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      06-20-2018, 01:14 PM   #111
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I was mostly not serious about poking fun about the test mule's appearance, but I do have a serious gripe about all this.

Starting with the stupid decision to take their most iconic car with a 30+ year pedigree and create a M3 and an M4, we now have such dilution of trim versions of the same damn model that nothing means anything anymore.

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How about just getting it right the first time FFS

If this is going to be a new F82 trim, then I cant imagine this being anything more than lipstick on a pig. There's just nowhere for it to go.
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      06-20-2018, 01:31 PM   #112
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Guys! It's the M4 R GTS CSL Competition DTM Sports edition!
Jahre grand coupe concept 3
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      06-20-2018, 02:04 PM   #113
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NACA ducts on an M4?!
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      06-20-2018, 09:13 PM   #114
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My guess: a test mule for a new enhanced aero package for the M4 GT4.
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      06-20-2018, 09:33 PM   #115
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If that's indeed an "improved" version of the GTS, it makes me wonder, why?

Theres so much you can do with a chassis that starts life as a 420d. Why bother waste time and money on this thing still? Theres already no where to go in this. Just marketing trying to squeeze as much money as they can out of thin air.

If they want so bad to make a true sports car that has any relevance whatsoever, they know they need to do a dedicated project from the ground up for this to happen and be competitive at all in this segment/ price bracket.
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      06-21-2018, 08:37 AM   #116
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BMW does this just to screw with us on the forum lol
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BMW does this just to screw with us on the forum lol
Fair point - I know that's what I would do
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      06-21-2018, 09:21 AM   #118
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i am going to camo my car and add a huge JDM body hit my car and everyone on this fourm will think I am driving the F80 M3 Jahre GTS CSL LCI 3.0
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Some more pics. I think they are testing some updated aero parts for the M4 GT4. Typically they will do updates throughout the lifecycle of the race car.
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      06-21-2018, 02:14 PM   #120
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Seeing those parts on the car and resulting ground clearance, no way it could be a CSL. The CSL is a trackable street car, not a pure track car like the GT4.
Would be good add one to the GTS for track days, though, providing they give additional downforce and wider stance.
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It is not the first time we see this type of testing by BMW. The aero kit in the OP looks like an evolution of the one seen in 2016: https://www.autoevolution.com/news/b...ks-110545.html
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      06-21-2018, 05:31 PM   #122
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      06-23-2018, 08:10 PM   #123
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those rivets on bodykit reminds me the libertywalk styled m4
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Don’t you think it looks a bit “DIY” for an official development? Also wouldn’t they normally camouflage something like this whilst road testing?
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      06-25-2018, 01:21 PM   #125
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My guess: a test mule for a new enhanced aero package for the M4 GT4.
Or could be this? Certified this year but hasn't made an appearance yet.
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Or could be this? Certified this year but hasn't made an appearance yet.
I doubt. This aero package is way too aggressive for a street car, even if it's primary focus is the track.

If BMW come up with another variant of the DTM edition, this isn' it.
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      06-25-2018, 02:13 PM   #127
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Man, people are brutal here. Do so few people really realize what it means to be a test mule? This is a car they're using to experiment with a bunch of different aero bits (likely more stuff under the skin too). Could be for this car, could be the next generation. It doesn't have to look good, have smooth flowing body lines, fit properly, or not be riveted on. It just needs to perform its function as that what they're testing.

This is indeed at BMW's Nurburgring test center, as I was there last Tuesday and saw it in that parking lot pictured in the OP (along with the new Z4, 3 Series, 8 Series, and a couple of M4 CSs).
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      06-27-2018, 09:23 AM   #128
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It's most likely a BMW prototype for something. There is nobody stupid enough to make custom front fenders and paint them in matte finish without completing the car except the OEM. They will need to do a much better job with vents over the front wheels, too, but the concept is great. It's hard to tell from these pictures if anything meaningful is under the hood/suspension, but if they don't seriously fix MDM and track level traction control nannies, this thing is going to bomb. Needs more rear tire, too, but that's an easy fix. Oh, and the matte paint on a track car is not ideal - chips are nearly impossible to touch up on this car. (How about a nice 600hp twin turbo 4.4L V8, 285mm front/325mm rear tires, and track mode MDM, and a great upgrade program from our current cars at MSRP??) I know Pat would buy one immediately!
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      06-27-2018, 08:09 PM   #129
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With the regular GTS not selling, can you imagine who long this would sit on a showroom floor?
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      06-30-2018, 05:19 AM   #130
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I actually find with camber set accordingly the fronts wore fine, but with a better corner entry the rears will not hook the way you would want even with 305's
Add more rear camber then. And put 315 rears.

In my experience in order to fully make the 275 fronts wear well, you need over 3 degrees of camber, probably around 3.5. That creates all sorts of compromises for a street car, at least for my annual usage pattern.

Fact is that any high performance front engine RWD car with serious track performance can mount a 305 at the front, after all that’s where most of the weight is. GT350, ZL1 can do this. And so could an M3/4 with just minimal rework to the front fenders and geometry.

Put the super wide track wheels for track work, then switch back to the 265’s for daily driving. All I’m asking is for bmw to allow for this possibility in their next design.
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