Anyone else get banned from the G8X section for making fun of its looks?

[mzcp]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Thanks G! She has come a long way and is 75% complete. Once my seats arrive I will be done modding and I’ll just enjoy the drive. It took five big/major mods to get me to that happy place.

Did you guys remove the option from your vehicle order or increase the speed limit for your Aero wing coding? It looks like you Auto coded a few modules (BCM, Kombi etc.). I am glad you did not wait for the other "Official Porsche Partner" to code your car. 😀

[Humdizzle]

interesting take by Cammisa on the new Model 3P vs G80 and other sport sedans.

Verdict Tesla Model 3 Performance: We Have a Problem.

I know you don’t want to hear this:

Regular Model 3 buyer no longer has to make excuses for its craptastic interior.

Model 3 Performance no longer has to make excuses for anything else.

The last one was a good car, but the interior was econo-box, seats were unsupportive, ride was flinty, handling was sketchy, and steering was gainy and overboosted. It’s ALL fixed.

Adaptive shocks and a full tuning rethink give new M3P a luxury sport-sedan ride: beautiful body control, no harshness. Big suspension moves are one-and-done. It’s (gasp) perfect.

The steering is quick but not uncomfortably so. Front end is incredibly responsive w lots of high-frequency road texture coming through. Feels v rigid.

Sport seats (finally!) are phenomenal: Volvo supple, Recaro supportive. Make the BMW M3’s rock-hard carbon shells feel absurd.

BMW M3 is no longer the sports-sedan benchmark. The 3er has been luxo-fied and efficiency-focused to the point that there’s no real involvement, just added-back-in digital amelioration. You’re left with a laggy powertrain that, with an automatic, works well enough…

…until you spend time in an EV, which has no gears, no lag, and no waiting.

I recorded a 3.04-second 0-60 with 2 on board and 88% SoC. Tesla’s claim of 2.9s is legit. Violent off the line, does NOT relent at high speeds. Significantly quicker than the last M3P, esp at high speeds. 510 hp, 547 lb-ft, 4th gen rear motor gives rear bias of 70-85% power.

Didn’t get to play with limit handling (yet) but on one slide, the steering went numb. Looking forward to a track drive, but I’m not sure that’s even necessary.

Since all the “performance sedans” have gotten so clinical, there’s no real experience left. What matters most is how well they do regular commuter use with occasional back-roads stuff.

Not sports car that’ll get you out of bed early, but if you choose to take the long way home from work, it’s effing brilliant.

Listen to the Carmudgeon Show podcast for an hour long discussion.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Jockey

My N54 135i was still one of my favorite cars ever

The N54 was SOLID. Massively overbuilt and boost happy.

Originally Posted by mzcp

Did you guys remove the option from your vehicle order or increase the speed limit for your Aero wing coding? It looks like you Auto coded a few modules (BCM, Kombi etc.). I am glad you did not wait for the other "Official Porsche Partner" to code your car. 😀

We checked the AeroKit option in the PIWIS3 drop-down menu and deactivated the brake light on the wing (…so the car wouldn’t register the open circuit). We did have to auto code BCM1, BCM2 and Kombi. While I had no problem going to Gaudin Porsche or my OPP ( ), my buddy was available short notice and he’s going to code my carbon fiber lightweight buckets from the GT3.

[cotmfk]

Originally Posted by Humdizzle

interesting take by Cammisa on the new Model 3P vs G80 and other sport sedans.

They nailed it. And this is coming from an "EV hater." The sound is still missing. The manual shifts are missing. There is nothing they can do for either of those two aspects. Will I buy one? Probably not. But I still think they did a great job with it.

But the reviewer is also right, IMO, about how "clinical" some of these modern cars are. My grandma could do the same 1/4 mile times as a pro racer. It's ridiculous. There is no engagement, no drama, no skill required.

[W///]

Originally Posted by GrussGott

My opinion doesn't matter for lots of reasons, mostly because I only have long term performance experience with the e9x & f8x. I've driven a ton of others, but thats not enough to judge.

With that, the e9x is the most fun I've ever had with a car

One thing I'll never forget in my life is the first time I started the S65 at the Performance Center and just sat there listening to it idle. It felt SO exotic and you could scarcely believe it in a car like an M3.

Add to the fact that I think the E9x M3 is really good at a lot of things: Seats were great, engine was fun, ride was great, looks to kill. Really the only complaint I have is the brakes are significantly worse than the F8x/G8x.

I've owned mine since 2012 and it's currently sitting at 94k miles. It barely gets driven these days due to needing maintenance, but I could never picture selling it.