Anyone else dumping the M3/4 for a Cayman GT4?

[beanboy]

I don't see why people are so shocked about M4 and GT4 cross shopping.

Yes, there ARE some big differences

But they are both German coupes with excellent handling, are at the top of their respective models, are available in 6spd manual, with about 400hp, in the $80-95k range

Parker

[myzmak]

Originally Posted by ASAP

I like you... you keep it real with a certain diplomacy... SOM3 is second lol.

hahaha. years of walking crazy fine lines I guess

[Jacky Treehorn]

Originally Posted by DocWeatherington

A) I just touched myself

And

1) you forgot to mention rides...

Let me correct your last sentence.

I fully intend to make a thorough review of the car: pics, video, track review for you guys and take Docweatherington for a ride and possible let him drive it, that's if he wants.

haha I'll keep ya posted ! Most people in my experience who go by the name "Doc" are cool in my book. What part of the US you at?

[DocWeatherington]

Originally Posted by Jacky Treehorn

haha I'll keep ya posted ! Most people in my experience who go by the name "Doc" are cool in my book. What part of the US you at?

Thanks man or wo-man.. but that doesn't count for you not offering a Ride. Haha...

Vermont cough, spit...

[GotEM4]

Originally Posted by beanboy

Well, until last Wednesday, I was super happy about my M4 ED on April 8 in Munich. BMW M cars have been the only cars for me for the past 14 years, etc.

Then I saw the Porsche Cayman GT4. It was love (lust) at first sight.

I immediately ran around to several local Porsche dealers. Some were more helpful (Porsche of Plano) than others (Park Place Porsche). I ended up in the #6 spot on the list for a dealer who PNA says will likely get 8.

The problem is I now have 2 cars on order--the M4 and GT4--and can't keep both. And the GT4 won't enter production until July, and most likely mine won't enter production til late fall or so since I'm not at the top of the list.

So if I cancel my M4 order it doesn't send a great message to my BMW dealer who I've got a great relationship with, and it leaves me stuck without a car for a 2 week ED.

Depending on what trade value my Porsche dealer offers, it looks like the most likely scenario is to take ED of the M4 in April, keep it for a couple months once it comes back to the states, then trade it in against the GT4 (it'll probably have 3000-4000 miles on it at that point).

Anyway, just felt like seeing if anyone here is considering dumping their M3/4 for a GT4--from what I've been reading on several forums (including this one) it looks like the GT4 may be making converts out of a lot of people. I love M cars, but it feels like the GT4 is in the spirit of how M cars used to be--6spd, NA engine, very raw and much lighter.

Parker

what a dumb move! if you got money to burn, then by all means do it. But to trade it? you'd lose a lot just on depreciation alone! if u really want the gt4, cancel the m4 order...plain and simple. wtf cares about ur relationship w/bmw if ur going with porsche now!??

[beanboy]

Well I wouldn't pay sales tax twice. I'd just pay it on the difference between the m4 trade and the gt4.

So far renting a M4 or 911 doesn't look like a viable option. I'm likely gonna need 3000km over a 10 day rental, and most companies seem to give you a lot less than that. And additional mileage is prohibitively expensive.

The whole purpose of the trip was to drive a super car in Europe (I have done it once before with a f10 m5). I can always cancel my M4 and rent a basic 3 or 5 series BMW....just doesn't sound nearly as exciting. :-/

[Brosef]

Originally Posted by beanboy

Well I wouldn't pay sales tax twice. I'd just pay it on the difference between the m4 trade and the gt4.

So far renting a M4 or 911 doesn't look like a viable option. I'm likely gonna need 3000km over a 10 day rental, and most companies seem to give you a lot less than that. And additional mileage is prohibitively expensive.

The whole purpose of the trip was to drive a super car in Europe (I have done it once before with a f10 m5). I can always cancel my M4 and rent a basic 3 or 5 series BMW....just doesn't sound nearly as exciting. :-/

let me get this straight - you're willing to lose your shirt on trading in an M4 within a year of buying it, but you're not willing to spend the extra money to upgrade from a 3-series rental to an M3/M5 rental?

talk about being penny wise and pound foolish...

[MDIVISION]

Hmm, well let's see it is a very nice car but you pay more, about $20-$30K depending on the option and have less hp and MUCH less torque, no maintenance, lose the back seats and gain a 911 wanna be that SCREAMS mid life crisis? Don't know about that one. If I ever come across $$$ I would get a GT2 and if I'm short a GT3. Even the Turbo 911s are too mid life crisis for some reason. This would be my 4th M car and I'm looking forward to it....

[gthal]

If I could get away with a 2 seater and didn't want to spend more than $100K, it would definitely be the GT4... or maybe a C7 Z06. Those two cars will be the best track cars out there for under $100K in my opinion.

