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      04-04-2018, 07:51 AM   #551
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Djia futures 500 points south. I honest to coffee think neither Ross or trump has any clue on how trade wars turn out and the markets have just figured this out too so expect sudden freak outs.
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Djia futures 500 points south. I honest to coffee think neither Ross or trump has any clue on how trade wars turn out and the markets have just figured this out too so expect sudden freak outs.
dont tell me you are tired of all the winning so soon Lups.

There is just soooooo much more winning to come.
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But if 80% of the news outlets (alphabet news, papers, etc) are left leaning that's ok?
Other than on Fox news or conservative radio, can you point me to where that statistic is grounded?

Also can we be clear on definitions? Like, what makes a media outlet 'left leaning'? Other than Rush or Hannity saying it is so, why do you belive that say the NYT or WaPo or WSJ is 'left leaning'? Or even CNN?

I know it has become an article of faith on the american right that Fox needs to be way out in batshit right country to 'counterbalance' the liberal media narrative, but other than it being a matter of faith (ie: irrational yet firmly held belief) what makes it so?
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So true. While the uninformed listen to Fox News, I have to go to work and help deal with the truth which is that this is all going to cost jobs - starting right now. It's begun. I have to spend a lot of time on this in the next few weeks.

If more people understood how economics works - politics would be much different. I find myself SMH a lot these days but I don't know what to do about it beyond that. We seem intent to take a great economy - one that is finally lifting wages - and fuck it up.
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dont tell me you are tired of all the winning so soon Lups.

There is just soooooo much more winning to come.
Play nice Myz! I saw that post where you listed all the things you predicted in the predecessor and I didn't want to answer you because after an hour of typing up attempts it still sounded like I was admitting you had been correct.



I can't predict how bigly this will go south. An analyst who I think of as a level headed one just wrote that he is watching the vol today and then tomorrow gives the public his "is it time to panic" post. The worst predictions I've read today is that djia will start sniffing 21k next (I cant read a calendar.) week.

I would bet 500 on the first dude being out already with his own money. He has a history of being a little shit like that.
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So true. While the uninformed listen to Fox News, I have to go to work and help deal with the truth which is that this is all going to cost jobs - starting right now. It's begun. I have to spend a lot of time on this in the next few weeks.

If more people understood how economics works - politics would be much different. I find myself SMH a lot these days but I don't know what to do about it beyond that. We seem intent to take a great economy - one that is finally lifting wages - and fuck it up.
I'm sorry you'll have a rough week, and the quarter is just starting. This one will be rough for almost all industries in the USA, but we all can find solace in thinking ahead: The next guy in the oval who has to clean up this mess will be hated so much you can have a president Ted Nugent after him.
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I'm not unsupportive of making the Chinese play fair (they don't), what worries me is the helter skelter implementation. If Trump actually had a well thought out plan, I'd be all behind it. But, alas, I don't think he has any plans other than watching FOX and wondering if it will be a big mac or a McRib for lunch.
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I'm not unsupportive of making the Chinese play fair (they don't), what worries me is the helter skelter implementation. If Trump actually had a well thought out plan, I'd be all behind it. But, alas, I don't think he has any plans other than watching FOX and wondering if it will be a big mac or a McRib for lunch.
Nobody likes China's shitty way to handle many aspects of trade, there was a mechanism ready to be put in place before trump won which would've curbed their influence and by that reigned them in over a few decades. It was not fast and flamboyant one, even the name was like a tent the native Americans had. Three options were at the table, tpp, status quo, and apparently electing trump and now we are betting on how low will the markets go!

Btw: Any takers on why 50b extra was proposed yesterday by trump? I bet in 20 years some historian tells us the Mueller dude had something to do with it!
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Play nice Myz! I saw that post where you listed all the things you predicted in the predecessor and I didn't want to answer you because after an hour of typing up attempts it still sounded like I was admitting you had been correct.



