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      01-27-2021, 12:48 PM   #1
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Best road feel mod

So i am kind of annoyed with the mechanical vibrations i get from the M4's very stiff chassis but i am underwhelmed with the lack of steering feel and also seat of the pants road feel.

This is my daily but this car is far from a luxury daily so i would rather just put the car to the brink of it's limits in the sporty spectrum.

Basically i am wondering what the single best bang for your buck mod right now that would either:

A) make me feel every road crevice in my steering wheel (probably impossible with shitty electronic steering)

B) Feel every crevice of the road under me
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      01-27-2021, 01:07 PM   #2
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So i am kind of annoyed with the mechanical vibrations i get from the M4's very stiff chassis but i am underwhelmed with the lack of steering feel and also seat of the pants road feel.

This is my daily but this car is far from a luxury daily so i would rather just put the car to the brink of it's limits in the sporty spectrum.

Basically i am wondering what the single best bang for your buck mod right now that would either:

A) make me feel every road crevice in my steering wheel (probably impossible with shitty electronic steering)

B) Feel every crevice of the road under me
So a little confused here. You are annoyed by the stiff chassis and mechanical vibration, but you want to mod to feel every crevice in the road? Throw it in Sport Plus for suspension and steering and see if that helps.
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      01-27-2021, 01:19 PM   #3
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So i am kind of annoyed with the mechanical vibrations i get from the M4's very stiff chassis but i am underwhelmed with the lack of steering feel and also seat of the pants road feel.

This is my daily but this car is far from a luxury daily so i would rather just put the car to the brink of it's limits in the sporty spectrum.

Basically i am wondering what the single best bang for your buck mod right now that would either:

A) make me feel every road crevice in my steering wheel (probably impossible with shitty electronic steering)

B) Feel every crevice of the road under me
So a little confused here. You are annoyed by the stiff chassis and mechanical vibration, but you want to mod to feel every crevice in the road? Throw it in Sport Plus for suspension and steering and see if that helps.
No what i am iterating is the car has alot of feel from it's actual mechanical components, i.e. engine resonance, exhaust resonance, dct power shifts, etc.
But it lacks in feel for the road and surfaces.

Even in sport+ steering feel is non existent and the actual suspension is stiff but doesn't tell you too much about the road.

I want something that relays more information to ne
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      01-27-2021, 01:33 PM   #4
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      01-27-2021, 01:52 PM   #5
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What wheels and tires are you running?
Potenza RE71-R 265 285 on 437's 19's
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      01-27-2021, 05:45 PM   #6
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I think you're asking for something that isn't possible...
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      01-30-2021, 07:04 AM   #7
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Sell the beamer and buy a Lotus.
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      01-30-2021, 07:50 AM   #8
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Maybe take a look into the alternate eps coding for the GTS or CS. You can also look at the tension rod bushings possibly go monoball.

Those will be only minor improvements since this is an electric rack and not hydraulic.
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      01-30-2021, 09:06 AM   #9
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Camber plates, tiny bit of toe out align up front, GTS steering coding, Front thrust arm monoball bushings, rear toe and trailing arms w/ ball joints, cs edc coding or some proper coilovers w/ stiffer springs and more low speed damping, rear diff bushings... tried to list in order of biggest change in feel... you can absolutely transform the feel of the car if you really want to spend the time and money... tires are a factor as well but re71r are up there already as far as feedback... some of the bushings increase NVH more than others you will have to do your research on that, usually a good idea to use ones w/ rubber dust seals for street cars... good luck
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I noticed a significant increase in steering feel when I installed the bilstein B16 damptronic coil overs. If you have EDC, you can get the B6 damptronic shocks and keep your existing springs or combo with eibachs for a mild drop. I'd recommend B16D but it was far too stiff for a street car in my opinion. If you have passive shocks you can get the B6 passive dampers and probably also feel an improvement.
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      02-02-2021, 10:10 AM   #11
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So i am kind of annoyed with the mechanical vibrations i get from the M4's very stiff chassis but i am underwhelmed with the lack of steering feel and also seat of the pants road feel.

This is my daily but this car is far from a luxury daily so i would rather just put the car to the brink of it's limits in the sporty spectrum.

Basically i am wondering what the single best bang for your buck mod right now that would either:

A) make me feel every road crevice in my steering wheel (probably impossible with shitty electronic steering)

B) Feel every crevice of the road under me
Coding the Steering to GTS specs and switching the tension strut (thrust arm) bushings to monoball improved road feel quite a bit for me.

It won't be every crevice in the road, but it will be much better. My car felt like a Camry to me when I first got it. Now it feels a lot more like an M3.
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      02-26-2021, 12:51 PM   #12
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I wanted more steering input and feel on my M4 comp so i decided to change the thrust arm busnings to solid, excentric SPL ones. This made a big difference. yes, more road noice but with increased Castor and the solid bushing you will get a much better steering response as the Camber increase on steering input. The good thing is that you don't have to run with too much Camber setting on the top mounts but you get the same effect once you turn over and braking performance will not be worse either.
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