Get a 2018 F80 M3 or find something else?

[Padfan9]

I previously had a 2015 M4 and then a 2016 M6. I’ve had an X6 for the past nine months, but I can't handle being away from an M.

I finally found the car I've been looking for - a fully loaded black M3 ZCP including CF rear diffuser, spoiler, front splitters and lip. It's perfect. I always liked the look of the M4 more, but I really need the four doors, and I still like the look of the M3.

Do you think it's a mistake to lease the last M3 before the next generation G80 arrives? Is that a rookie mistake? There is no way I can wait two more years for an M, and I figured the new M3 will cost an S load the first six months its on the market.

Need some advice. Thanks.

[GOLFFRR]

if its what you want and can do it then do it. Live in the now is what I always say.there will always be something new on the horizon.

[TXSoxFan]

I bought a M3 in June. Personally, if the car is what you want at a good price, I'd say go for it. As you say, it'll be at least 15-18 months before it is available here. In addition, I also try to stay away from first model year of a new version as it seems (maybe anecdotally) that there are more issues in year 1. By the time you get past that, the 3 year lease will likely be up. Plus 2 years from now you may not even like the new M3 or have different needs.

[Padfan9]

Originally Posted by CASoxFan

I bought a M3 in June. Personally, if the car is what you want at a good price, I'd say go for it. As you say, it'll be at least 15-18 months before it is available here. In addition, I also try to stay away from first model year of a new version as it seems (maybe anecdotally) that there are more issues in year 1. By the time you get past that, the 3 year lease will likely be up. Plus 2 years from now you may not even like the new M3 or have different needs.

Very true! Do you think paying in the 900s w tax for a 90K msrp M3 with 3k down on a 36 Mo lease is a good deal? Haha

[Padfan9]

Originally Posted by GOLFFRR

if its what you want and can do it then do it. Live in the now is what I always say.there will always be something new on the horizon.

PM'ed you!

[Wmf80]

^ Agreed. Live in the present, I’d buy or lease whichever works for you.

[yaymitch]

I'm biased but just bought a 2018 F80 on the spot because dealer had an Imola Red one and I really like that color. If you like it, buy it.

[khanyam4]

You've already experience what an F8X M is about in 2015. How much different is the experience going to be in 2018 lol. Save yourself some cash and wait for the G80 or better yet some yourself some more cash and get yourself a G T 3. People bounce around in the M circle when what they truely want is a G T 3.

[PhillySpecial]

I always prefer to get the last year of the "old" model over the first year or so of a new generation, for the reasons above. Probably just me, but I'd much rather have a honed version of an existing platform instead of the first year of an unproven platform. Also, I don't love the uncertainty surrounding "will the new M be AWD, RWD, or will there be two models?"

[ntg44]

Every single car purchase I’ve ever made has been stupid, both practically and financially. If I had the chance to do it all over again, I would do the exact same thing. If you like it, and can swing it, buy it!

[Padfan9]

Originally Posted by khanyam4

You've already experience what an F8X M is about in 2015. How much different is the experience going to be in 2018 lol. Save yourself some cash and wait for the G80 or better yet some yourself some more cash and get yourself a G T 3. People bounce around in the M circle when what they truely want is a G T 3.

I've also experienced an M6 and X6, and liked the M4 the best looks wise. Loved my M6 sound and power (800HP). I test drove a C63S for fun and it was pretty amazing but $2,200 per month for $117,000 car. That's a joke....

Porsche has a horrible residual and MF, there's no way. I can't betray M. Ever. Unless I can afford a Ferrari 458 or 488

[cookiesncream]

If I already owned a F8X I wouldn't buy another one. Since the G80 isn't coming out for awhile plus you don't want to purchase the first year production if feasible, I would get a 911 to hold me over in the mean time. Porsche is the only car brand in my opinion that can satisfy the driving experience you get with a M car.

[jmg]

Now's the perfect time to buy because it's the apex of the F8X platform and we all know about apexing - apex late!! Most of the issues have been worked out and BMW has updated it as far as it will be updated. I think the first MY of the G80 is going to have the same growing pains of every other M3 generation. It's nice to be the first, but it's also nice to come in when the G8X gets some upgrades and updates. I'd buy/lease the F80, keep it for 2-3 years, swap or sell and get into the G80 if you are so inclined. I'll probably be doing the same when my F80 is up in a few months.

