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      04-16-2021, 01:08 PM   #1
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CG Lock Alternatives?

It's been a while since I have taken cars to the track but I used to love my CG Lock. Basically it was a cam cleat that attached to the seat belt buckle and allowed you to synch the lower portion of the belt tight to keep you from moving in your seat. Unfortunately, it seems they've gone out of business and I've lost track of mine.

I haven't been able to find any alternatives. Anybody use anything similar?
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It's been a while since I have taken cars to the track but I used to love my CG Lock. Basically it was a cam cleat that attached to the seat belt buckle and allowed you to synch the lower portion of the belt tight to keep you from moving in your seat. Unfortunately, it seems they've gone out of business and I've lost track of mine.

I haven't been able to find any alternatives. Anybody use anything similar?
I searched and couldn't find anything either
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      04-16-2021, 07:56 PM   #3
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If you're willing to pay a hefty markup, it looks like they're still available here:

https://www.waymotorworks.com/cg-lock.html
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Our guy Farkle did a video of alternatives available:
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Our guy Farkle did a video of alternatives available:
Great video!
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      04-16-2021, 10:29 PM   #6
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Our guy Farkle did a video of alternatives available:
Thanks for the mention!

Unfortunately I haven't found an alternative, that said it may be possible to modify one of the pieces I tested by putting some higher friction material in its clamping mechanism (like maybe bicycle innertube?). I just haven't gotten around to trying that.
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Thanks for the mention!

Unfortunately I haven't found an alternative, that said it may be possible to modify one of the pieces I tested by putting some higher friction material in it's clamping mechanism (like maybe bicycle innertube?). I just haven't gotten around to trying that.
Your excellent videos always cost me money FaRKle!
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Unfortunately I haven't found an alternative, that said it may be possible to modify one of the pieces I tested by putting some higher friction material in its clamping mechanism (like maybe bicycle innertube?). I just haven't gotten around to trying that.
OK, I did some C&F testing with the "seat belt extender pros" device today and lined it with some rubber to give it better grab. Seems promising...
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Unfortunately I haven't found an alternative, that said it may be possible to modify one of the pieces I tested by putting some higher friction material in its clamping mechanism (like maybe bicycle innertube?). I just haven't gotten around to trying that.
OK, I did some C&F testing with the "seat belt extender pros" device today and lined it with some rubber to give it better grab. Seems promising...
I bought a few of the types that you tested as well for experimenting. Rubber is a great idea. I'm trying to think if there's some material that allows you to slide freely one direction but then bites in the other.

I've never tried or seen climbing skins for skis in person. But I've seen skiers able to 'walk' their skis up the hill in one direction and then glide on flats or downs. I wonder if this could be worth testing https://skimo.co/skin-rolls
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Unfortunately I haven't found an alternative, that said it may be possible to modify one of the pieces I tested by putting some higher friction material in its clamping mechanism (like maybe bicycle innertube?). I just haven't gotten around to trying that.
OK, I did some C&F testing with the "seat belt extender pros" device today and lined it with some rubber to give it better grab. Seems promising...
I bought a few of the types that you tested as well for experimenting. Rubber is a great idea. I'm trying to think if there's some material that allows you to slide freely one direction but then bites in the other.

I've never tried or seen climbing skins for skis in person. But I've seen skiers able to 'walk' their skis up the hill in one direction and then glide on flats or downs. I wonder if this could be worth testing https://skimo.co/skin-rolls
Skins will not work as they won't grip a belt. It's a plush nylon or mohair that provides the grip.

I have a CG if folks are foraging. Pm if interested.
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One alternative is to quickly jerk the shoulder belt to trigger the tensioner lock, then adjust the seat bottom forward so both the lap and shoulder belts are tight. I've experimented with this technique but never used it on the track. I cannot comment on the head and neck safety in a collision. Try this at your own risk.
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I've played with the idea of using something similar to this rubber in between me and my leather seat. Would be cool if some sort of adhesive could stick to the leather, and then make you slide around less in the seat. I'm guessing it would probably damage the leather if it was strong enough to actually stay in place though.

