M3/M4 vs. Tesla Model 3 Performance

[SflBimmer8484]

Originally Posted by nicknaz

Turbo GTO gapping everyone!!!

What did you think?

Seemed Model 3P did a reasonable job on those 60 rolls

Incredible job. Ordering mine the 11/15

[Humdizzle]

I thought the fbo mustang at the end did pretty good. tesla pulled ahead by a car length then mustang flew by like the tesla was standing still on the 40 roll.

looks like they put down 470-480whp. about the same as a stage 1 tune F80.

[nicknaz]

Originally Posted by Humdizzle

I thought the fbo mustang at the end did pretty good. tesla pulled ahead by a car length then mustang flew by like the tesla was standing still on the 40 roll.

looks like they put down 470-480whp. about the same as a stage 1 tune F80.

Camera guy panned to the ctsv and other car setting up for a roll in front of the model 3 and mustang. That wasn’t the mustang magically 4 bus lengths ahead.

Haha.

[doberzus]

Originally Posted by Andrew@ActiveAutowerke

enjoy

Not bad. Stick to the Digs/20/30/40 rolls and the M3P kicks ass. The 60 rolls are not it's strong suit. You have to decide if you prefer gapping from a roll or dig...unless you go for something like 911 Turbo S, 720S, etc, which have both.

That GTO was rapid AF. Then again, it was heavily modded with turbos, drag slicks, and most likely race gas/E85.

Aside from the monster built up GTO, most of those cars did not pass the Tesla until 120MPH+

[SflBimmer8484]

Originally Posted by doberzus

Not bad. Stick to the Digs/20/30/40 rolls and the M3P kicks ass. The 60 rolls are not it's strong suit. You have to decide if you prefer gapping from a roll or dig...unless you go for something like 911 Turbo S, 720S, etc, which have both.

That GTO was rapid AF. Then again, it was heavily modded with turbos, drag slicks, and most likely race gas/E85.

Aside from the monster built up GTO, most of those cars did not pass the Tesla until 120MPH+

The tesla did way better than I thought it would . The "stage 1" m3 vs a tesla model 3 below passed it pretty quick from a 60 roll.

[nicknaz]

Originally Posted by Andrew@ActiveAutowerke

The tesla did way better than I thought it would . The "stage 1" m3 vs a tesla model 3 below passed it pretty quick from a 60 roll.

And it gapped the model 3 on the 40 roll too.

By the way, seems like a pre modded turbo GTO is a $20k used car.

How about just get that so you can dominate the roll racing

[SflBimmer8484]

Originally Posted by nicknaz

And it gapped the model 3 on the 40 roll too.

By the way, seems like a pre modded turbo GTO is a $20k used car.

How about just get that so you can dominate the roll racing

Im good lol . Ordering the car this weekend the production time just switched to 8-10 weeks from 2 weeks. Any comments if fsd is worth it ? Im also leasing.

[nicknaz]

Originally Posted by Andrew@ActiveAutowerke

Im good lol . Ordering the car this weekend the production time just switched to 8-10 weeks from 2 weeks. Any comments if fsd is worth it ? Im also leasing.

As of right now, FSD gets you "smart summon" (gimmick) and navigate on autopilot (nice to have, but the biggest value is the "enhanced autopilot" which is standard now).

I got FSD because i'm planning to keep this thing forever. But if you're leasing, save the $ and skip it

[turboawdfanatic]

Originally Posted by Andrew@ActiveAutowerke

Im good lol . Ordering the car this weekend the production time just switched to 8-10 weeks from 2 weeks. Any comments if fsd is worth it ? Im also leasing.

Nice! If you’re looking for a referral code to use PM me. The performance now comes with grey wheels instead of the silver.

How much does FSD add to the lease? As Nicknaz mentioned FSD at the moment gets you navigate on autopilot, auto lane change, auto park, summon, and the latest computer aka HW3. I don't have FSD. Decided to go with enhanced autopilot which isn’t an option anymore. enhanced is an in between from autopilot and FSD. It was a great option for me because I get everything that’s currently out now...and am skeptical that full autonomous driving will be out before I trade in for a newer car....mostly due to regulatory approval.

I don’t use NOA...prefer to do highway changes myself. Auto lane change is nice to have on long commutes to work and longer road trips. Autopark works pretty good...will get you perfectly centered in parking spots....but it’s slow so I rarely use it. Summon...is more of a party trick right now. I tried smart summon in a relatively empty parking lot and it worked pretty good. When I might actually use it is to be seen. But I use regular summon every time I wash my car when putting on tire dressing. Is it necessary? No...but I do it because I can lol. Getting HW3 is more about future proofing the car. Right now none of the features benefit from the faster processing.

Is it worth getting FSD if you’re leasing? Depends on whether you think any of those features are worth the added monthly.

[SflBimmer8484]

Originally Posted by turboawdfanatic

Nice! If you’re looking for a referral code to use PM me. The performance now comes with grey wheels instead of the silver.

