Does the M4CS will hold value ?

[coolguy88]

Hello bimmers !

I'm about to buy a M4CS 2019 with 27000 km.

My only question is: If i sell it in 3 years with 60000km the resell value will be good?

I can have the car for 112,000$CAD (86500$USD) with full warranty till 2028 and unlimited km.

What do you think about this?

Thank you for advices.

[Keca10]

It all depends on the overall economy.
It’s been a wild and unprecedented ride of market forces over the last few years.

I’d bet on it losing value in the next 3 year period. These are toys, not investments. Chips are cyclical and will recover and there could be over-inventory as supply usually reacts with a delay. And demand may drop with interest rates or if economy craps the bed (good chance). These things impact all car prices, but especially ‘luxury/special’ cars. Fingers crossed Porsche GT car prices come back to reality.

Maybe clean examples rebound after 3-5 years as people crash/modify and add miles to them (and as electric cars start taking over).

It’s hard to predict tho. At this point I am more concerned about my cash holding value.

[coolguy88]

Originally Posted by Keca10

It all depends on the overall economy.
It’s been a wild and unprecedented ride of market forces over the last few years.

I’d bet on it losing value in the next 3 year period. These are toys, not investments. Chips are cyclical and will recover and there could be over-inventory as supply usually reacts with a delay. And demand may drop with interest rates or if economy craps the bed (good chance). These things impact all car prices, but especially ‘luxury/special’ cars. Fingers crossed Porsche GT car prices come back to reality.

Maybe clean examples rebound after 3-5 years as people crash/modify and add miles to them (and as electric cars start taking over).

It’s hard to predict tho. At this point I am more concerned about my cash holding value.

This is what i was thinking, probably will wait 1-2 years and grab a M4 or M4CS at discount price.

Thank you!

[CanAutM3]

You are getting ripped off at that price. A used M4cs is not worth that much. I paid less than that for my new 2019 M4cs back in September 2018 and sold it for 90k CAD last year after 3 years and 36,000km of ownership. The M4cs is a fantastic machine, but you should not overpay for it.

[coolguy88]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

You are getting ripped off at that price. A used M4cs is not worth that much. I paid less than that for my new 2019 M4cs back in September 2018 and sold it for 90k CAD last year after 3 years and 36,000km of ownership. The M4cs is a fantastic machine, but you should not overpay for it.

Yep that was with a 6500$ extended warranty and tax in. Car price was 91399$

But yep still overprice...

[G35POPPEDMYCHERRY]

let me look into my crystal ball

[coolguy88]

Originally Posted by G35POPPEDMYCHERRY

let me look into my crystal ball

Expected nothing less !

[G35POPPEDMYCHERRY]

Originally Posted by coolguy88

Expected nothing less !

since you are a good sport...

the car has mileage and likely won't be a collector piece with multiple owners, furthermore the market it seriously inflated so there is no way in your persepctive the value will go up since you are over paying from the jump.

also what are your intentions with the car, seal it in shrink wrap and keep in garage.

if you are going to drive it, then just forget about what its resale will be down the road. live in the moment

[coolguy88]

Originally Posted by G35POPPEDMYCHERRY

since you are a good sport...

the car has mileage and likely won't be a collector piece with multiple owners, furthermore the market it seriously inflated so there is no way in your persepctive the value will go up since you are over paying from the jump.

also what are your intentions with the car, seal it in shrink wrap and keep in garage.

if you are going to drive it, then just forget about what its resale will be down the road. live in the moment

I know... it's never a good financial decision but if can make one that don't make me loose 50k in 3 years would be fun

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by coolguy88

Yep that was with a 6500$ extended warranty and tax in. Car price was 91399$

But yep still overprice...

Different story then. 90k before tax is a bit high but not unreasonable, definitely not ridiculous as the 112k in the OP. I would not take the extended warranty for that price.

[coolguy88]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

Different story then. 90k before tax is a bit high but not unreasonable, definitely not ridiculous as the 112k in the OP. I would not take the extended warranty for that price.

