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      10-15-2018, 03:56 PM   #23
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These rates are ridiculous. Had a quote from a dealer:

82k MSRP
78k Selling Price

12k miles a year
.00147 (MSD 7 Payments)
56% Residual

1284 a month.

Explain to me how the F these prices are even normal.

CRAZY!!!!!!!!!
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harryjfranco I have been shopping lease rates at various NJ dealers the past few weeks and that is about the monthly I keep getting quoted.

Gonna wait and see if anything changes in November but it might be time to explore some Porsche or C63S options at that price point...
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Yea rates are insane right now. I love my M3 but I would never pay $1k+/mo for it.
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These rates are ridiculous. Had a quote from a dealer:

82k MSRP
78k Selling Price

12k miles a year
.00147 (MSD 7 Payments)
56% Residual

1284 a month.

Explain to me how the F these prices are even normal.

CRAZY!!!!!!!!!
I'm paying just under $20 more to finance a 2018 M3 lol

I purchased in NJ just over a month ago. PM me if you would like my dealer's/CA's information. They did an amazing job and got me over 7K in discounts although I qualified for a couple rebates/incentives which helped in my case. I also financed but they might be able to get you a good deal and they have a couple M3s left in stock!
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Just left local PA dealership, looked at a 2018 Avus blue F80 sticker was 83,340

Lease breakdown :

CS : 780

" best deal they could offer "
Sale price : $78,840
MSD: $8500
Cash down : 4500
Payment : $1074.91 with taxes ( PA )
Money factor : .00200 x 2400 = 4.8 percent
Residual: 47,503.80
3 yr - 10k per year
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These rates are ridiculous. Had a quote from a dealer:

82k MSRP
78k Selling Price

12k miles a year
.00147 (MSD 7 Payments)
56% Residual

1284 a month.

Explain to me how the F these prices are even normal.

CRAZY!!!!!!!!!
Is that with no cash to dealer ??
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Just left local PA dealership, looked at a 2018 Avus blue F80 sticker was 83,340

Lease breakdown :

CS : 780

" best deal they could offer "
Sale price : $78,840
MSD: $8500
Cash down : 4500
Payment : $1074.91 with taxes ( PA )
Money factor : .00200 x 2400 = 4.8 percent
Residual: 47,503.80
3 yr - 10k per year
I walked away !
That is terrible. I guess BMW doesn't want to lease any M4s.

My lease is up this summer. If this continues I'm either gonna tell BMW to shove it or buy out my 2016.

NO WAY IN HELL I'm gonna pay hundreds more per month on the same exact car.

BMW is smoking some serious crack!
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These rates are ridiculous. Had a quote from a dealer:

82k MSRP
78k Selling Price

12k miles a year
.00147 (MSD 7 Payments)
56% Residual

1284 a month.

Explain to me how the F these prices are even normal.

CRAZY!!!!!!!!!
I'm paying just under $20 more to finance a 2018 M3 lol

I purchased in NJ just over a month ago. PM me if you would like my dealer's/CA's information. They did an amazing job and got me over 7K in discounts although I qualified for a couple rebates/incentives which helped in my case. I also financed but they might be able to get you a good deal and they have a couple M3s left in stock!
It's leasing that's the issue. The rates suck big time right now.

Financing shouldn't be a problem for any of us with good credit.

I really don't want to buy an M4 when the next model is right around the corner.
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Just left local PA dealership, looked at a 2018 Avus blue F80 sticker was 83,340

Lease breakdown :

CS : 780

" best deal they could offer "
Sale price : $78,840
MSD: $8500
Cash down : 4500
Payment : $1074.91 with taxes ( PA )
Money factor : .00200 x 2400 = 4.8 percent
Residual: 47,503.80
3 yr - 10k per year
I walked away !
That is terrible. I guess BMW doesn't want to lease any M4s.

My lease is up this summer. If this continues I'm either gonna tell BMW to shove it or buy out my 2016.

NO WAY IN HELL I'm gonna pay hundreds more per month on the same exact car.