Too bad I need a back seat

Porsche appears to have out done itself on this car.

[Knicks_fan2]

Originally Posted by MDIVISION

Hmm, well let's see it is a very nice car but you pay more, about $20-$30K depending on the option and have less hp and MUCH less torque, no maintenance, lose the back seats and gain a 911 wanna be that SCREAMS mid life crisis? Don't know about that one. If I ever come across $$$ I would get a GT2 and if I'm short a GT3. Even the Turbo 911s are too mid life crisis for some reason. This would be my 4th M car and I'm looking forward to it....

Exactly why is a Cayman Gt4 a 911 wanna be? Seems like a completely different proposition to me.

[DocWeatherington]

[MDIVISION]

Originally Posted by Knicks_fan2

Exactly why is a Cayman Gt4 a 911 wanna be? Seems like a completely different proposition to me.

You know what i mean. Anyways again like anything else, to each its own. Let him get the porsche

[TahoeM3]

Originally Posted by beanboy

I don't see why people are so shocked about M4 and GT4 cross shopping.

Yes, there ARE some big differences

But they are both German coupes with excellent handling, are at the top of their respective models, are available in 6spd manual, with about 400hp, in the $80-95k range

Parker

Yes, except the GT4 is a limited edition purpose built no compromise sports/race car with no back seat and a giant tacked on spoiler, intended for use on a track. I think you will quickly regret using it as a daily driver, or at least I know I would. Maybe for those that think that 'because racecar' is a real thing...

[teamwerx]

The Cayman is fucking dirty, but it's like skinny arms Rob Lowe and cable in the power department. I would buy the Z06 before it even though I would probably buy it if there was one on the lot.

[beanboy]

It won't be a daily driver. As previously stated I've got 3 other vehicles to alternate between. So I'm not super worried about it being too rough.

Parker

[HamsF80]

This thread reminds me of a squirrel and the next shiny nut.

The cars are apples and oranges. Both great cars but fill completely different buckets.

Cross shopping makes me think you're just looking for the next great thing.

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by beanboy

I'm not buying this car because I need a specific type of car or even because I need a daily driver. I just want the most fun for my dollar. And it seems on that basis like the GT4 might be the ticket.

I've got other cars to drive (Expedition KR, e39 M5, and a Ferrari 360). I was just getting an M4 or GT4 to have another 'fun car.'

Originally Posted by beanboy

Well, until last Wednesday, I was super happy about my M4 ED on April 8 in Munich. BMW M cars have been the only cars for me for the past 14 years, etc.

Not sure that I agree with the second bolded part based on the first part.

It is hard to get a read on someone from a forum obviously, but you do seem to have that squirrel-nut phenomena going on as someone else suggested above.

Here's an idea for you: Dump the E39 M5, dump the F360, and park both the M4 and Cayman in the garage. Actually, the better idea would have been to go with an M3 instead of an M4, but it is a bit late for that. Well, its a bit late if you want to keep your date overseas, I should say.

Nothing wrong with being impulsive and going after what you want, but there is a point where it all becomes sort of scattered and you go from being admired for taking risks to just looking like a reckless and confused hoarder. I'm not saying you've reached that point, but maybe the line that shouldn't be crossed is quickly approaching

Anyway, my point was to try to help you problem solve this and get everything you want. You don't need the two Jalopies in the garage, both of the current apples of your eye will bury them six feet under. Out with old, in with the new and all of that.

[Gac101177]

If you have the money to burn do it we only live once, enjoy the M4 while you drive thru Europe and wait for the GT4 and don't look back.

Life it's to short.
Have fun

[RingMeister01]

A replacement to the M4 it's not but a perfect second or third car it is. But I get how tempting it is to consider dumping your car for a GT4 as its the same price point.

It's a badass whip

[Gearhead999s]

I ordered a GT4 and I do not see the car as a replacement for my M4 but as an addition. I intend it to be my trackcar and occasional daily driver.I am quite pumped about the GT4 as I really think Porsche has got it right with this car for an avid track enthusiast at a fairly affordable price level.I am hoping for delivery in August.

[gmd2003]

Originally Posted by teamwerx

The Cayman is fucking dirty, but it's like skinny arms Rob Lowe and cable in the power department. I would buy the Z06 before it even though I would probably buy it if there was one on the lot.

It has a 7.6 power to weight significantly better than the M3 in fact. 385hp /310 lb feet is no joke when a car weighs 29xx pounds . The point of the car is driver experience and handling and in driver experience and handling it will likely trump anything out there sub 200k .

[Gearhead999s]

I ordered a Z06 Z07 for myself and in typical GM fashion they will not build the Car with the Z07 package & Stage 3 aero due to commodity restrictions. I firmed up my GT4 order the moment that I found this out.it was a very easy decision as here in Canada the 2 cars are about the same money to buy.