Carfax got a 10k accident tho and couple of good rock chip on it. (No PPF)

[krudmunk]

For me, personally, anything in the 90k+ territory is immediately Porsche 911. No questions asked.

I don't find the CS to be that amusing. It's just a base model with alcantara interior. Grab a 6 speed base model and you'll be much happier. Just my 2 cents.

[coolguy88]

Originally Posted by krudmunk

Anything in the 90k+ territory is 911. No questions asked.

I don't find the CS to be that amusing. It's just a base model with alcantara interior. Grab a 6 speed base model and you'll be much happier. Just my 2 cents.

Make sens!

[krudmunk]

I've seen M4 GTS go for 70-80k in this market around 20k miles. Also, I think it's a waste to buy warranty for the F8x chassis. I've had 2016 F80 M3 for 4 years and 2020 F82 M4 for over a year. Stage 2 OTS maps. Not a single issue.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by coolguy88

Carfax got a 10k accident tho and couple of good rock chip on it. (No PPF)

You should have been more forthcoming in your OP, difficult to give you the advice you are seeking for without the full story…

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by krudmunk

For me, personally, anything in the 90k+ territory is immediately Porsche 911. No questions asked.

I don't find the CS to be that amusing. It's just a base model with alcantara interior. Grab a 6 speed base model and you'll be much happier. Just my 2 cents.

You don”t seem to be well informed about what a CS is….

Further, note that the OP is in Canada, there aren”t any recent used 911 for sale at 90k CAD in these crazy times…

[krudmunk]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

You don”t seem to be well informed about what a CS is….

Further, note that the OP is in Canada, there aren”t any recent used 911 for sale at 90k CAD…

CS is a good balance between track and street. Power is almost identical to comp tune. Suspension is almost identical to the base models. Exhaust is comp exhaust with welded tips. CF hood and CCB can be added to any F8x.

But, I just don't think a CS is worth the price

[coolguy88]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

You don”t seem to be well informed about what a CS is….

Further, note that the OP is in Canada, there aren”t any recent used 911 for sale at 90k CAD in these crazy times…

I really want to get a summer car but seems like market is too broken and waiting seems the right solution... 911 are gold at holding value but at 90k like you said i've got nothing.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by krudmunk

CS is a good balance between track and street. Power is almost identical to comp tune. Suspension is almost identical to the base models. Exhaust is comp exhaust with welded tips. CF hood and CCB can be added to any F8x.

But, I just don't think a CS is worth the price

You should read up on it more. The torque increase makes a big difference, boosting the power area under the curve, with up to 38hp gain over the CP tune at some rpm. The whole suspension being tuned for R-comp tires also make a significant difference. The fact that I was 2.5 seconds faster around my local track in my M4cs vs my previous M4 on the same tires is quite telling to me.

For sure, the M4cs is not meant for everyone, for those that appeals to, it a very compelling proposition.

[krudmunk]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

You should read up on it more. The torque increase makes a big difference, boosting the power area under the curve, with up to 38hp gain over the CP tune at some rpm. The whole suspension being tuned for R-comp tires also make a significant difference. The fact that I was 2.5 seconds faster around my local track in my M4cs vs my previous M4 on the same tires is quite telling to me.

For sure, the M4cs is not meant for everyone, for those that appeals to, it a very compelling proposition.

I never meant to hurt your feelings. I just expressed how I felt like the CS is not worth the price point. Don't need to get butthurt

[G35POPPEDMYCHERRY]

Originally Posted by krudmunk

I never meant to hurt your feelings. I just expressed how I felt like the CS is not worth the price point. Don't need to get butthurt

Projection much lol

[krudmunk]

Originally Posted by G35POPPEDMYCHERRY

Projection much lol

I'd rather grab a base model 6 speed and tune it to stage 2 and put some cup 2s on with KW v3 coilovers. Have a blast on the street and at the track. I think I can shave 2.5 sec with cup 2 tires alone