M4 vs A90 Supra

[andres_f82]

Hi guys, new to the forum. I picked a 2018 F82 with 28k miles last year. It now sits at 39k miles. I went to Toyota yesterday, as I was curious about the A90. I was not impressed with the power delivery, the steering and the size of the car. Has anyone done the trade? If so, Are they a better tuning platform than the S55? I have stage 1 bm3 on my otherwise stock M4.

[MJBO]

Originally Posted by andres_f82

I was not impressed with the power delivery, the steering and the size of the car. Has anyone done the trade?

Definitely sounds like you’re keen

[andres_f82]

Originally Posted by MJBO

Definitely sounds like you’re keen

I'd rather grab an m240i if I was gonna downgrade.

[TractionControlDelete]

What do you use the car for? Specifically, when you say tuning platform, can you explain what you'll do with the car after it's tuned? (Suspension tuning only, or drag, or canyon carving, or track, or drifting, or auto cross, or roll racing, or daily, etc… answer changes depending on how your respond)

[andres_f82]

Originally Posted by F82KPowers

What do you use the car for? Specifically, when you say tuning platform, can you explain what you'll do with the car after it's tuned? (Suspension tuning only, or drag, or canyon carving, or track, or drifting, or auto cross, or roll racing, or daily, etc… answer changes depending on how your respond)

It's my weekend car at the moment. Mainly canyon run Sunday drives. Not necessarily for track as there isn't one fairly close to me. Compare the Supra to the M4 as a daily.

[Theruleslawyer]

Im not sure you would gain much moving to it. Certainly not enough to justify selling a relatively recent purchase. Id wait for the manual this summer anyways.

[TractionControlDelete]

Originally Posted by andres_f82

It's my weekend car at the moment. Mainly canyon run Sunday drives. Not necessarily for track as there isn't one fairly close to me. Compare the Supra to the M4 as a daily.

Okay got it. With that being the case, here's my impression based on having owned two different M4 6MT cars across six years; and as far as the Supra, I rented on one on Turo for four days for my birthday last year.

The biggest thing that stood out to me was how much the shorter wheelbase of the A90 affected the driving experience… the car definitely feels like it turns faster than the M4, and as such I had to adjust my steering wheel inputs so the car drove smoothly through the corners. The cabin isn't as quiet as the M4 but I suspect that is a deliberate decision on Toyota's part. I think the A90 would be killer in the canyons because the turn-in is excellent, and it's very maneuverable through the corner transitions. With respect to the A90's power delivery, I found the traction control to be so intrusive that it gives the impression that the power delivery is subpar BUT if you turn it off then I think you'd be impressed by how quick the car actually is.

As a daily though, it's sort of terrible lol - the interior is "feels" smaller than the car looks and because there is no back seat I was forced to use the trunk in situations that I never had to in a M4. The A90 is strictly a sports car IMO and it's just not suited for grocery runs, trips to the mall, and life with more than one friend haha. If it's just a weekend car for you with frequent canyon runs, then I think you'd really like the Supra. Lightweight wheels, some sticky tires, and a mild tune would make the A90 an absolute dream in the canyons.