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Orange Trump bad. Trump gone. 83 32.30%
Trump Trump-umphant. 88 34.24%
Inclusive 18 7.00%
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      11-06-2019, 05:15 AM   #1805
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Hate to break up the party but guess what Trump is not going to get impeached. Not only that but come 2020 he is going to win again. You know why? Because the Democratic candidates have gone off the deep end. They rather pender to the liberal progressive parasites that are plaguing social media, than actual constituents. No one wants to vote for this clown circus.

So grab a Kleenex and some Tempons mother fuckers because you got 4 more years of MAGA coming at your ass.
Oh, he's definitely going to get impeached.

I assume what you meant to say was that he wouldn't get convicted in the Senate? I'm afraid you're right on that score. Depends on what else comes out of the inquiry, I suppose. I'm not holding my breath.
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soon this will all be a distant memory, just like russian collusion, mueller report, etc. wonder what the next lie the dems and the MSM will try to cling to?
Shhh. This is gold to witness.

Speaking of witness. What will Schiff do when called to testify as a fact witness? Being he and WB Eric had numerous private powwows. So, Eric didn't go to the IG, but goes to Schiff instead?
That's odd.

The security of insulation will cease when Repubs actually have a chance to ask questions. Fan switches on.

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So what are we supposed to be concerned about in that article, and what does it have to do with Trump's impeachment or the Bidens?

That Ukraine was loathe to see someone win the Presidency that is so apparently cozy with Russia should not be a surprise to any thinking human.

Manafort is a proven scumbag, Yanukovych is an even bigger proven scumbag.
It's just information. I leave it to everyone to process things on their own and determine what they think the outcome will be.

I've stated my beliefs.

Let it unfold.

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It's just information. I leave it to everyone to process things on their own and determine what they think the outcome will be.

I've stated my beliefs.

Let it unfold.

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Understood. I'm asking what your takeaway from the article you cited was.
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Of course it is. Who ever claimed otherwise?




There is definitely some questionable phrasing in there, then if you add that phrasing with the testimony being given to Congress, there very well may be something HUGELY wrong with it.




If that makes you feel better. Sure.




For the millionth fucking time - he didn't ask them to investigate corruption, he asked them to investigate the Bidens, specifically. Multiple times in multiple different settings.

He asked Zelensky on the phone call - it's in the "transcript". He asked Ukraine AND China to investigate "the Bidens" on fucking camera from the White House lawn. Testimony is coming out that he did, indeed, position the withholding of aid - to a country that is essentially at war with Russia - on the condition of the starting of that investigation.

And before you start blabbing about the $1.8B again - we know "where it went". Manafort's buddy Yanukovych stole it, that's a big part of why he was forced out of the Presidency in Ukraine. That has nothing to do with the impeachment or the Bidens.
He wanted an investigation that Biden interfere with to be restarted because you know 1.8 billion sort of disappear. It not the investigator fault that someone was involved or interfere with a crime
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Understood. I'm asking what your takeaway from the article you cited was.
My take is that there was a lot of underhanded BS going on at the time and the Biden's and Clinton's continue to show up in the area time and time again. While there may be no there, there, it bears a second look.
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Wasn't opposition research, it was extortion. Ukraine was not going to get the aid they needed unless they did trumps bidding.
I didn't see that in the conversation

btw

https://www.grassley.senate.gov/site...%20FARA%29.pdf

lets break down the conversation

Congratulations on a great victory. We all
watched from the United States and you did a terrific.job. The
way.you came from behind, -somebody who wasn't given much of a
chan�e, and you ended up winning ea�ily. It'� a fantastic
achievement. Congratulations.

(general congratulation on his victory)

[laughter] That's a very good idea. T ·
think your c·ount,ry is very happy about that

(referring to Zal getting calls whenever him or his party wins elections)

Well it 1 s·very nice of you .to say that. I
will say that we do ·a lot for Ukraine. We spend a lot . of effort
and a lot.of time. Much more than the European countries are
·'doing and they should be helping.you more than.they are. Germany
does almost nothing for you. All they do is talk and I think
it's something that you should ·really ask them about. When I.was·
·speaking to Angela Merkel she talks Ukraine, but she ·doesn't do·
anything. A lot of the European countries are the. same way· so I
think it's.something you want to look at but the United States
has been very ·very good to Ukraine. I wouldn't say that it's
reciprocal necessarily because things are happening that are not
good but the United States has been very very
.
good to Ukraine.

(referring to how the other NATO member especially Germany does not honor their obligation and the US has been)

I would like you to do us a favor though
because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a
lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with
this whole si�uation with Ukraine, they s_ay Crowdstrike ... I guess
you have one of your weal thy people... The server, they say
Ukraine has.it� There- are a lot. of things that went on, the·
:whole situation .. I think you 1 re _surrounding yourse·lf with some
of the same people. I .
would like to have the Attorney General
call you or your people and I would like you t� ·get to the
bottom of it�. As you sa� yest�rday, that whole nonsetise ended
with a very poor performance by a man named Robert Mue�le_r, an
incompetent performance-, _but they. say a lot of it started with
Ukraine. Whatever you can do, ·it's very important that· you. do it
if that's possible.

