Should I do Richland Forged GT4 19" all around or 19/20 like the CS?

[Shawn_M3 2023]

Hey guys, I'm going to be getting the Richland forged GT4 wheels for my 2018 M3 ZCP to wrap them with Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4 tires for the cold/rainy months as we get very little snow here and I'll be able to work from home when that happens.

These tires don't have a wide selection of sizes though (especially in 20s) so I'm thinking I'll do 265/35/19 in the front and the question is what should I do in the back? I can do 20s in the back with 295/30 or I could do 19s with 285/30.

Any suggestions or words of caution with going staggered like the CS?

[Fat Goose]

Subscribed! Also understand there is less DCS intervention with 19s 265 front and 285 rears… would that be the same ratio for 20s 295/30 with respect to the DCS?

For the record, on the 19s I would do 265/35/19 front and 285/35/19 rear versus 30. It fits and looks great.

[Capt Awesome]

I have this exact 19/20 setup sitting in my garage, except with PS4S summer tires... Just need to get the tires mounted. Should get it done within the next week. I'll update

[Shawn_M3 2023]

Originally Posted by Capt Awesome

I have this exact 19/20 setup sitting in my garage, except with PS4S summer tires... Just need to get the tires mounted. Should get it done within the next week. I'll update

Looks awesome!

Could you provide the wheel specs you went with? What size tires are you planning to use?

[dannyz_M4]

I have 20" rear and 19" fronts. Titan Ts5s, 295/30 on rear and 265/35 fronts cup 2s. Always loved the look of the staggered sized rims.

[Shawn_M3 2023]

Originally Posted by dannyz_M4

I have 20" rear and 19" fronts. Titan Ts5s, 295/30 on rear and 265/35 fronts cup 2s. Always loved the look of the staggered sized rims.

That looks super good!

[horsepower_and_hounds]

Very nice

[Nativetexan]

I ordered my GT4s in 19” a few weeks ago. I’m moving down from my 666ms.

I plan to do 265/35 & 285/35 tires. Was planning on PS4S since I’m in Texas and can wing it during our cold spells and infrequent snow.

OP, why are you choosing the all seasons? Just curious.

[Capt Awesome]

Stock suspension, getting the slightest rubbing at full lock on the front of the tire. Nothing a heat gun can't fix.

Rear: 20"x10.5" ET+35, 295/30/r20

Front: 19"x9.5" ET+22, 265/35/r19

[Shawn_M3 2023]

Originally Posted by Nativetexan

I ordered my GT4s in 19” a few weeks ago. I’m moving down from my 666ms.

I plan to do 265/35 & 285/35 tires. Was planning on PS4S since I’m in Texas and can wing it during our cold spells and infrequent snow.

OP, why are you choosing the all seasons? Just curious.

We don't get snow much here in VA but we do get cold temps under 40 degrees for an extended period of time. I want the all seasons so I don't have any concerns with taking the car out especially with the kids onboard.

[Shawn_M3 2023]

Originally Posted by Capt Awesome

Stock suspension, getting the slightest rubbing at full lock on the front of the tire. Nothing a heat gun can't fix.

Rear: 20"x10.5" ET+35, 295/30/r20

Front: 19"x9.5" ET+22, 265/35/r19

They look great!

Kinda surprising that the front is rubbing though? Is it only doing it on one specific side?

Could you also post a couple of more photos from the front and back to show the poke better and how flush the wheels sit to the fenders?

[Capt Awesome]

Originally Posted by Shawn_M3 2018

They look great!

Kinda surprising that the front is rubbing though? Is it only doing it on one specific side?

Could you also post a couple of more photos from the front and back to show the poke better and how flush the wheels sit to the fenders?

Rubbing on drivers side at full lock

[Shawn_M3 2023]

Any issues with traction control or DSC coming on more frequently for people that went from 20s (666 wheels) to a 19/20 staggered setup?

[Capt Awesome]

Originally Posted by Shawn_M3 2018

Any issues with traction control or DSC coming on more frequently for people that went from 20s (666 wheels) to a 19/20 staggered setup?

No

[horsepower_and_hounds]

19"x9.5" ET+22, 265/35/r19 should not rub. Ran this same spec but Vorsteiners on two of my M4's and never rub. Even lowered. I would check the back spacing to make sure it is correct.

[Shawn_M3 2023]

Originally Posted by Capt Awesome

No

Good to hear!

What did you do for tpms? Did you use your old ones or got new ones?

[Nativetexan]

I've come to conclusion, I'll use my current sensors.

For TPMS, I've struggled a bit in figuring out the differences in sensors.

I believe the cheaper sets online are sufficient in showing just tire pressure, while the BMW branded ones will also show temperature.

So if someone knows of a good 3rd party TPMS sensor brand that shows BOTH temp and pressure and doesn't cost $150/wheel (like the dealer), please share that link.

[Capt Awesome]

I bought this set on eBay for $150. They work without any issues.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-New-S...-127632-2357-0

[DuckCoverRoll]

Originally Posted by Capt Awesome

Rubbing on drivers side at full lock

Love those wheels! I'm surprised about rubbing at the front. I have the same tires (265/35ZR19) but mounted on the 763M (9Jx19 ET29 front and 10jx20 ET40 rear). Is it because the Richland Forged wheels are slightly wider at 9.5? I'm asking, because I've been considering getting these wheels but wanted to stick to similar configuration as the 763Ms.

[Capt Awesome]

Originally Posted by DuckCoverRoll

Love those wheels! I'm surprised about rubbing at the front. I have the same tires (265/35ZR19) but mounted on the 763M (9Jx19 ET29 front and 10jx20 ET40 rear). Is it because the Richland Forged wheels are slightly wider at 9.5? I'm asking, because I've been considering getting these wheels but wanted to stick to similar configuration as the 763Ms.

Probably a combination of wider and more aggressive offset