Tire/camber alignment for MPHAS

ss-f82 · 02-07-2021, 03:28 PM

Hello, i just got my MPHAS installed (Low maxed out) on my f82. Now i need to get an alignment. Im on front 19x9.5 et 21(tire 265), rear 19x10.5 et35(tire 285) any recommendation -camber? Help would be appreciated!

bmwmike335 · 02-09-2021, 07:56 PM

I think the max negative camber you can achieve is default - 1 degree in stock set up. Anything more you'll need camber plates... do you have the stock end links front and rear?

How does the ride feel compared to the stock set up?

fanatic1 · 02-09-2021, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by M-428I

Hello, i just got my MPHAS installed (Low maxed out) on my f82. Now i need to get an alignment. Im on front 19x9.5 et 21(tire 265), rear 19x10.5 et35(tire 285) any recommendation -camber? Help would be appreciated!

Great set up, you should post some pics here

What is your goal with alignment? Tire life, performance, time attack, track use etc.

ss-f82 · 02-10-2021, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by fanatic1

Great set up, you should post some pics here

What is your goal with alignment? Tire life, performance, time attack, track use etc.

yea, i just updated the pictures. so i was researching and getting advice from the people who's on MPHAS/KW, i decided to go with -1.8 front -2.3 rear. it looks like for the front you cant really change the camber and rear -2.3 is the max. just for street use. not tracking yet..

ss-f82 · 02-10-2021, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by bmwmike335

I think the max negative camber you can achieve is default - 1 degree in stock set up. Anything more you'll need camber plates... do you have the stock end links front and rear?

How does the ride feel compared to the stock set up?

yea, mines on stock camber plate. they said for the rear -2.3 is the max.
thanks for the reply!

CanAutM3 · 02-14-2021, 05:38 AM

Why so much camber in tne rear

? It will limit your traction.

For reference, my track setup is -2.7 front and -1.6 rear. I tried -1.8 in the rear and was wearing up the inside of my rear tires faster than the outside so I dialed it back to -1.6.

TopJimmy · 02-14-2021, 09:52 AM

If you're on MP-HAS then you can go to your local BMW dealership (or a reputable Indy BMW specialist) and ask for a standard street alignment. You don't want a track setup if this is your DD or you'll wear out your tires quickly.

As our buddy said...if you -camber too much then you just wear out your middles and reduce straight line traction. Your rear tires don't look too tight so you should be able to run them with the least -camber needed, and keep as much tread on the ground.

Also, if you just got your HAS installed then drive around for a month to settle, then readjust. To speed up the settling I went to the airport and did 10 laps to go over about 6-8 speed humps each lap. That spring workout helped settle the springs to their worn-in height quickly. I would do your alignment after you settled the springs. I payed very close attention to match my eccentric bolt positions and keep alignment fairly good during install.

ss-f82 · 02-14-2021, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TopJimmy

If you're on MP-HAS then you can go to your local BMW dealership (or a reputable Indy BMW specialist) and ask for a standard street alignment. You don't want a track setup if this is your DD or you'll wear out your tires quickly.

As our buddy said...if you -camber too much then you just wear out your middles and reduce straight line traction. Your rear tires don't look too tight so you should be able to run them with the least -camber needed, and keep as much tread on the ground.

Also, if you just got your HAS installed then drive around for a month to settle, then readjust. To speed up the settling I went to the airport and did 10 laps to go over about 6-8 speed humps each lap. That spring workout helped settle the springs to their worn-in height quickly. I would do your alignment after you settled the springs. I payed very close attention to match my eccentric bolt positions and keep alignment fairly good during install.

I ended up going with -2 rear camber. That picture is before the adjustment and its prob the angle. Also the rep tire shop recommended to have a - to the max. Since i am not on a stock wheel and its lowered. Thank you for your advice!

ss-f82 · 02-14-2021, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by CanAutM3

Why so much camber in tne rear

? It will limit your traction.

For reference, my track setup is -2.7 front and -1.6 rear. I tried -1.8 in the rear and was wearing up the inside of my rear tires faster than the outside so I dialed it back to -1.6.

They recommend the max which was -2.3ish, but i went with -2. Everyone has diff set up wheels/tires. They said it will be fine. Thank you for the advice tho!

CanAutM3 · 02-14-2021, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by M-428I

They recommend the max which was -2.3ish, but i went with -2. Everyone has diff set up wheels/tires. They said it will be fine. Thank you for the advice tho!

Who's "they" ?

ss-f82 · 02-14-2021, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CanAutM3

Quote:

Originally Posted by M-428I

They recommend the max which was -2.3ish, but i went with -2. Everyone has diff set up wheels/tires. They said it will be fine. Thank you for the advice tho!

Who's "they" ?

The tireshop, and whos on mphas/kw has.

mord4 · 02-18-2021, 10:45 PM

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