd. Also the 4er has heritage, although more so with its older and proper name (3-Series coupe). The 3-Series started as a coupe, and has always been offered in coupe form, even when they changed the number to 4 (which I still find unnecessary). On top of that, they just gave the 4er huge nostrils so it could have its own personality and design, would be weird to get rid of all of that and replace it with an entirely new model. That being said BMW has gone crazy in many areas, so it's definitely possible.

WTF, didn’t BMW just make the 6-series some sort of Luxo-GT crossover :

https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/globa...mo?language=en