Track day pad question, front only or front and rear swap?

[M4J0R T0M]

I’m looking to upgrade the pad compound on my car. I have a track day coming up in August and a trip to the mountains in October and I want some more aggressive braking capabilities. I’m planning on going with Ferodo DA2500 pads but not sure if I need to worry about changing the rear out as well. Do you think it’ll be beneficial or needed or will fronts only be ok?

[drroc]

Ideally you should change both to avoid changing the brake bias due to mismatched pads.

[D_SheerDrivingPleasure]

I would change both and flush the brake system with high temp DOT 4 fluid (Motul or SRF)
Have fun.

[M4J0R T0M]

Makes sense. Thanks for the replies.

[markw10702]

Depending upon which track you are visiting and your driving abilities the DS2500 might be a bit weak for the track. Assuming you run in the Novice class/group? Not trying to be insulting but given the weight of the F80 the DS2500 might not be capable enough.

[M4J0R T0M]

Originally Posted by markw10702

Depending upon which track you are visiting and your driving abilities the DS2500 might be a bit weak for the track. Assuming you run in the Novice class/group? Not trying to be insulting but given the weight of the F80 the DS2500 might not be capable enough.

Good points. Here’s some more info. I’ll be going to AMP in Atlanta in August and hitting the tail of the dragon and Cherohala skyway in October. I’ll be on street tires as well. Michelin PS4’s.

I’ll be in novice instructed group and I’ve got 3 previous track days under my belt. Those previous days were at Barbers in a modded 2015 Mustang GT with factory pads. I never noticed fade on that car when on track and it’s a heavier pig than the F80.

Based on that info which pads would you recommend?

[markw10702]

Review this chart if you are going to stay with Ferodo.

https://pages.ferodoracing.com/produ...ing-brake-pads

I'd get some feedback from people who have run at AMP and what they recommend that works best at that track. The DS2500 is a good dual-purpose pad, but with everything dual-purpose, you usually have to make a compromise somewhere.

[M4J0R T0M]

Originally Posted by markw10702

Review this chart if you are going to stay with Ferodo.

https://pages.ferodoracing.com/produ...ing-brake-pads

I'd get some feedback from people who have run at AMP and what they recommend that works best at that track. The DS2500 is a good dual-purpose pad, but with everything dual-purpose, you usually have to make a compromise somewhere.

I had actually looked at their site and used they to help me decide on the 2500. I was thinking a dual purpose would suit me fine and ferodo is in stock at FCP so I was gonna go that route. I had also considered the hawk 5.0 but they’re out of stock.

My current or pads are in good shape still so I guess I could swap them out for a dedicate track day pad and avoid the compromises, although I don’t know that I could take advantage of a very serious track pad considering I’ll still be running street tires.

[markw10702]

I would doubt the Hawk 5.0 would last an entire day at the track. Street pad only.

The DS2500 will be on the edge but running with street tires you should get through the day.

[M4J0R T0M]

I actually found a good deal on some pfc 08’s on here. Hoping to snag those and I’ll just swap back and forth.

[Suds]

I have PFC 08’s on my M4 that hasn’t been to the track in over a year, so I’m running those on daily driver. Only draw back is some pad squeal and pad slap.
For me they have good cold bite.

Originally Posted by M4J0R T0M

I actually found a good deal on some pfc 08’s on here. Hoping to snag those and I’ll just swap back and forth.

[M4J0R T0M]

Originally Posted by Suds

I have PFC 08’s on my M4 that hasn’t been to the track in over a year, so I’m running those on daily driver. Only draw back is some pad squeal and pad slap.
For me they have good cold bite.

How’s the dusting compared to stock? If it’s not too bad and the squeal isn’t too bad I might daily them as well.

[pilotedecourse]

Originally Posted by M4J0R T0M

How’s the dusting compared to stock? If it’s not too bad and the squeal isn’t too bad I might daily them as well.

Regarding PFC08s, dusting isn't better than stock and, at least to my ears, squeal is pretty bad. I drove them for a week before my last track day and was happy to take them off afterwards but I suppose you could just deal with it until you get through your October mountain drives. Their cold performance is decent and didn't feel sketchy (though the coldest temp I drove them was about 70 degrees so not sure if the same holds true in October depending on where you are).

Were amazing on the track though and proved to be pretty durable running very hot on a 100F day. If you haven't done it before, it's pretty easy to swap pads in and out. Tons of good tutorials online.