BMW is smoking some serious crack!
I typed the wrong MSD in that was the first round give or take a few, the new MSD would be Times 7 of the payment, then they lower the price of the car and ask for in back with " cash down " 😂😂😂 I was born in the day time but it wasn't yesterday !
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Just left local PA dealership, looked at a 2018 Avus blue F80 sticker was 83,340

Lease breakdown :

CS : 780

" best deal they could offer "
Sale price : $78,840
MSD: $8500
Cash down : 4500
Payment : $1074.91 with taxes ( PA )
Money factor : .00200 x 2400 = 4.8 percent
Residual: 47,503.80
3 yr - 10k per year
I walked away !
That is terrible. I guess BMW doesn't want to lease any M4s.

My lease is up this summer. If this continues I'm either gonna tell BMW to shove it or buy out my 2016.

NO WAY IN HELL I'm gonna pay hundreds more per month on the same exact car.

BMW is smoking some serious crack!
I typed the wrong MSD in that was the first round give or take a few, the new MSD would be Times 7 of the payment, then they lower the price of the car and ask for in back with " cash down " 😂😂😂 I was born in the day time but it wasn't yesterday !
No worries. I know what MSDs are. We have them on my wife's 340.

BMW did away with them then brought them back to certain "regions" it seems.

Either way. BMW leasing is terrible right now and I might jump ship on both cars when the leases are up this summer.
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Just left local PA dealership, looked at a 2018 Avus blue F80 sticker was 83,340

Lease breakdown :

CS : 780

" best deal they could offer "
Sale price : $78,840
MSD: $8500
Cash down : 4500
Payment : $1074.91 with taxes ( PA )
Money factor : .00200 x 2400 = 4.8 percent
Residual: 47,503.80
3 yr - 10k per year
I walked away !
That is terrible. I guess BMW doesn't want to lease any M4s.

My lease is up this summer. If this continues I'm either gonna tell BMW to shove it or buy out my 2016.

NO WAY IN HELL I'm gonna pay hundreds more per month on the same exact car.

BMW is smoking some serious crack!
I typed the wrong MSD in that was the first round give or take a few, the new MSD would be Times 7 of the payment, then they lower the price of the car and ask for in back with " cash down " 😂😂😂 I was born in the day time but it wasn't yesterday !
No worries. I know what MSDs are. We have them on my wife's 340.

BMW did away with them then brought them back to certain "regions" it seems.

Either way. BMW leasing is terrible right now and I might jump ship on both cars when the leases are up this summer.
C63amg sedan is 779 month base with 6500 down...... maybe I will pay a visit and see what they will do for 2018, not a fan of the facelift of the 19' , coupe is the way to go however on amg
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Just left local PA dealership, looked at a 2018 Avus blue F80 sticker was 83,340

Lease breakdown :

CS : 780

" best deal they could offer "
Sale price : $78,840
MSD: $8500
Cash down : 4500
Payment : $1074.91 with taxes ( PA )
Money factor : .00200 x 2400 = 4.8 percent
Residual: 47,503.80
3 yr - 10k per year
I walked away !
That is terrible. I guess BMW doesn't want to lease any M4s.

My lease is up this summer. If this continues I'm either gonna tell BMW to shove it or buy out my 2016.

NO WAY IN HELL I'm gonna pay hundreds more per month on the same exact car.

BMW is smoking some serious crack!
I typed the wrong MSD in that was the first round give or take a few, the new MSD would be Times 7 of the payment, then they lower the price of the car and ask for in back with " cash down " 😂😂😂 I was born in the day time but it wasn't yesterday !
No worries. I know what MSDs are. We have them on my wife's 340.

BMW did away with them then brought them back to certain "regions" it seems.

