Oil Catch can

[lolololol]

Is this need on an S55 platform as much I needed it on my N54?

[cruzzinlow]

Heres mine after about 4K miles, collecting some moisture and a little oil, engine was cold when I checked it and took the picture.

Originally Posted by lolololol

Is this need on an S55 platform as much I needed it on my N54?

[lolololol]

Originally Posted by cruzzinlow

Heres mine after about 4K miles, collecting some moisture and a little oil, engine was cold when I checked it and took the picture.

Thanks mate - so no where near as bad as an N54 then !!

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by lolololol

Thanks mate - so no where near as bad as an N54 then !!

Still worth it

[jmciver]

Originally Posted by cruzzinlow

Heres mine after about 4K miles, collecting some moisture and a little oil, engine was cold when I checked it and took the picture.

I have been debating getting one of these, if only for peace of mind, since I plan to keep my car for a while. I think you just sealed the deal for me. That is the first pic I have seen of one come off the S55 after reading several of the debate threads - which mostly seem to say that it is not worth it on the S55, only if you are heavily modded.

While it seems like your engine is not "puking" oil/gas (and I would not expect this engine to do that - especially at 4k miles), given the cost of this mod, it still seems worth it to me now.

A few quick questions...

1. Is this the BMS Oil Catch Can?

2. Are you modded? If so, how much?

[Rapture]

I have the BMS OCC on my car. It's not a daily driver so it sits for days, sometimes longer. I installed the OCC at 100 miles and am at ~2500 miles now. I cleaned it at 1200 miles and again at 2200 miles. Both times it was about 1/6 filled with oil vapor and water condensation.
I would say it's a worth while mod on the S55.

[cruzzinlow]

I think its worth it like you said even if its just piece of mind, had them on my last 2 cars(both mustangs) so it was an automatic upgrade for me. Mildly modified with BMC drop ins and charcoal filters removed, AWE non resonated, BMS charge pipes and JB4. And yes this is the BMS catch can.

Originally Posted by jmciver

I have been debating getting one of these, if only for peace of mind, since I plan to keep my car for a while. I think you just sealed the deal for me. That is the first pic I have seen of one come off the S55 after reading several of the debate threads - which mostly seem to say that it is not worth it on the S55, only if you are heavily modded.

While it seems like your engine is not "puking" oil/gas (and I would not expect this engine to do that - especially at 4k miles), given the cost of this mod, it still seems worth it to me now.

A few quick questions...

1. Is this the BMS Oil Catch Can?

2. Are you modded? If so, how much?

[jmciver]

So I finally got around to ordering and installing my oil catch can yesterday. The install was a modest PITA since the OEM hose did not want to come off easy. But taking it out to drain it seems like more of a PITA than I thought it would be. Still glad I got it, but am I missing something or am I going to have to fully uninstall it to drain it?

[MasterP]

I tried the BMS one. It didn't fit where it was supposed to. I blame my intake. but they sure don't give you much to work with. I suspected emptying it would have been a bitch if I did finally manage to get it installed.

[jmciver]

I am thinking about possibly adding a drain hose w/shut off valve and routing it to the oil drain plug location so I don't have to remove it in the future.

[jmciver]

So I did my first interim oil change yesterday at 51XX miles, with the BMS OCC on the car for ~3500 miles. I was not expecting much of anything given the low milage since the OCC install and based on what others have seen. However, I was surprised at just how bone dry the OCC was. I guess this means that maybe my "modified" break-in procedure may have worked better than I thought to help seal those piston rings ......

Anyway, I am still glad I did this mod though and would still recommend it as this is not an expensive modification by any means. As healthy and as well designed as the S55 engine may be, there will always be some blow-by as the engine ages. Next inspection will be in ~5k miles or so with the next oil change. Pic below of what I saw when I went to drain it...

[Motodude310]

Only reason I've never done one on my current car is that they can freeze and cause serious running issues with frozen sludge in them. I'm in Chicago. Anywhere the winter doesn't suck balls I'd get one.

[Mr. Wilson]

Installed mine at 500 miles. Checked again at 5k and 10k miles. Not a drop. Put tune on at 10k so it will be interesting to see if there is any difference at 15k. Very different experience with my N54 engine. Although my prior tuned N55 didn't show anything either similar to the S55.

[jmciver]

Thought I would add some more data to this thread.....

I just checked my OCC at the 10k mile mark prior to my oil change. Here is what I saw after approximately 5k miles since the last time I checked it. Approx 1-2 oz of oil/water condensation with some sludge at the bottom. My engine is completely stock other than some AFE drop in air filters.

