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      05-18-2021, 08:40 PM   #7525
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Update from my dealership:

They have cars at the port that can't be sold due to the missing chip(s) for the power seats, etc., so it's possible that my car would be built and shipped without the chip(s) and sit at the port awhile......thus, extending my delivery date. I suppose I won't mind a little extra time to prepare for its arrival, but I hope the chip setback doesn't mean something like 3-6 months (...effectively pushing delivery to Mar-June of next year).
That is funny but sad at the same time.

Forgot who said it but I did read that seats were the main cause of delays. Which is... dumb.
I wonder if the fact I only optioned the 4-way seats with manual fore/aft sliding will make my potential chip issue easier?!?!
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I wonder if the fact I only optioned the 4-way seats with manual fore/aft sliding will make my potential chip issue easier?!?!
I doubt it because there are chips in all of them from what I know. Just depending on how complicated they are lol
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Just got word from my dealer, my new car is on the Siem-Cicero with an ETA of May 20th in Halifax. He said I should expect a mid-June delivery
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Just got word from my dealer, my new car is on the Siem-Cicero with an ETA of May 20th in Halifax. He said I should expect a mid-June delivery
Sweeeeet! How long from V070 to completion and on the ship?
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Sweeeeet! How long from V070 to completion and on the ship?
Not quite sure what that status means, but I put my deposit down on October-20th for a June production for a July ED. In late February, I asked my dealer if he could get me an earlier allocation given that we decided not to do ED in the current context. On March 1st, he confirmed an allocation for a May production. My build locked on April 2nd and completed production on May 11th.
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Here are pictures - to each his own, but if I had a limited budget, there are much better spends than covering these two in leather... Alas, each 911 is unique so have at it!

edit: and yes, the Burmester rocks...
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Not quite sure what that status means, but I put my deposit down on October-20th for a June production for a July ED. In late February, I asked my dealer if he could get me an earlier allocation given that we decided not to do ED in the current context. On March 1st, he confirmed an allocation for a May production. My build locked on April 2nd and completed production on May 11th.
V070 is when you ask the dealership for an allocation, that is generally how it starts. V200 is when you officially get your allocation and build time.

So your V200 should be June date something something.
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Here are pictures - to each his own, but if I had a limited budget, there are much better spends than covering these two in leather... Alas, each 911 is unique so have at it!
Good looking interior.

I get what you're saying about it not being visible from the driver's position, but while admiring the interior it'll be seen. Who knows!?! I still have time to remove it, but +/- $500 isn't going to change my payment much. I definitely wouldn't pay $390 for a leather cup holder or $190 for colored Porsche crests on the wheels. Alas, some people do.
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Here are pictures - to each his own, but if I had a limited budget, there are much better spends than covering these two in leather... Alas, each 911 is unique so have at it!

edit: and yes, the Burmester rocks...
I regret not getting Burmester on our GTS.

Bose is okay if you click the option to have the sound be flat.
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edit: and yes, the Burmester rocks...
So on a cost basis you're actually driving a 2021 Burmester w/ the 911 option ...
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Update from my dealership:

They have cars at the port that can't be sold due to the missing chip(s) for the power seats, etc., so it's possible that my car would be built and shipped without the chip(s) and sit at the port awhile......thus, extending my delivery date. I suppose I won't mind a little extra time to prepare for its arrival, but I hope the chip setback doesn't mean something like 3-6 months (...effectively pushing delivery to Mar-June of next year).
That is funny but sad at the same time.

Forgot who said it but I did read that seats were the main cause of delays. Which is... dumb.
I wonder if the fact I only optioned the 4-way seats with manual fore/aft sliding will make my potential chip issue easier?!?!
It will. Apparently 4-ways aren't impacted like the 14/18 ways are. Part of the reason I optioned 4-ways (mixed with the fact that I did not like the 18 ways on my body and they weigh like 80lbs extra each).

The other thing holding cars at port are the TPMS sensors are on back order (but that should let you in next month or two)
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Update from my dealership:

They have cars at the port that can't be sold due to the missing chip(s) for the power seats, etc., so it's possible that my car would be built and shipped without the chip(s) and sit at the port awhile......thus, extending my delivery date. I suppose I won't mind a little extra time to prepare for its arrival, but I hope the chip setback doesn't mean something like 3-6 months (...effectively pushing delivery to Mar-June of next year).
That is funny but sad at the same time.

Forgot who said it but I did read that seats were the main cause of delays. Which is... dumb.
I wonder if the fact I only optioned the 4-way seats with manual fore/aft sliding will make my potential chip issue easier?!?!
It will. Apparently 4-ways aren't impacted like the 14/18 ways are. Part of the reason I optioned 4-ways (mixed with the fact that I did not like the 18 ways on my body and they way like 80lbs extra each).

The other thing holding cars at port are the TPMS sensors are on back order (but that should let you in next month or two)
That's good to know. I just want my baby here by Christmas.
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Agree, here's a photo of all the front ends. The transitions from E30 to F80 are all very gradual in their design, most of it is mainly just width rather than height, but then you have the G8X which is just too radical.

I see it differently. All the M3 had the front divided into two parts. The top part with the grid in the center, and at the bottom a rectangular opening for radiators.
The new has none of that.
In addition, BMW argues that the new grille will seek the legacy of older bmw's. But the M3 never had a vertical grille across the entire height of the bumper.
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Part of the reason I optioned 4-ways (mixed with the fact that I did not like the 18 ways on my body and they weigh like 80lbs extra each).
So the 4-way seats have negative weight ? The full 18-way seats weigh 60~65lb each .

