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      11-06-2013, 02:08 PM   #23
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Wait, is it just me or does the "air breather" on the production car look like that of the standard 4-Series rather than the M4 concept?
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      11-06-2013, 02:12 PM   #24
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This looks great, would definitely be my pick
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      11-06-2013, 02:12 PM   #25
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M3 looks much better in Sakihr orange than M4.
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      11-06-2013, 02:14 PM   #26
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Looks quite ordinary. The concept yellow or mad blue is much better.

Has any car ever looked good with black alloys - No. They spoil a car.
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      11-06-2013, 02:17 PM   #27
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Nice color but still going with the Black Sapphire
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Their design has gone to shit
+1 Thank you. Glad to see not everyone went blind.

Rear headroom looks really bad... looks like how I ride my friends S5, with my head tilted.
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Definitely the color to have. Looks even more aggressive on the F80 M3. Black wheels are a must with that color as well. Those 6/4 CCB's are sexy as hell.
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      11-06-2013, 02:23 PM   #30
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It would probably look better with the performance wheels(style 405)
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      11-06-2013, 02:29 PM   #31
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So far I'm liking the sedan a lot better than the coupe.
+1 and I still think I prefer YMB
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Are those going to be the production wheels?
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      11-06-2013, 02:36 PM   #33
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Car looks a little swollen to me, I understand the dimensions are bigger then the E92 M3, but its not looking so lean and mean... But that could be the camo playing tricks on me
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Are those going to be the production wheels?
Yes.
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      11-06-2013, 02:36 PM   #35
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Their design has gone to shit
Deep down I kind of agree. I try my best to ignore it but at the same time as I want to keep positive with an open mind and adapt to current trends I can't help having this nagging feeling that now might not be a good time to buy a new BMW. They are expanding like crazy with new models everywhere, new technology areas as electric cars and their EPS efforts has not been stellar while the FI engines has seen their share of problems. Cars are becoming more isolated etc, etc. But what do you do when you can't fit the family in a 991 and the Panamera feels too big? BMW was it, noone else except Porsche could compare and I don't find any Audi, Benz or Lexus to my liking or better than the current BMWs, sigh. Enough gloom, the F80 will be awesome, damn it!
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      11-06-2013, 02:39 PM   #36
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I was pretty set on getting a M3 in Sakhir orange since there will be no M4 GC, but after seeing pictures of the M5 vs M6 and now M4, I think the orange really does look a lot better on the coupe for some reason.

Maybe the M3 with a carbon fiber roof will look better than the M5.

I am a little sad the front bumper looks pretty close to the M Sport bumper I have now, was expecting something different, at least give us the black trim around the grills without making it an aftermarket purchase... Should be part of the Black wheel option
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      11-06-2013, 02:42 PM   #37
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      11-06-2013, 02:44 PM   #38
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Looks quite ordinary. The concept yellow or mad blue is much better.

Has any car ever looked good with black alloys - No. They spoil a car.
I beg to differ on the black alloys, have them in the winter and my EBII 335i and I think they look GREAT, and in the past I always hated black wheels...

with a good wheel design and on the right color black alloys do look good and the best part is they don't show the brake dust!
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      11-06-2013, 02:52 PM   #39
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I find it comedy how the forums work.

I've been around forums since i was 13. My first forum was e46 fanatics about 10 years ago. I remember when the E46 got replaced w/ the E9X, the amount of backlash the car received. People hated the design, people criticized the BMW and Chris Bangle for ruining the BMW 3 series. The rear end was controversial, the front end not as bad but people hated the rounded front end look, people hated the lack of fender flares. They ruined the classic E46. Now the cycle is repeating itself to some extent, but consensus on this next generation overall has been better than the E9X arrival, which is a good thing.

At the end of the day, THERE WILL ALWAYS be something newer and believe it or not BETTER. The one thing I will miss the MOST about the outgoing E9X generation is that S65. Something about driving a 3 series M car, w/ a naturally aspirated V8 motor that sounds like an exotic w/ an after market exhaust is truly a joyful driving experience. However, the same engineers (M division) that developed legendary E30s, E36s, E46s, E9X, are now developing the next line up to replace the most famous and most important car to the M division. It is stupid to think BMW is going to let us down, we should know better.

Time will tell however. Lets wait until the final specs are released. I think this car will have more than 430hp, but thats just my opinion even though I read somewhere that the power specs were confirmed. I think it will be around 450-475, and they will offer a comp package later this time worth getting due to a boost upgrade to about 500-525hp.

With car engineering/designing, their is always a balance and compromise that needs to be made. For example, people are critical of the new generation F30's/F80's interiors. I can not emphasize to you guys, how much I hated my E90s interior, the cup holder design was absolutely garbage. With that being said, I do not like the placement location/ and design for the new navigation systems on these new generation 3/4's. Its a balance and compromise, shit cup holder vs. odd looking navigation placement. Another compromise w/ a 4.0L V8 and a 3.0L I6. A car that doesn't get MPG rather has a timer for a fuel gauge (V8) vs. a motor that is supposedly 25% more efficient than the V8. Balance and compromise.

At the end of the day the F80/F30 M, it will be better, it will be faster, it will be nicer, it will be sicker, it will be desirable, and for BMWs sake it will be a revolutionary M car. For those of us in denial its time to wake up. If I had the choice and could afford it, I'd have an E92 and a F80.. Shit I'd have a E46, E36 and E30. They are legendary cars in their own ways (maybe not so much the E36); I've been fortunate enough to grow up around a motor head M family. We have owned 9 M3's in the past 15 years. 2 E36s, 4 E46s, 2 E92s, and my E90. Each generation was significantly different from one another. Some things better and worse in every generation when you compare apples to apples. One thing holds however- every generation that replaced the outgoing one, was SUBSTANTIALLY better overall.

As for the looks, I think the car looks SEXY. Aggressive/MEAN, at the same time elegant and classy. BMW did a great job overall w/ the exterior design. The parts on this latest spotting look more realistic to what will be launched by bmw--- chrome grills, and no CF front lip like on the concept.

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Am I the only one pissed at BMW for making the hood line 6" behind the headlights....i mean i understand why they ended up doing this...crash stuff and manufacturing cost but seriously someone please photoshop a new M3/4 with the cut line in the proper place
Totally agreed. Big pet peeve of mine with the newer cars.
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      11-06-2013, 02:58 PM   #42
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So far I'm liking the sedan a lot better than the coupe.
As am I.
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      11-06-2013, 02:58 PM   #43
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Are these cars now GTR sized cars?
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