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03-07-2017, 09:24 AM | #67 |
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No manual or DCT option? Dont know about all that...:
If I wanted a straight auto, I'd have a C63 AMG.
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Y'all can hate on the car all you want...it's not gonna make the f80 better
Drove the quad. 1. Yes it's faster 2. Yes it hold power to redline where the f80 drops (stock and when mine had 540whp) 2. Yes it sounds better (below 2500rpm it sounds like f80, but that's where it ends) 3. Yes looks are subjective but the Alfa is more "elegant"...f80 is more aggressive 4. Yes the car puts power to the ground better (and yes my f80 had r compound tires..and had radials at one point) 5. The chassis is more toss-able in the f80 6. Yes the tech is more refined in the f80
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Y'all can hate on the car all you want...it's not gonna make the f80 better
Drove the quad. 1. Yes it's faster 2. Yes it hold power to redline where the f80 drops (stock and when mine had 540whp) 2. Yes it sounds better (below 2500rpm it sounds like f80, but that's where it ends) 3. Yes looks are subjective but the Alfa is more "elegant"...f80 is more aggressive 4. Yes the car puts power to the ground better (and yes my f80 had r compound tires..and had radials at one point) 5. The chassis is more toss-able in the f80 6. Yes the tech is more refined in the f80
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I think the review is spot on.
Alfa gives you the more raw and visceral driving experience. M3 is the better car overall but the driving experience is more clinical and reserved. I wish the F80 sounded better and also put power down better, those are valid criticisms from my ownership. |
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Y'all can hate on the car all you want...it's not gonna make the f80 better
Drove the quad. 1. Yes it's faster 2. Yes it hold power to redline where the f80 drops (stock and when mine had 540whp) 2. Yes it sounds better (below 2500rpm it sounds like f80, but that's where it ends) 3. Yes looks are subjective but the Alfa is more "elegant"...f80 is more aggressive 4. Yes the car puts power to the ground better (and yes my f80 had r compound tires..and had radials at one point) 5. The chassis is more toss-able in the f80 6. Yes the tech is more refined in the f80
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Would be great if they brought the manual over here. I didn't consider the C63Ss due to lack of a stick option, but would have if offered. |
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BMW needs to raise the ante now to stay competitive, because I doubt a 500hp+ Jaguar XE SVR is going to be a pushover either, plus the just revealed RS5 is already putting down some good numbers in power, weight, and acceleration (0-100KPH in only 3.9 seconds which will likely be 3.6-3.7 to 60MPH when Auto Mags thrash it. I can also see AMG and Caddy responding in kind shortly too. They aren't going to take this laying down. |
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The Alfa is definitely a good competitor debut to the F8x, I just can't get over the smooshed bird face front and I have seen it in person. The reality is it's the newest and most interesting car right now, how long that will last is what I am watching for and also to see if they eventually see more shop time or flat bed tow truck time than road time. Having a 2015 M4 modded for 30k+ miles with nothing outside of oil changes needed has impressed me since we know all high performance cars have their gremlins.
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03-07-2017, 12:08 PM | #77 |
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Maybe BoosTonian can chime in on the speed and responsiveness of the ZF 8 Speed shifts in comparison to the DCT. Though unfathomable, I feel it is pretty much on par with the DCT without any of the part throttle stumbling many folks have experienced during on-off-on transitions.
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I've been on the internet recently and I can report that it is like that on all car forums.
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there is no rush of gear shifts like a dct or a manual. a lot of people don't realize that the computer cuts throttle on an auto box to lower the stress on the drivetrain, thus autos do not bang gears like a dct or manual. a good example would be the prev gen e63 which the computer modulates throttle and full power does not come on for gear shifts until 4th gear. that's why hp/lbs on c63, guilia, etc heavily favor these cars, but their 0-60, 1/4 miles are barely faster than much lower hp/lbs car like the m3 with a dct.
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pretty sure all of the turbo amgs sounds pretty damn good lol... So does the supra, the m5/m6, the f40, hell the n55 even sounds good with exhaust. the m3 just sounds like boo boo
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I'm convinced... but where are the real drag race footage...please.
I mean no sponsored car reviews. You guys drove both cars and still no drag footage. Butt dyno is one thing, but please next time put the cam on so this discussion can be over. The M3 F80 is already 3 years old, RWD and no R compound. But facts are facts... I saw this link.. and damned 604 hp with AWD is really a game changer for me. http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2017/2/2...power-7737949/
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The ZF in the Quadrafoglio is pretty damn impressive in manual mode. Hard to tell the difference between that in Race mode and the M3 DCT in Sport Plus. BTW...the DCT M2 is barely quicker than the automatic M240. Also, Check out the discrepency between the DCT and manual 2018 911 GT3 launched today. I know I keep flipping between DCT and Automatic, but the point is, though engaging to drive, manuals are definitely slower overal than both DCTs and the ZF automaticl. There is a reason F1 cars and most Ferrari, Lamborghini, McLarens, Audis are not sold with regular Manual Transmissions much these days. Time to just accept the inevitable, Bro!. |
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