KW Clubsport Review

[Curt2000]

Originally Posted by CAOZKAN

Thanks for the great review! I'm having mine next month, can't wait for them! I ordered CS 2way. What's the minimum drop? Are you using stock tires? Do you think would it rub with my setup of tires with the rears in the front (275/35/19) and 295/35/19 star specs? I have two sets of 295/35s I don't want them to be wasted

Not at all, you can actually raise the ride height above stock with the CSs, the stock tires have a really conservative offset so adding a larger tire will still be safe...add spacers and its a different story though.

Originally Posted by BMW9

I ordered the V3s because I've read many comments on how stiff CS are for the street. I should have gone for test rides because this is very subjective and also depends on the widely adjustable range of the suspension.
Since you've had both I wanted to ask are the club sports in their softest setting comparable (in dampening) to the V3 in their hardest setting? I know the CS is much sharper because the bushing are removed. But is there still any comparison?

Since the V3s re-use the rubber pillow mounts from the OEM suspension their comfort level is very comparable to stock. The clubsports are metal to metal mount so you get a lot more feedback. You can adjust the dampening to make the ride comfortable but it will never be as cushioned as the OEM/V3s

[Oreganoflow]

Originally Posted by Curt2000

Since the 3-ways re-use the rubber pillow mounts from the OEM suspension their comfort level is very comparable to stock. The clubsports are metal to metal mount so you get a lot more feedback. You can adjust the dampening to make the ride comfortable but it will never be as cushioned as the OEM/V3s

wait, the clubsport 3way reuses rubber pillow mounts or the v3's?

[Curt2000]

Originally Posted by Oreganoflow

wait, the clubsport 3way reuses rubber pillow mounts or the v3's?

Oops I meant V3, sorry!

[Curt2000]

Still loving my Clubsports!

[Curt2000]

Just realized KW has electronically adjustable height control modules that will work for F80 sooooo tempting!

[gavinsan]

awesome glad you love the KW clubsports

How do the 3 way feel over the 2 way clubsports ? apart from the extra adjustability any more quality to thedamping / components used

[4everkidd]

Originally Posted by Curt2000

Still loving my Clubsports!

How are the CS's holding up? I'm between the V3 and CS right now and have read all of the threads in this section.

Have you had any issues with the spherical bearings? There seems to be atleast 4 members on our forums that have. (associated with a knock)

As previously asked have you tried them on the softest setting? If so was the ride fairly compliant or still very track oriented?

I have a feeling the V3 is the best option for me as the roads in my area are terrible (dramatic freeze and thaw delta) and I will only track the car a couple times a year.

[gonoyaro11]

Originally Posted by 4everkidd

How are the CS's holding up? I'm between the V3 and CS right now and have read all of the threads in this section.

Have you had any issues with the spherical bearings? There seems to be atleast 4 members on our forums that have. (associated with a knock)

As previously asked have you tried them on the softest setting? If so was the ride fairly compliant or still very track oriented?

I have a feeling the V3 is the best option for me as the roads in my area are terrible (dramatic freeze and thaw delta) and I will only track the car a couple times a year.

The CS is still really stiff on street even the softest setting. You should get V3 not CS.

[edwinm3]

Originally Posted by basara078

The CS is still really stiff on street even the softest setting. You should get V3 not CS.

CS are in fact stiffer but not that bad, makes the car handle better. V3's are kinda OEM feel, great for the street. I had V3's and switched to CS, so much better, I do track.

[CAOZKAN]

Originally Posted by 4everkidd

How are the CS's holding up? I'm between the V3 and CS right now and have read all of the threads in this section.

Have you had any issues with the spherical bearings? There seems to be atleast 4 members on our forums that have. (associated with a knock)

As previously asked have you tried them on the softest setting? If so was the ride fairly compliant or still very track oriented?

I have a feeling the V3 is the best option for me as the roads in my area are terrible (dramatic freeze and thaw delta) and I will only track the car a couple times a year.

I own CS 2way and so far I'm very positive about them. They feel much more secure and less jerky on high speed and about the comfort level, my settings are at medium level and it's not that harsh as I expected and scared from other people's comments, it's a bit harsher than the edc sport setting. Moreover in my area roads are horrible as well but so far I'm very happy with my choice, can't wait to track them.

[M4 CSL]

Originally Posted by Curt2000

575F 800R

Hi Curt, Great write up as usual.

KW CS now have a stronger spring rate option.

628F 1028R I have gone for that option. Should be installed in two weeks.

Everyone thinks I am a crazyman, but thats not that much stiffer than the originals. I am also comforted by Ohlins road and track being 1300 in the rear.

[TRZ06]

Originally Posted by M4 CSL

Hi Curt, Great write up as usual.

KW CS now have a stronger spring rate option.

628F 1028R I have gone for that option. Should be installed in two weeks.

Everyone thinks I am a crazyman, but thats not that much stiffer than the originals. I am also comforted by Ohlins road and track being 1300 in the rear.

Do not take any comfort in that. Ohlin blotched the spring rate in the rear. Is it very abrupt at the end of the rebound stroke on bigger bumps.


It lifts you out of your seat and will invoke the traction control system.

I have changed them to the 900lb M2 kit and it is so much better.

The 1300lb spring only belongs on smooth roads.

[M4 CSL]

Originally Posted by TRZ06

Do not take any comfort in that. Ohlin blotched the spring rate in the rear. Is it very abrupt at the end of the rebound stroke on bigger bumps.


It lifts you out of your seat and will invoke the traction control system.

I have changed them to the 900lb M2 kit and it is so much better.

The 1300lb spring only belongs on smooth roads.

Very Little Difference between 900 and 1000. (900 to 1300 is quite a bit)

KW has offered the stiffer option for a reason. I will give it a go.

Pretty confident I will like it. I'll let you know.

[Irma the imola red M4]

Originally Posted by M4 CSL

Very Little Difference between 900 and 1000. (900 to 1300 is quite a bit)

KW has offered the stiffer option for a reason. I will give it a go.

Pretty confident I will like it. I'll let you know.

So let us know please ?
Also anyone knwo if we are able to choose alternate spring lengths as well as two optional spring rates. Thx

[M3ZCPNYC]

Would I need the cancellation kit if I have a JB4 which clears codes for me?

[Justin.AutoTalent]

Originally Posted by M3ZCPNYC

Would I need the cancellation kit if I have a JB4 which clears codes for me?

JB4 does not the chassis code

[M3ZCPNYC]

Originally Posted by Justin.AutoTalent

JB4 does not the chassis code

thank you

[MPOOR]

welcome to the KW CS ~~~~! I love mine ~ still works like a charm. Soon I need to prepare mine for a shock fluid overhaul~ too bad I need to send them in to Germany ~

[hellokitty]

Would the 2 way CS be unbearable for a street daily driver?

[deli333]

how is it unbearable on the street? I thought softening rebound for low speed and finding a good balance of compression for the high speed-low speed would be the perfect combination.

Can someone enlighten me?

I had ac schnitzer rs and my problem was it was perfect for high speeds but then too harsh for low speeds. So I was thinking low speed rebound would sort me out.

I now have kw ddc, again I just use sport setting. Comfort and sport plus not so good.

[E92inSG]

I use CS-2 way for daily street driving and once a month tracking (competitive) and have no issues with the comfort. this is also on full bucket seats.

I run compression 10-12 clicks from full hard daily, and 1-2 clicks from full hard for track. I leave rebound settings on track settings as that doesn't really affect comfort.