[Tacoma]

Originally Posted by Padfan9

I finally found the perfect car I've been looking for. I went through a 2015 M4, 2016 M6, now in an X6 for 9 months and couldn't handle being away from an M, so I found a black comp package M3, fully loaded and including CF read diffuser, spoiler, front splitters and lip, it's perfect.... I always liked the look of the M4 more but i really need the four doors and I still like the look of the M3. Do you think it's a mistake to lease the last M3 before the new change? Is that a rookie mistake? There is no way I can wait two more years for an M and I figured getting the first 6 months orders in for the new M3 will cost a S load. Need some advice..... thanks.

So... in the past 3 years since 2015, you've gone through 3 cars (M4, M6, X6), is that right? If yes, then why break the trend... by all means get that 2018 M3 CP now and maybe the 2019 M4 CS next year and then you're good to go for the 2020 G80 and then the 2021 G82, etc. The search for perfection never ends.

[Flacht3]

Originally Posted by khanyam4

You've already experience what an F8X M is about in 2015. How much different is the experience going to be in 2018 lol. Save yourself some cash and wait for the G80 or better yet some yourself some more cash and get yourself a G T 3. People bounce around in the M circle when what they truely want is a G T 3.

Is a G T 3 the same thing as a GT3? /sarcasm

I really don't see the GT3 as a direct, natural upgrade from an F8X. They serve completely different needs. Much harder to use a GT3 as a daily driver. Ive used my F8X for moving (sneaky spacious with the seats down), bringing 4 people around town on a fairly regular basis, etc. I don't think its' fair to assume every M driver would be happier with a GT3.

The true goal is to just have them both

[desertfox73]

Originally Posted by Padfan9

Very true! Do you think paying in the 900s w tax for a 90K msrp M3 with 3k down on a 36 Mo lease is a good deal? Haha

Yeah I think that's pretty good. My F83 stickered at $86k, with $2k down my monthly is $936.

[EricSMG]

Originally Posted by Padfan9

Very true! Do you think paying in the 900s w tax for a 90K msrp M3 with 3k down on a 36 Mo lease is a good deal? Haha

How is that possible? Your 3k down will only cover drives offs and not reduce the lease amount.

Residual is 51,300 @ 10k per year. Even if you got 10k off of msrp (unlikely), your payment would be in the 1100/month region assuming 7% tax rate and 4.5 apr.

What am I missing? Lease math is very straightforward, please post the deal details here.

[halfempty]

Originally Posted by jmg

Now's the perfect time to buy because it's the apex of the F8X platform and we all know about apexing - apex late!! Most of the issues have been worked out and BMW has updated it as far as it will be updated. I think the first MY of the G80 is going to have the same growing pains of every other M3 generation. It's nice to be the first, but it's also nice to come in when the G8X gets some upgrades and updates. I'd buy/lease the F80, keep it for 2-3 years, swap or sell and get into the G80 if you are so inclined. I'll probably be doing the same when my F80 is up in a few months.

+1
This is my actual plan

[nicknaz]

Only you know why you sold your m4 and why you want an M3 but on the surface that doesn't make sense to me.

You'd still have your m4 if you loved the platform that much and if you really needed the space and seats you'd have kept your bigger vehicles

I also think a low miles '15 or '16 f80 with a few choice mods like full coilovers and wider wheels/tires would be a better drive for a lot less money than a new stock '18

Consider getting an f31 wagon to daily and a pure sports car as a toy. Lots of options with a $90k budget

[aBMWfan]

Ok these first year arguments, y’all have ur preferences, but I have 2015 and zero issues.

I did have the 2008 m3 and that had a ton of issues. So I think it really depends on the car, I guess I got lucky with the 2015... so far.

Anyways, OP (Brian) good to have you back. With all the new emissions laws and regulations we’ll see how the new m3 turns out. Not worth waiting for it tho I’d get the F80 comp. then move to G80 when it’s more feasible

[GOLFFRR]

Originally Posted by pheerIx

Says the guy selling cars

[TXSoxFan]

Originally Posted by Padfan9

Very true! Do you think paying in the 900s w tax for a 90K msrp M3 with 3k down on a 36 Mo lease is a good deal? Haha

That seems a bit light as my $82K M3 would've been around $975/month with nothing out of pocket other than drive-offs. I got around $8K off MSRP. If your sticker is at $90k (it must be loaded with CCB), and you mean $3K as a cap reduction plus drive-offs you'll be close, but I think you'll still creep over $1,000/month because rates are higher.