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      12-20-2021, 01:22 PM   #23
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Why not keep it? Its getting rarer each day and in a few years it could be a collectors car.
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I think the logical choice seems to be buy it out, wait and see, and then decide what to keep when the G80 is here, if it arrives in the actual spec that I ordered.
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I think the logical choice seems to be buy it out, wait and see, and then decide what to keep when the G80 is here, if it arrives in the actual spec that I ordered.
Or wait for the G80 CS which shouldn't be too far away. With all the production delays and whatnot, by the time you would actually receive a regular G80 in your spec, the CS may not be that far out
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I think the logical choice seems to be buy it out, wait and see, and then decide what to keep when the G80 is here, if it arrives in the actual spec that I ordered.
Or wait for the G80 CS which shouldn't be too far away. With all the production delays and whatnot, by the time you would actually receive a regular G80 in your spec, the CS may not be that far out
I gotta think the G80 CS is at least 2 years away.
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I think the logical choice seems to be buy it out, wait and see, and then decide what to keep when the G80 is here, if it arrives in the actual spec that I ordered.
Personally I would extend the lease if you can.
If you are set on getting rid of it, why buy it out and risk it getting into accident, stolen etc which would potentially lower its value significantly. Also if you buy it then depending on your state, you will need to pay significant sales tax. All this risk for a chance to make a few grand?!

Go take that $60k and dump into Tesla stock or Crypto and you will probably make more in 30 days. Lol
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      12-22-2021, 01:33 PM   #28
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Personally I would extend the lease if you can.
If you are set on getting rid of it, why buy it out and risk it getting into accident, stolen etc which would potentially lower its value significantly. Also if you buy it then depending on your state, you will need to pay significant sales tax. All this risk for a chance to make a few grand?!

Go take that $60k and dump into Tesla stock or Crypto and you will probably make more in 30 days. Lol
If I could get money out and trade it in, I would do that for sure and not bother. However, if I just return the car, I get $0 back. Dealer is essentially giving me the lease buy out amount. So If i want to take advantage of the possible equity that I have in the car with this crazy market, I need to buy the car for $62k and then try to sell it. Otherwise, I just return it for and just walk away.

What I don't get is that the few places that I had checked out are all coming around the buy out amount, but there's isn't a signle CS for sale under $75000
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If I could get money out and trade it in, I would do that for sure and not bother. However, if I just return the car, I get $0 back. Dealer is essentially giving me the lease buy out amount. So If i want to take advantage of the possible equity that I have in the car with this crazy market, I need to buy the car for $62k and then try to sell it. Otherwise, I just return it for and just walk away.

What I don't get is that the few places that I had checked out are all coming around the buy out amount, but there's isn't a signle CS for sale under $75000
They need to make a profit. Give you $62K, add another $5Kish to restore and then sell for $70K to make some profit. A private seller might offer some more?
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If you do decide to sell, I would possibly be interested. I am somewhat local too. I have my eye on a couple 18 M3s but wasn't planning on buying for a couple months.
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Hi,

My car lease is up in a month and trying to figure out what I should do. Where should I go to see what I can get for it?

Anyone done anything recently? If so, what did you get? My buyout is $62k and everything I see online for M3CS is listed for $75k-80k right now. Would love to get some $$$ back. I have a g80 on order but just got relayed from 12/8 to 2/6 to no date now so not sure if I should just buy out the CS or sell it and wait now.
I took my 2019 M4CS w/ 9800 miles to multiple local BMW dealers today & ripped up 3 "offers" because they were insulting.
Dealer 1: $69,000
Dealer 2: $70,500
Dealer 3: $73,000

I have 5 months left on my lease & my car is absolutely pristine with very low mileage. As far as I know, BMWFS cornholes you into having to sell back to the dealer & not places like CarMax or Carvana. I know all three South Florida BMW dealers I visited are notoriously shit but I had an afternoon with some time to blow. I think I'm going to let the lease run it's course & just buy the car as the residual is $61k. I hope you have better luck then me.
Dealer 3 gave you a fair offer. Pretty much what they would pay at wholesale.
Even with 9800 miles? 73k seems lowball even for wholesale. Either way, I'm not giving these fools jack shit for that price. I would rather park it in my garage and stare at it.
$73k seems fair. I'd trade it in. Local dealer offered me $65k for my 19 M4CS with 32k miles yesterday.
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Personally I would extend the lease if you can.
If you are set on getting rid of it, why buy it out and risk it getting into accident, stolen etc which would potentially lower its value significantly. Also if you buy it then depending on your state, you will need to pay significant sales tax. All this risk for a chance to make a few grand?!

Go take that $60k and dump into Tesla stock or Crypto and you will probably make more in 30 days. Lol
If I could get money out and trade it in, I would do that for sure and not bother. However, if I just return the car, I get $0 back. Dealer is essentially giving me the lease buy out amount. So If i want to take advantage of the possible equity that I have in the car with this crazy market, I need to buy the car for $62k and then try to sell it. Otherwise, I just return it for and just walk away.

What I don't get is that the few places that I had checked out are all coming around the buy out amount, but there's isn't a signle CS for sale under $75000
These take a while to sell. There aren't as many people looking to buy the CS as there are who want the regular M3.

When I sold mine back in July it sat on their lot for about 2 months
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I'm having identical issue. Not sure what my final decision will be about keeping or just tossing keys back but at 17k miles, perfect, w/ CCB's and fresh PS4S, none of the dealer, or reseller site offers make *any* sense. They value CS as a regular M3 and several have even said they'd offer more if it was 6MT

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Market is hot for F80s - 3CSs are a rarity to some degree and many regular F80s are erroneously categorized as CSs. I think it has to do with how BMW assigned the VINs to the car and their production order. Plus I personally think a lot of people are stretching for their M3s right now, because CSs are not far off the price of '18 ZCPs yet they are sitting while $65-70k ZCPs are selling like hot cakes...