Another datapoint, the lightweight package that substitutes the 18-way for the even lighter CF buckets seats, deletes the rear seats all together, adds the lightweight glass and deletes sound deadening saves a total 66lb on the TT-S.

According to my research, the weight penalty of the 18-way vs the 4-way seats is 10~15lb per seat.
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Wish the CF buckets and rear seat delete were an option on the C2S as well.
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Wish the CF buckets and rear seat delete were an option on the C2S as well.
Might be on the GTS if they ever decide to release the damn thing.

I think folding buckets in Europe were an option for the 991 Carrera S as well as the GTS. And LWBs on the Carrera T.
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Part of the reason I optioned 4-ways (mixed with the fact that I did not like the 18 ways on my body and they weigh like 80lbs extra each).
So the 4-way seats have negative weight ? The full 18-way seats weigh 60~65lb each .

Another datapoint, the lightweight package that substitutes the 18-way for the even lighter CF buckets seats, deletes the rear seats all together, adds the lightweight glass and deletes sound deadening saves a total 66lb on the TT-S.

According to my research, the weight penalty of the 18-way vs the 4-way seats is 10~15lb per seat.
I personally did option the 18-way seats but I have the PCCBs in, so I should be net positive when it comes to weight.

Probably will do something exhaust wise to cut some more, maybe FI-Rs again.

I will cross that bridge when I get to it though.
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In other news, 8er Powertrain Mule/CSL prototype was spotted (unconfirmed if official model). Can also hear what sounds like a modified I6 at the three minute mark in the video.

I wonder if BMW will try and use any of this tech on the G8X when it comes time for a possible CSL/GTS (if it does happen). Hopefully they don't make a M8 CSL, its a bit sacrilege to have a 4,000 pound luxe coupe wearing the CSL moniker.


Also that AMG Hypercar at the beginning
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Part of the reason I optioned 4-ways (mixed with the fact that I did not like the 18 ways on my body and they weigh like 80lbs extra each).
So the 4-way seats have negative weight ? The full 18-way seats weigh 60~65lb each .

Another datapoint, the lightweight package that substitutes the 18-way for the even lighter CF buckets seats, deletes the rear seats all together, adds the lightweight glass and deletes sound deadening saves a total 66lb on the TT-S.

According to my research, the weight penalty of the 18-way vs the 4-way seats is 10~15lb per seat.
Sorry, I was using imprecise language while typing in a hurry. My understanding is that between the two seats together you save roughly ~80lbs not each, but I have also read that it may be closer to ~50-60lbs together and now you are saying roughly 20-30lbs. Who knows, all I know is that it's just lighter. Just for clarity, that isn't the reason I got them (as I mentioned In my first post about the 18-ways that it's the way I got into the seats and how they felt on me that I didn't like), it's just a bonus for those who care.

Didn't mean to offend you, my bad.

Edit: Just found a 718 thread where the weight of the 18way sport plus seats is 127lbs between the two and the 2-ways were 86lbs between the two. Given the 911 seats are different/bigger, wonder if the net difference with the 4-way is smaller or bigger. Either way my original number was off, but got curious.
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Part of the reason I optioned 4-ways (mixed with the fact that I did not like the 18 ways on my body and they weigh like 80lbs extra each).
So the 4-way seats have negative weight ? The full 18-way seats weigh 60~65lb each .

Another datapoint, the lightweight package that substitutes the 18-way for the even lighter CF buckets seats, deletes the rear seats all together, adds the lightweight glass and deletes sound deadening saves a total 66lb on the TT-S.

According to my research, the weight penalty of the 18-way vs the 4-way seats is 10~15lb per seat.
Sorry, I was using imprecise language while typing in a hurry. My understanding is that between the two seats together you save roughly ~80lbs not each, but I have also read that it may be closer to ~50-60lbs together and now you are saying roughly 20-30lbs. Who knows, all I know is that it's just lighter. Just for clarity, that isn't the reason I got them (as I mentioned In my first post about the 18-ways that it's the way I got into the seats and how they felt on me that I didn't like), it's just a bonus for those who care.

Didn't mean to offend you, my bad.

Edit: Just found a 718 thread where the weight of the 18way sport plus seats is 127lbs between the two and the 2-ways were 86lbs between the two. Given the 911 seats are different/bigger, wonder if the net difference with the 4-way is smaller or bigger. Either way my original number was off, but got curious.
Lighter is better for sure. I've never tried the 18-way, but I did try the 12-way. The 4-ways are fine. I never really adjusted seats in my M's and my 2011.5 ZCP had the manual sliding/power reclining seats (...essentially the 4-ways with power lumbar/bolsters).
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The issue for me is the 4way don’t have adjustable side bolsters - only the 18way do. That was a must have for me.

The 14 way offer lack of sufficient support and not “sporty” enough for me.
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I would take the G8X all day over that. While most feel the M3/M4 has gone backwards in design since the F8X, I feel that about the 2 Series. This new design doesn't whet my palate at all.
Not sure how you can say that at this time with such conviction? When the first G8x spy shots just came out and the design heavily panned, G8x fans said to hold judgement until official revealment and we see the whole car. Shouldn't the G42 be afforded the same consideration?

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