Still glad I got it....

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by jmciver

Thought I would add some more data to this thread.....

I just checked my OCC at the 10k mile mark prior to my oil change. Here is what I saw after approximately 5k miles since the last time I checked it. Approx 1-2 oz of oil/water condensation with some sludge at the bottom. My engine is completely stock other than some AFE drop in air filters.

Still glad I got it....

[watm3]

Originally Posted by cruzzinlow

I think its worth it like you said even if its just piece of mind, had them on my last 2 cars(both mustangs) so it was an automatic upgrade for me. Mildly modified with BMC drop ins and charcoal filters removed, AWE non resonated, BMS charge pipes and JB4. And yes this is the BMS catch can.

May give this product a shot. What's the torque on the bolt used for mounting the can?

[IC3BLAK]

Does anybody have an easy way to check the oil in this? I mean I received mine today and cant even see how you can get this in without removing the strut brace or forcing it down there :/ so the convenience of checking the oil is going to be a bit of a PITA. I got it as i have alot of, what looked like, blow by in and around my charge pipes.

[coldsteelrain]

Just installed mine. 10 min at most
It's a tight fit. You can install it without removing the strut bar by wiggling it in sideways right next to the radiator and once it's in than you just turn it in upright position
Another tip is that you can pull up on the pvc hose cover so it's flush like mine and you won't see the ugly stitching
I can't see the can being able to be removed unless you remove the left side air intake or the entire oil catch can
I'll check in 1k miles to see if it caught anything at all

[jmciver]

Originally Posted by IC3BLAK

Does anybody have an easy way to check the oil in this? I mean I received mine today and cant even see how you can get this in without removing the strut brace or forcing it down there :/ so the convenience of checking the oil is going to be a bit of a PITA. I got it as i have alot of, what looked like, blow by in and around my charge pipes.

Yes, it is a PITA to check with the strut brace in place, but not that bad once you get the hang of it, especially since it is not checked that often (I check mine with every oil change, every 5k miles). What I do now is unscrew/remove the big bolt, loosen the two smaller bolts, and then slide off the larger silicone hose (the one that comes with the kit, not the OEM hose). This gives me enough room to move/tilt the can so that I can unscrew it/re-install it.

I also add some painters tape in the area to minimize the chances for scratches to the car, the strut brace and the can as it is still a bit tight in there.

[IC3BLAK]

Originally Posted by jmciver

Yes, it is a PITA to check with the strut brace in place, but not that bad once you get the hang of it, especially since it is not checked that often (I check mine with every oil change, every 5k miles). What I do now is unscrew/remove the big bolt, loosen the two smaller bolts, and then slide off the larger silicone hose (the one that comes with the kit, not the OEM hose). This gives me enough room to move/tilt the can so that I can unscrew it/re-install it.

I also add some painters tae in the are to minimize the chances for scratches to the car, the strut brace and the can as it is still a bit tight in there.

Originally Posted by jmciver

Yes, it is a PITA to check with the strut brace in place, but not that bad once you get the hang of it, especially since it is not checked that often (I check mine with every oil change, every 5k miles). What I do now is unscrew/remove the big bolt, loosen the two smaller bolts, and then slide off the larger silicone hose (the one that comes with the kit, not the OEM hose). This gives me enough room to move/tilt the can so that I can unscrew it/re-install it.

I also add some painters tae in the are to minimize the chances for scratches to the car, the strut brace and the can as it is still a bit tight in there.

Great tips, thank you, ill give it a go. I actually tried to install it today but failed miserably! I ended up removing the strut brace for more room bur couldn't for the life of me get the PVC hose into the valve cover on the engine :s

On top of that the two split hoses near where the can rest seem to get in the way?

Any tips on this?

Cheers

[ceedawg]

The catchcan is especially important if you use E85 and high boost a lot . Hopefully there is a vacuum source connected to the catchcan as well.

[jmciver]

Originally Posted by IC3BLAK

Great tips, thank you, ill give it a go. I actually tried to install it today but failed miserably! I ended up removing the strut brace for more room bur couldn't for the life of me get the PVC hose into the valve cover on the engine :s

On top of that the two split hoses near where the can rest seem to get in the way?

Any tips on this?

Cheers

Not sure what to tell you on that one, I just followed the install instructions and everything went ok. The only PITA part of the install for me (other than the tight space with the strut brace installed) was disconnecting the stock PCV hose from the engine. It just took some patience to get it off.