I can't predict how bigly this will go south. An analyst who I think of as a level headed one just wrote that he is watching the vol today and then tomorrow gives the public his "is it time to panic" post. The worst predictions I've read today is that djia will start sniffing 21k next (I cant read a calendar.) week.

I would bet 500 on the first dude being out already with his own money. He has a history of being a little shit like that.
Yeah, I admit my post was a little 'I told you so....' but meh. Sue me if you don't like it

Anyway, I plan to just ignore most of my investments for the next while. Keep buying on the dollar cost averaging theory and see how it all plays out long term.
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Yeah, I admit my post was a little 'I told you so....' but meh. Sue me if you don't like it

Anyway, I plan to just ignore most of my investments for the next while. Keep buying on the dollar cost averaging theory and see how it all plays out long term.
Haha, Canada won't be effected too harsly thanks to tpp the euro deal and your national debt being on a low level and someone keeps finding oil under the polar bears! If things go sour, you can always keep people busy with infrastructure projects and with moving hq's from the USA across the border. Mind you, trump might slap a tariff on moving companies at some point but that ain't so bad!
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Nobody likes China's shitty way to handle many aspects of trade, there was a mechanism ready to be put in place before trump won which would've curbed their influence and by that reigned them in over a few decades. It was not fast and flamboyant one, even the name was like a tent the native Americans had. Three options were at the table, tpp, status quo, and apparently electing trump and now we are betting on how low will the markets go!

Btw: Any takers on why 50b extra was proposed yesterday by trump? I bet in 20 years some historian tells us the Mueller dude had something to do with it!
TPP would have been the way to go. But people are so damn reactionary.
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TPP would have been the way to go. But people are so damn reactionary.
somewhat amusingly, the 'local' angle on all of this is that the trade war with china is distracting trump's team from their stupid positions on NAFTA.

in recent days (if the rumours/stories are to be believed) team trump has been abandoning some of their long held (and stupid) NAFTA positions because they really want to get the new deal done by April 13-14 (summit of the americas) and they don't want to be distracted from fighting with china as they negotiate with us.

....we'll see how it all plays out but, for the most part, it would seem the canada-mexico strategy has been working out so far (keep negotiating no matter how stupid the american positions are and avoid engaging in too much public mudslinging about those stupid positions)
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Rd, that's the problem, we are sacrificing a lot for a short term high, that'll help to ease the pain of the first strike of the counter measurements.

Tpp was far from perfect because there were no short term win for USA but the long term gains would've been heavily in your basket. I bet all the rest of the signed partners are happy to cut you you since when you come back, they'll have the better position to negotiate from.
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somewhat amusingly, the 'local' angle on all of this is that the trade war with china is distracting trump's team from their stupid positions on NAFTA.

in recent days (if the rumours/stories are to be believed) team trump has been abandoning some of their long held (and stupid) NAFTA positions because they really want to get the new deal done by April 13-14 (summit of the americas) and they don't want to be distracted from fighting with china as they negotiate with us.

....we'll see how it all plays out but, for the most part, it would seem the canada-mexico strategy has been working out so far (keep negotiating no matter how stupid the american positions are and avoid engaging in too much public mudslinging about those stupid positions)
You know what? When I was a young girl, we had this visiting young lecturer, a novice for the novices, a 40 year old young man gave us a lecture about trade deals. I was so taken by it I asked him out for a pint so he could explain more to me and almost every question I asked he started his answer with a solid "I'm not an expert, I'm really just in the coffee boy in the UM (our states department, Ulkoministeriö)".

At some point I asked him how much more coffee runs does he has to do before he'll become an expert and he said he has still about ten years to go since he is such a fast study!

I walked away from that conversation with a profound understanding that this trade shit is very fucking complicated. I keep enjoying conversations on this topic but every time someone like trump says trade wars are easy to win or that yeah, we are very close to signing a trade deal with the UK as he said last time he was around here (or was that the time before that?) I just truly hope duct taping a presidents mouth would be something the secret service has the right to.