Either way. BMW leasing is terrible right now and I might jump ship on both cars when the leases are up this summer.
C63amg sedan is 779 month base with 6500 down...... maybe I will pay a visit and see what they will do for 2018, not a fan of the facelift of the 19' , coupe is the way to go however on amg
I've looked at Merc's but I can't get past. Old man car. Haha
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Hahaha, the coupes aren't that bad !
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There not. And that engine could sway me in the C63 AMG
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Hahaha, the coupes aren't that bad !
There not. And that engine could sway me in the C63 AMG
Autovlog ( YouTube Chanel ) has one as his personal vehicle, he has a lot of in-depth videos on his ownership so far. I will say it's impressive, I'm leaning towards an M series car, I joined this forum to educate and converse with owners. I just turned in a GT-350 so I've had my fun with an 8 😎
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Hahaha, the coupes aren't that bad !
There not. And that engine could sway me in the C63 AMG
Autovlog ( YouTube Chanel ) has one as his personal vehicle, he has a lot of in-depth videos on his ownership so far. I will say it's impressive, I'm leaning towards an M series car, I joined this forum to educate and converse with owners. I just turned in a GT-350 so I've had my fun with an 8 😎
Good luck man. I love my ///M. It's a great car. Just don't love it for $1200 a month
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There not. And that engine could sway me in the C63 AMG
Autovlog ( YouTube Chanel ) has one as his personal vehicle, he has a lot of in-depth videos on his ownership so far. I will say it's impressive, I'm leaning towards an M series car, I joined this forum to educate and converse with owners. I just turned in a GT-350 so I've had my fun with an 8 😎
Good luck man. I love my ///M. It's a great car. Just don't love it for $1200 a month
Thanks brother ! Move to PA and save on those property taxes ! 😜 best choice we ever made ! ( former Howard beach queens resident ) have a good one !
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There not. And that engine could sway me in the C63 AMG
Autovlog ( YouTube Chanel ) has one as his personal vehicle, he has a lot of in-depth videos on his ownership so far. I will say it's impressive, I'm leaning towards an M series car, I joined this forum to educate and converse with owners. I just turned in a GT-350 so I've had my fun with an 8 😎
Good luck man. I love my ///M. It's a great car. Just don't love it for $1200 a month
Thanks brother ! Move to PA and save on those property taxes ! 😜 best choice we ever made ! ( former Howard beach queens resident ) have a good one !
If I could I would man. Taxes here are stupid. Good luck. You'll love the ///M
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Just left local PA dealership, looked at a 2018 Avus blue F80 sticker was 83,340

Lease breakdown :

CS : 780

" best deal they could offer "
Sale price : $78,840
MSD: $8500
Cash down : 4500
Payment : $1074.91 with taxes ( PA )
Money factor : .00200 x 2400 = 4.8 percent
Residual: 47,503.80
3 yr - 10k per year
I walked away !
That is terrible. I guess BMW doesn't want to lease any M4s.

My lease is up this summer. If this continues I'm either gonna tell BMW to shove it or buy out my 2016.

NO WAY IN HELL I'm gonna pay hundreds more per month on the same exact car.

BMW is smoking some serious crack!
I typed the wrong MSD in that was the first round give or take a few, the new MSD would be Times 7 of the payment, then they lower the price of the car and ask for in back with " cash down " I was born in the day time but it wasn't yesterday !
Well, according to your username, you should be able to buy anything! plenty of trees in PA!
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Just left local PA dealership, looked at a 2018 Avus blue F80 sticker was 83,340

Lease breakdown :

CS : 780

" best deal they could offer "
Sale price : $78,840
MSD: $8500
Cash down : 4500
Payment : $1074.91 with taxes ( PA )
Money factor : .00200 x 2400 = 4.8 percent
Residual: 47,503.80
3 yr - 10k per year
I walked away !
That is terrible. I guess BMW doesn't want to lease any M4s.

My lease is up this summer. If this continues I'm either gonna tell BMW to shove it or buy out my 2016.

NO WAY IN HELL I'm gonna pay hundreds more per month on the same exact car.

BMW is smoking some serious crack!
I typed the wrong MSD in that was the first round give or take a few, the new MSD would be Times 7 of the payment, then they lower the price of the car and ask for in back with " cash down " I was born in the day time but it wasn't yesterday !
Well, according to your username, you should be able to buy anything! plenty of trees in PA!
I'm a cheap SOB I negotiate everything and anything, how does ones sustain financial liberties by pissing money away.....

And money grows on pot trees .... 🤘🏻
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I'm thinking dealers are going to have to get very aggressive with deals soon! I can't see them wanting to sit on all these 18MY at the end of the year.

There are over 950 new M3's listed on cars.com
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I'm thinking dealers are going to have to get very aggressive with deals soon! I can't see them wanting to sit on all these 18MY at the end of the year.

There are over 950 new M3's listed on cars.com
I'm sure they will move all of them with $1200+/month payments on an already outgoing model. Anything above 800ish is just too much $$ for an M3 imho.
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