(he wants Ukraine to investigate the shit storm that was 2016 which as I pointed out primarily had to do with the election corruption.)

Good because I· heard you had a prosecutor
who· was very·good and he was shut down and that's really unfair.
_·A lot of people are talking about that, the way they shut your
�ery good prosecutor down and you had some �ery bad people
involved. Mr. Giuliani is a highly respected man. He was the_
mayor bf New York Ci:ty, a great mayor, and I would like him to
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call you. I will ask him to call yoti along with the Attorney·_
·· General.· :Rudy very much knows what's happening and he is a very
capable guy. If you could _speak to him that would be great. The
former ambassador from the United $tates,· the woman., was bad
news �nd th� people she was dealing with in .the Ukraine .were bad
news so I jtist wan� to_let you know that� The ot�er thing,
There's a lot 6f. talk about Biden's son,. that Eiden stopped the
prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so
whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great.
Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if
you ·can look into it ... It sounds horrible to me.

(wanted to make contact with the Prosecutor who Biden had remove to get to the core of what occurring. Biden or his son being involved doesn't prevent someone from wanting to investigate corruption and crap that occurred in Ukraine. His entire statement was accurate and not a form of fabrication of events to smear an opponset, Biden admitted to doing the above and his son company was being actively investigated.)

Well,
·she' s going tO go through some
things. I will. have Mr. Giuliani.give you a call and I _ am. also
going to have.Attorney General Barr call and we will get to· the
bottom of it. I'm sure you will figure it o�t. I heard the
prosecutor was treated very badly and he was a very fa�r
prosecuto_r so good luck with everything. Your. economy is going-·
to get better and bett.er I pre.diet. You have a lot· of a,ssets.
It's a great country. I have many Ukrainian friends, their
incredible ·people.

(trying to further request corperation on an investigation which is require by treaty, mention how the Ukraine economy should improve {since it hit rock bottom due to the lost of Crime and the rapent corruption from the previous administration}

Good. Well., thank you very much and I
appreciate that. I will tell Rudy and Attorney General Barr to.·
call. Thank you. Whenever you would like -to come to the White
House,. feel ·fr�e to call. ·Give us a date and we'll work that.
out. I ·1ook forward to seeing you.

(establishing further friendly ties with the new Ukraine president)

Okay,. ·we can work that ·out. I look forwar·a
to seeing you in Washington and maybe in· Poland bec·ause I think
we are going to be there at that tlme .

(further friendly barter)

Congratulations on· a fantastic job you've
done-. The whole world was watching. I'm not sure it was so much
of an upset but congratulations.

(further nice talk)

So where was do this or else?

and as a reminder

https://www.latimes.com/politics/sto...roshenko-trump

So what your case?
My case is: so much evidence has been unearthed to support my extortion claim, and you are willfully ignoring it. You have extreme emotional investment in seeing Trump found not guilty during a senate trial. If you're OK with turning the presidency into a banana republic dictatorship, I can't help you.
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When the trial starts in the senate, will Trump testify?

Lets face it.....if he testifies, it will be game over. Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out. He will be the least credible defendent ever.
why would a defendant testify; burden of proof lies on prosecution
Absolutely! And seeing how trumps lawyers so desperately tried to keep him from testifying in person to Mueller, I'd be very surprised if he testified in his Senate trial. But then again, Trump will be Trump. His ego may demand that he testify. Which makes sure a conviction and removal from office. He's such a narcissistic liar, I predict he will totally fuck himself over if he testifies.
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Hate to break up the party but guess what Trump is not going to get impeached. Not only that but come 2020 he is going to win again. You know why? Because the Democratic candidates have gone off the deep end. They rather pender to the liberal progressive parasites that are plaguing social media, than actual constituents. No one wants to vote for this clown circus.

So grab a Kleenex and some Tempons mother fuckers because you got 4 more years of MAGA coming at your ass.
OK Boomer.

How did those elections go for the GOP last night?
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Just in Kentucky republicans won 5 of the 6 races, including the AG race went to a R. The gov race is going to recount and weíll have to wait and see how that shakes out. Bevin has not been a popular gov and very disliked as I understand and it being as close as it is should worry many on the left. The sitting gov barely won the primary and made it a photo finish last night.
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Just in Kentucky republicans won 5 of the 6 races, including the AG race went to a R. The gov race is going to recount and we’ll have to wait and see how that shakes out. Bevin has not been a popular gov and very disliked as I understand and it being as close as it is should worry many on the left. The sitting gov barely won the primary and made it a photo finish last night.
I think you meant to go onto the Trump hit or miss thread.