I feel sorry for your negotiators tho, especially those of Mexico. They're not only getting the hate for the illegal immigration but also for many industries moving there. If you have to explain basic economics and talk about a wall simultaneously while some Canadians are snorting at the table for the soft wood lumber tariffs, you know you're screwed.
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You know what? When I was a young girl, we had this visiting young lecturer, a novice for the novices, a 40 year old young man gave us a lecture about trade deals. I was so taken by it I asked him out for a pint so he could explain more to me and almost every question I asked he started his answer with a solid "I'm not an expert, I'm really just in the coffee boy in the UM (our states department, Ulkoministeriö)".

At some point I asked him how much more coffee runs does he has to do before he'll become an expert and he said he has still about ten years to go since he is such a fast study!

I walked away from that conversation with a profound understanding that this trade shit is very fucking complicated. I keep enjoying conversations on this topic but every time someone like trump says trade wars are easy to win or that yeah, we are very close to signing a trade deal with the UK as he said last time he was around here (or was that the time before that?) I just truly hope duct taping a presidents mouth would be something the secret service has the right to.

I feel sorry for your negotiators tho, especially those of Mexico. They're not only getting the hate for the illegal immigration but also for many industries moving there. If you have to explain basic economics and talk about a wall simultaneously while some Canadians are snorting at the table for the soft wood lumber tariffs, you know you're screwed.
The economic illiteracy of Trump and most of his key players is quite something.

Anyway, in the meantime lets all enjoy the joy and warmth of Sarah Huckabee Sanders reading the Easter story to some kids.

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The economic illiteracy of Trump and most of his key players is quite something.

Anyway, in the meantime lets all enjoy the joy and warmth of Sarah Huckabee Sanders reading the Easter story to some kids.

Yeah well, and economy and the market are two different universes that circle around each other and all.

Djia is now 110 up. And naturally I'm now more worried than before since there is like normal vol and there is an hour to go.

Trump sees that and thinks he's winning and slaps more sanctions if Mueller farts again. I have no idea what kept the NYSE indexes in check today, and them rising can't be justified by anything.

I'm telling you, that's not how investors act. We even witnessed in the old ssott how we calculate weather in on our bets with brexit.
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You know what? When I was a young girl, we had this visiting young lecturer, a novice for the novices, a 40 year old young man gave us a lecture about trade deals. I was so taken by it I asked him out for a pint so he could explain more to me and almost every question I asked he started his answer with a solid "I'm not an expert, I'm really just in the coffee boy in the UM (our states department, Ulkoministeriö)".
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Fake news! Finland uses the metric system.
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Fake news! Finland uses the metric system.
Not in beer in a pub! You uneducated fool! We measure beer in any way possible!

That was the most confusing thing for me btw, if we forget the way you do street names.

In my English classes I was taught the English units and then taught to translate them to real measuring units. I could do that!

Then we moved to the states, and I complained about the units to my friend and he told me the American system makes more sense!

"an inch is the width of a man's thumb"

"a ft is one feet!"

" a yard is a mans belt"


I'm like...

Yeah, that seems reasonable since I'M NOT A FUCKING MAN AND AM I SUPPOSED TO GO ABOUT MY LIFE MEASURING SHIT ON MEN'S BELTS?"

We had lived there for a year when someone actually told me how your street system works. That thing is solid, do not give that one up, just try to explain to every foreigners that in everything you don't use the same sound logic as with measuring and maybe they'll start trusting their eyes earlier on!
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Not in beer in a pub! You uneducated fool! We measure beer in any way possible!

That was the most confusing thing for me btw, if we forget the way you do street names.

In my English classes I was taught the English units and then taught to translate them to real measuring units. I could do that!

Then we moved to the states, and I complained about the units to my friend and he told me the American system makes more sense!