How much does FSD add to the lease? As Nicknaz mentioned FSD at the moment gets you navigate on autopilot, auto lane change, auto park, summon, and the latest computer aka HW3. I don't have FSD. Decided to go with enhanced autopilot which isn’t an option anymore. enhanced is an in between from autopilot and FSD. It was a great option for me because I get everything that’s currently out now...and am skeptical that full autonomous driving will be out before I trade in for a newer car....mostly due to regulatory approval.

I don’t use NOA...prefer to do highway changes myself. Auto lane change is nice to have on long commutes to work and longer road trips. Autopark works pretty good...will get you perfectly centered in parking spots....but it’s slow so I rarely use it. Summon...is more of a party trick right now. I tried smart summon in a relatively empty parking lot and it worked pretty good. When I might actually use it is to be seen. But I use regular summon every time I wash my car when putting on tire dressing. Is it necessary? No...but I do it because I can lol. Getting HW3 is more about future proofing the car. Right now none of the features benefit from the faster processing.

Is it worth getting FSD if you’re leasing? Depends on whether you think any of those features are worth the added monthly.

Its like 95 a month Im basically paying 50% for something I cant keep ( no buy out option) and may not be ready in 3 years. The nerd inside of me wants it but I cant seem to justify it.


Im ordering a white on white Performance with gray wheels.

[ZCD1]

Originally Posted by nicknaz

What did you think?

Seemed Model 3P did a reasonable job on those 60 rolls

I thought it did well overall, and about the way I'd have expected. Pulls immediately, then caught over 110 mph. Perfect powerband for most people's day-to-day driving, in other words...

[doberzus]

Originally Posted by nicknaz

And it gapped the model 3 on the 40 roll too.

By the way, seems like a pre modded turbo GTO is a $20k used car.

How about just get that so you can dominate the roll racing

I don't know about at all the details in that race. I ran a friends 2018 F80 Comp/DCT with M4 GTS transmission tune and a full Remus unresonated race exhaust (2ndary cat delete with stock DPs).

He weighed around 140lbs and I am around 225ish and my TTRS actually was neck and neck from multiple 40 rolls up to 115 with the F80.

We all saw what that M3P *with heavy wheels/tires and a heavier driver did to my TTRS... hard to compare different races as there so many factors at play.

[SflBimmer8484]

Ordered.

[ZCD1]

Originally Posted by Andrew@ActiveAutowerke

Ordered.

Congrats - hope you enjoy it as much as I do mine!

[SflBimmer8484]

Originally Posted by ZCD1

Congrats - hope you enjoy it as much as I do mine!

Thanks man I Appreciate it.


I better love it $860 a month

[doberzus]

Originally Posted by Andrew@ActiveAutowerke

Thanks man I Appreciate it.


I better love it $860 a month

When I was getting mine leases were $770 a month but you HAD to put down $3500+ as drive offs. They did not do zero down leases.

I bought mine but did not get the FSD as that would have been a waste of $6K as I would not use any of those features.

[SflBimmer8484]

Originally Posted by doberzus

When I was getting mine leases were $770 a month but you HAD to put down $3500+ as drive offs. They did not do zero down leases.

I bought mine but did not get the FSD as that would have been a waste of $6K as I would not use any of those features.

My total due at signing is $1883. It Wont allow any less.

[LOW4LYF]

I'm in the same boat. Thinking about to sell my F82 ZCP and lease a Tesla.
Huge bonus are the HOV lanes in the Bay Area.

[wdskukm3]

I got both the Model 3 Performance and the M3. Both have their advantages but the Model 3 is faster because of torque.

[Aaaaaaaaa]

Originally Posted by Andrew@ActiveAutowerke

Thanks man I Appreciate it.


I better love it $860 a month

Yikes that's almost as much as my current F80 lease. How many miles per year is that?

[SflBimmer8484]

Originally Posted by NUTScapes

Yikes that's almost as much as my current F80 lease. How many miles per year is that?

Tesla has 15k a year . I pay 715 with tax for my f80 with 12k but that's with my lease broker deal.



I drove a performance around for the day . I love it I killed about 100 miles of range in maybe 30 to 40 miles .

One thing I did notice was the brakes were horrible. The car had maybe 60 miles on it when I got it and from 70+ the pedal was very hard and wasnt stopping at all. Ill chalk this up to new pads and rotors but man it was a little unsettling when doing 120 mph runs.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/zYbMGXnVCZJQftkR6

[coolmody]

I took delivery of my Model 3 Performance 3 weeks ago. Much of it has already been said in the thread. As a daily it can't be beat. Given the choice when leaving the house, it gets chosen 9 out of 10 times against the M3. It's smoother, faster, and more convenient to live with on a daily basis. The M3 will see heavy track duty, but I hope to get the Model 3 out there to see how well it does. Congrats to Tesla for converting a hardcore BMW fan boy. For those that aren't sure, just go test drive one. The choice is pretty easy after that.