Seen a few 3CSs sell lately - $75k w/ 20kish miles is the going rate from dealers... one was even CPO. Hopefully that data point helps. 4CSs seem to be suffering from the 4 series discount, seen quite a few below 3CSs even though they are 1-2 model years newer. M4s in general get hit with an extra depreciation penalty when compared to the M3s in the US.
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Even with 9800 miles? 73k seems lowball even for wholesale. Either way, I'm not giving these fools jack shit for that price. I would rather park it in my garage and stare at it.
Despite how much you feel your car is worth, it's still a depreciating asset that is almost 3 years old. Dealerships have a formula that they use to calculate what they're willing to offer you. They also don't factor in hype and over-inflation that the used car market is going through right now. I'm sure their offer is always going to be advantageous to them but they also have to take on risk from not selling the car and the car sitting on the lot of 6 months.
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They also don't factor in hype and over-inflation that the used car market is going through right now.
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BMW dealer here just sold an '07 Sky Redline for >$19k

And how you explain market adjusted pricing?? They're all about hype and over-inflation, provided it's in their favor. My CS will sit in my garage forever before I let dealer take $30k profit on it. And for those new vehicles being sold at market adjusted prices, will they correct for that in the resale/trade in market? I think not.
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They also don't factor in hype and over-inflation that the used car market is going through right now.
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BMW dealer here just sold an '07 Sky Redline for >$19k

And how you explain market adjusted pricing?? They're all about hype and over-inflation, provided it's in their favor. My CS will sit in my garage forever before I let dealer take $30k profit on it. And for those new vehicles being sold at market adjusted prices, will they correct for that in the resale/trade in market? I think not.
I'm speaking specifically about BMW not considering any over-inflation in their offer for your car. Not the other way around. Like I said in my previous post, they're ALWAYS going to do what's is the best deal for them.
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Even with 9800 miles? 73k seems lowball even for wholesale. Either way, I'm not giving these fools jack shit for that price. I would rather park it in my garage and stare at it.
Despite how much you feel your car is worth, it's still a depreciating asset that is almost 3 years old. Dealerships have a formula that they use to calculate what they're willing to offer you. They also don't factor in hype and over-inflation that the used car market is going through right now. I'm sure their offer is always going to be advantageous to them but they also have to take on risk from not selling the car and the car sitting on the lot of 6 months.
I get that, however, Lauderdale BMW used/new inventory is 0.0. There's literally nothing in the showroom it's like walking into a Rolex dealer looking for a stainless steel submariner. I would prefer to buy it and let it sit in my garage for a decade before giving it away to these jackoffs who have nothing to sell.
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The COVID days of dealerships paying high amounts for used cars are pretty much over. They quickly realized that they need to be making as much margin per vehicle as possible since inventory is non existent and that includes used cars as well.
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The COVID days of dealerships paying high amounts for used cars are pretty much over. They quickly realized that they need to be making as much margin per vehicle as possible since inventory is non existent and that includes used cars as well.
Screw them. I refuse to give in to these asswipes. I will literally put my CS on blocks in my garage forever and just look at it (perhaps make it an art installation). These pigs won't get my money.
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Screw them. I refuse to give in to these asswipes. I will literally put my CS on blocks in my garage forever and just look at it (perhaps make it an art installation). These pigs won't get my money.
Speaking as someone whos worked in this industry for 15 years... you're taking this a bit too personal...

All three were no hassle offers to buy a highline luxury car off of you with no strings attached. No tire kickers, no negotiating. No paperwork issues.. just done. There's 100% a convivence fee for that. Some people take it, some choose to sell private and get more. No one will say you cant.

The second is... well the dealer needs to make money on you. They're a business. The high end market is VERY volatile right now with signs pointing to the market correcting. There's plenty of data on Camry's and Accords but a good 20k swing on ALL CS models (M3 and M4). Any dealer will be on the lower end of this range due to this right now.

Finally... all of us CS (and to a degree.. all F8X owners) need to come down to earth sometimes.. its an M3/4. An overpriced one at that. Some of us got great deals leasing or buying them for around 80k~ when BMW realized they weren't worth six figures. Some paid sticker. I love my CS and want nothing more than it to skyrocket in value but my experience tells me that wont happen (at least for some time, if at all).

I said this earlier and I stand by it.. 73k is a solid trade offer on that car, id be happy if you got 75-78k for it private. Of course there's nothing wrong with keeping it too!

I'll get off my soapbox now.
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100%, Carvana is still going strong in the Southeast though lol
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Screw them. I refuse to give in to these asswipes. I will literally put my CS on blocks in my garage forever and just look at it (perhaps make it an art installation). These pigs won't get my money.
Yikes. Who hurt you? Why are you taking this so personally?

Like others have said, no one is forcing you to sell to them. If you don't like their offer then go and sell it yourself on the private market.

Pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered. That applies equally to dealerships and private sellers.
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Screw them. I refuse to give in to these asswipes. I will literally put my CS on blocks in my garage forever and just look at it (perhaps make it an art installation). These pigs won't get my money.
Yikes. Who hurt you? Why are you taking this so personally?

Like others have said, no one is forcing you to sell to them. If you don't like their offer then go and sell it yourself on the private market.

Pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered. That applies equally to dealerships and private sellers.
If you're in East Fort Lauderdale be on the lookout for the cities newest public art installation in San Marino Blue.
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