"an inch is the width of a man's thumb"

"a ft is one feet!"

" a yard is a mans belt"


I'm like...

Yeah, that seems reasonable since I'M NOT A FUCKING MAN AND AM I SUPPOSED TO GO ABOUT MY LIFE MEASURING SHIT ON MEN'S BELTS?"

We had lived there for a year when someone actually told me how your street system works. That thing is solid, do not give that one up, just try to explain to every foreigners that in everything you don't use the same sound logic as with measuring and maybe they'll start trusting their eyes earlier on!
I guess we are like the old soviets, making things confusing on purpose in case the germans invade again. You know the old joke: If you were german, you'd invade France too if you had to eat german food (though I've had some great veal schnitzel in my life). Though if that was really the case, the Irish would invade more countries than the germans.
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I guess we are like the old soviets, making things confusing on purpose in case the germans invade again. You know the old joke: If you were german, you'd invade France too if you had to eat german food (though I've had some great veal schnitzel in my life). Though if that was really the case, the Irish would invade more countries than the germans.
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I insist we start two new categories for awarding posters.

One will be reserved for the usual gg dumps when he calls us out on our shit. I'm not exactly sure how that'll work tho: The man gets more respect for being gg while myz and I agree with him a lot and then go fetch our flame throwers?

We'll work on that.

The second category is easy piecy to win!

Outdo Wes (for the newbies that's F83).

Peloton in Finnish means fearless. As a consumer he took a stance, and I think he totally copied me in this (I'm so fucking original!) but I honestly think that if we are at the point where the soy bean farmers lobbying arm is completely pushed aside when we are talking about china and sanctions, every consumer has to work for all of us with our wallets!

So, lets set a goal of 20 bucks per month. Let's spend 20 bucks more this month on something when the option is a company which is supporting a goal we don't want to stand with.

Then we go back to my seizures: They came back. I have my polished dancing shoes on, but since my friend got the whole dance floor for an hour after the pub closes: If anyone finds a clip of me landing on my ass later on: It was not my fault!

In two hours I have to go dance through a playlist I cant blame anyone else to with a guy who competed in different kind of dancing thingies throughout his life since he was 30.

That sounds all good for me, but one bad ankle, I hate being bad, I hate being thrown around, but he will totally will land me on my ass if i do my usual cocky shit.

Jerry Lee Lewis will be playing. Oh god, we have the floor to us for an hour and I didn't request one waltz or something!

I don't even know how something called square dance works!!!!!

But anyway.

There is a chance I'll be killed by a competitive spirit and a total over estimation on how fit I am tonight.
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I guess we are like the old soviets, making things confusing on purpose in case the germans invade again. You know the old joke: If you were german, you'd invade France too if you had to eat german food (though I've had some great veal schnitzel in my life). Though if that was really the case, the Irish would invade more countries than the germans.
Not kidding with this one: Hakkapeliittas, or rather spare us from hakkapeliittas, (in modern Finnish hakkaa päälle, means guck them up) was in german prayer books till the 50's. "spare us from the hakkapeliitta". The Finns are peloton, fierce!

I swear to god, if that shit and all was about food, there was no fucking chance in hell I was not adopted. My great uncle tasted pizza once and made sure no such shit would ever hit the kitchen again. My own mother was such a bad cook I was starving most of my childhood. Seriously, opting out from eating because the food was that bad. I honest to god remember the first time had a real meal, with flavors on it.

I think I'm hungry since I'm missing the point I started this post for but anyway: Every wave of refugees we get brings along spices. I'd totally die besides my habaneros if the Russians tried to invade us again.

I think I'm missing my mark here but you brought up food! Only milk would have had a stronger response from me!
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How would you know this? Did mommy catch you jerking off to some Big Foot porn ?

Last edited by Lups; 04-04-2018 at 03:51 PM.. Reason: dancing and wriying. (edit 2: i meant writing so i may have to stop writing.
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