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Just in Kentucky republicans won 5 of the 6 races, including the AG race went to a R. The gov race is going to recount and we’ll have to wait and see how that shakes out. Bevin has not been a popular gov and very disliked as I understand and it being as close as it is should worry many on the left. The sitting gov barely won the primary and made it a photo finish last night.
The biggest welfare state in the country has been ruby red for decades. So keep telling yourself that you are winning. It will help the neuroses.

Why Bevin is unpopular is more important here.
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He wanted an investigation that Biden interfere with to be restarted because you know 1.8 billion sort of disappear. It not the investigator fault that someone was involved or interfere with a crime
How is Yanukovych stealing $1.8B in aid linked to Biden, exactly?
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My take is that there was a lot of underhanded BS going on at the time and the Biden's and Clinton's continue to show up in the area time and time again. While there may be no there, there, it bears a second look.
Underhanded BS that is linked to Biden how?

Yet and still, even if we assume you're correct and there IS probable cause for an investigation, that doesn't nullify the shady (possibly illegal) way that Trump attempted to go about it. Yes?
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How is Yanukovych stealing $1.8B in aid linked to Biden, exactly?
The prosecutor that biden wanted remove was looking into soros ngo, the company biden was involved with, and a Ukrainian bank to research what occured with the money. So Biden threatening to withhold aid unless the remove this prosecutor was him getting involved. Furthermore the replacement prosecutor 'the good one' as biden called him stated the american ambassador told him who he not allow to incestigate
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The biggest welfare state in the country has been ruby red for decades. So keep telling yourself that you are winning. It will help the neuroses.

Why Bevin is unpopular is more important here.
So many of you guys on the left are so angry and insulting, you included. That comes with losing. You now have a President you canít stand and heís getting stuff done that you hate so you display your hatred every way you can. From insults on a website to antifa.
Thatís ok, we know the more pissy you are, the more youíre
devastated by President Trumps accomplishments and the direction heís taking this country.
Ruby red for decades? Kentucky has a long history of voting dem Governors, in fact the the one right before Biven was a dem and served for 2 terms and his son likely just won his fathers former seat. A favorite son in Kentucky.
But youíre right about red when it comes to Presidential elections. The state hasnít voted blue in 20 years for the top office. They voted for Trump in Ď16 and they will again, who just won the gov seat wonít matter in 2020.
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The biggest welfare state in the country has been ruby red for decades. So keep telling yourself that you are winning. It will help the neuroses.

Why Bevin is unpopular is more important here.
If i recall correctly califonria has more people on welfare then the rest of the country.
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The prosecutor that biden wanted remove was looking into soros ngo, the company biden was involved with, and a Ukrainian bank to research what occured with the money. So Biden threatening to withhold aid unless the remove this prosecutor was him getting involved. Furthermore the replacement prosecutor 'the good one' as biden called him stated the american ambassador told him who he not allow to incestigate
Link? What NGO that Biden was involved with?

Soros and Biden managed to hornswaggle the entirety of Western Europe, plus World Bank and the IMG on the false notion that Shokin was worthless? That what you're going with?
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Link? What NGO that Biden was involved with?

Soros and Biden managed to hornswaggle the entirety of Western Europe, plus World Bank and the IMG on the false notion that Shokin was worthless? That what you're going with?
Much rather have Shokin then Muller, now that true worthlessness: )

Never said Biden was link to an NGO i said he was investigating all three, and Joe Biden wasn't involved until he step in to remove the prosecutor who next target for questioning just happen to be Joe Biden son.
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If i recall correctly califonria has more people on welfare then the rest of the country.
Not on a per capita basis. Per capita Kentucky takes more than it contributes. Been a red state forever.
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You have replied to a source backed post with a nonsensical rant full of expletives. Not surprising given you previous inappropriate emotional outbursts. You gonna call me a woman next?

My quality of life is not effected by the next administration. If Trump get re-elected my corporate taxes remain cut and my gross income increases. If not then America can start rebuilding from the disaster that is the Trump administration. My corporate taxes will go up but that's okay. I spend well under my means and I was thriving under Obama with a different tax strategy. Its a win-win. Do you have a win-win scenario?
Yeah see above. And what exactly is the disaster that is Trump? Last I checked it is the democrats that have completely lost their shit.
So your going with the "no I'm not, you are!" argument?
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So many of you guys on the left are so angry and insulting, you included. That comes with losing. You now have a President you canít stand and heís getting stuff done that you hate so you display your hatred every way you can. From insults on a website to antifa.
Thatís ok, we know the more pissy you are, the more youíre
devastated by President Trumps accomplishments and the direction heís taking this country.
Ruby red for decades? Kentucky has a long history of voting dem Governors, in fact the the one right before Biven was a dem and served for 2 terms and his son likely just won his fathers former seat. A favorite son in Kentucky.
But youíre right about red when it comes to Presidential elections. The state hasnít voted blue in 20 years for the top office. They voted for Trump in Ď16 and they will again, who just won the gov seat wonít matter in 2020.
Trumps accomplishments? LOL.
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