The CG lock will help, but the biggest problem for me is sliding around on the leather seats. Alcantara would have been such a better material for the seat centers... even my B8 Audi S4 had that.

I got lucky and have a CG lock that a friend gave me that he was no longer using (went cage and harness). I hate to say it, buts worth the 129 they are charging on that website. It's annoying that they mark it up, but trust me, it's worth it.

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I bought a few of the types that you tested as well for experimenting. Rubber is a great idea. I'm trying to think if there's some material that allows you to slide freely one direction but then bites in the other.

I've never tried or seen climbing skins for skis in person. But I've seen skiers able to 'walk' their skis up the hill in one direction and then glide on flats or downs. I wonder if this could be worth testing https://skimo.co/skin-rolls
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One alternative is to quickly jerk the shoulder belt to trigger the tensioner lock, then adjust the seat bottom forward so both the lap and shoulder belts are tight. I've experimented with this technique but never used it on the track. I cannot comment on the head and neck safety in a collision. Try this at your own risk.
I have used this at the track, and it does hold the body pretty well.
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I ordered a cg-lock from way motor works and they charged my card. We'll see if it actually ships and I will post an update on how it works on track. I have never heard of such a device till this thread so OP, you owe me $130 lol
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I ordered a cg-lock from way motor works and they charged my card. We'll see if it actually ships and I will post an update on how it works on track. I have never heard of such a device till this thread so OP, you owe me $130 lol
Let us know how it goes! I'm interested as well. I noticed I kept sliding around my seat despite having the bolsters set at max.
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I have one, it definitely helps. But my issue is I have a small frame and am thin, so despite the lock and max bolsters I still tend to shimmy/slide around a bit. And for some reason, I can't get the shoulder belt locking trick to work consistently. I managed to do it once, and along with the CG lock that was pretty nice.

Someone above mentioned about putting something on the seat -- it just occurred to me that either the stuff that you put down between an area rug and hardwood floor might work, or that squishy kind of pad-like shelf-liner. First track day at TBolt on Monday, will see what I have around the house and maybe try that out.
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I have one, it definitely helps. But my issue is I have a small frame and am thin, so despite the lock and max bolsters I still tend to shimmy/slide around a bit. And for some reason, I can't get the shoulder belt locking trick to work consistently. I managed to do it once, and along with the CG lock that was pretty nice.

Someone above mentioned about putting something on the seat -- it just occurred to me that either the stuff that you put down between an area rug and hardwood floor might work, or that squishy kind of pad-like shelf-liner. First track day at TBolt on Monday, will see what I have around the house and maybe try that out.
I haven't tested it but on some cars if you pull the seatbelt all the way out to the limit, it goes into locking mode and will only recoil, but not let more out. If you like the shoulder strap tight, you could try that as opposed to jerking it tight.

The rug pad would probably work. I don't imagine that would hurt the seats.
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I have a funny image of you guys applying adhesive Velcro to your clothes and seat bottom.

Last weekend I was driving a spec miata at Lime Rock. The car was painfully slow but it had 6 points and a fixed back OMP seat. It was a joy to not spent energy bracing myself in heavy braking zones and corners. By comparison, tracking my M3 feels like pilates on a rollercoaster if that makes any sense.

One of these days I am going to upgrade to cobra negaros + BK harness bar + 6 points w/ HANS.
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I have a funny image of you guys applying adhesive Velcro to your clothes and seat bottom.
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I ordered a cg-lock from way motor works and they charged my card. We'll see if it actually ships and I will post an update on how it works on track. I have never heard of such a device till this thread so OP, you owe me $130 lol
It will show up. I recently bought two of them from him. One of them had a manufacturing defect and he sent me out another one next day. It's a legit seller.
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