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      12-03-2018, 11:19 AM   #133
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any update to the december numbers? any new incentives?
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Over 930 new M3s still sitting on lots and soon to be 2019. You would think they would want to move them.
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I did some quick stats ... as follows:
- There are a total of 1515 M3/4 in US now
- 937 of them are M3s
- 578 are M4s
Of those
- 122 are 2018
- 446 are 2019
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      12-03-2018, 12:41 PM   #135
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937!! wow, that's a lot!!! I wonder what incentives they'll offer to move them. I'm looking to pick one up soon. hopefully this month.

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I did some quick stats ... as follows:
- There are a total of 1515 M3/4 in US now
- 937 of them are M3s
- 578 are M4s
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- 446 are 2019
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i really want to get back into an M3. i traded my 17 m3 for an 18 audi s5 a few months back and itching to get back into a 6 spd manual. there are plenty of M3s with manuals (5+) within a few hundred miles of me but it seems like all the leases are now $1k+?? seems awfully high; my $71K optioned M3 was only $830..
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      12-03-2018, 02:45 PM   #137
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First post updated with December 2018 program rates.
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Darn it. i thought the rates will be better since the 2019 is coming up. From what i see it look the same as last month.
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CS residuals correct?
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      12-04-2018, 08:52 AM   #141
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They then offered me a rate of 1K per month through the BMW select program with a balloon of about 27k at the end. I've searched all over to see if there's a consensus for whether or not this is a good idea for someone planning to trade their car in after 3 years and haven't found an answer. Compared to financing I think it's clear that I would end up paying more interest on it so probably not a great idea, but compared to a lease??? I still am not sure.

My understanding is that after 3 years I can sell the car and essentially would not owe any extra money because the dealer will be buying up the remainder of what I owe on the car and I can put it into the new car. This almost seems like too good of a deal to be true and I feel that I must be totally missing something here.


I know I sound stupid here but does anyone have any thoughts on this?
You can sell the car from day 1 to the final day of your select term, typically 3/4/5 years. However the dealer will not be buying up the remainder that you owe. YOU are responsible for that amount and need to cut a check to BMW for the remainder balloon amount, or refinance it with someone.

Your quote was probably on a 5 year term? So if you want to move on after 3 years you still owe 2 years of principle plus the ~$27k balloon. You'll almost be guaranteed to be under on the value at that point.
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i really want to get back into an M3. i traded my 17 m3 for an 18 audi s5 a few months back and itching to get back into a 6 spd manual. there are plenty of M3s with manuals (5+) within a few hundred miles of me but it seems like all the leases are now $1k+?? seems awfully high; my $71K optioned M3 was only $830..
the residual is a massive 5% less. was hoping to get into something after my lease ends in a few months but it doesn't look good
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i really want to get back into an M3. i traded my 17 m3 for an 18 audi s5 a few months back and itching to get back into a 6 spd manual. there are plenty of M3s with manuals (5+) within a few hundred miles of me but it seems like all the leases are now $1k+?? seems awfully high; my $71K optioned M3 was only $830..
the residual is a massive 5% less. was hoping to get into something after my lease ends in a few months but it doesn't look good
Seriously. I'm being quoted $1100/month for a $79k m3...
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i really want to get back into an M3. i traded my 17 m3 for an 18 audi s5 a few months back and itching to get back into a 6 spd manual. there are plenty of M3s with manuals (5+) within a few hundred miles of me but it seems like all the leases are now $1k+?? seems awfully high; my $71K optioned M3 was only $830..
the residual is a massive 5% less. was hoping to get into something after my lease ends in a few months but it doesn't look good
Seriously. I'm being quoted $1100/month for a $79k m3...
Exactly why there are 939, 2018 M3's sitting on dealers lots and it's almost 2019...
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i really want to get back into an M3. i traded my 17 m3 for an 18 audi s5 a few months back and itching to get back into a 6 spd manual. there are plenty of M3s with manuals (5+) within a few hundred miles of me but it seems like all the leases are now $1k+?? seems awfully high; my $71K optioned M3 was only $830..
the residual is a massive 5% less. was hoping to get into something after my lease ends in a few months but it doesn't look good
Seriously. I'm being quoted $1100/month for a $79k m3...
Exactly why there are 939, 2018 M3's sitting on dealers lots and it's almost 2019...
Ya I've pretty much decided to get out of the leasing/perpetual payment game. When BMWs leased so well it made sense. It doesn't for me anymore. Looking to pick up an e90 m3 for around $30k and be done with payments
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      12-09-2018, 02:53 PM   #146
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My dealer told me the loyalty on the m3 is $750 and sent me this as proof.

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      12-09-2018, 03:58 PM   #147
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Lease credits have now been added to the 2018 M3 CS and 2019 M4 CS (could differ by region), so the numbers look like this as of today:

2018 M3 CS:

15k miles / 54% residual
12k miles / 56% residual
10k miles / 57% residual

$4000 lease credit (updated Dec 12)
$1000 loyalty credit (lease/APR)


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15k miles / 54% residual
12k miles / 56% residual
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$1500 lease credit (updated Dec 12)
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If only they would lower the damn MF!!!
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Just CS I think.
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Is this a good deal?

Vehicle Price: $76,395
discount: $4,000
Selling price: $72,395
out the door price: $79,962.93
36 months/10k lease
Residual $43,545
Total Rebate $6k

$2k out of pocket: $1020 per month
With all those discount and rebates, monthly still pretty high

please give some input. Thank you.
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Is this a good deal?

Vehicle Price: $76,395
discount: $4,000
Selling price: $72,395
out the door price: $79,962.93
36 months/10k lease
Residual $43,545
Total Rebate $6k

$2k out of pocket: $1020 per month
With all those discount and rebates, monthly still pretty high

please give some input. Thank you.
How is your selling price going from $72 to $79k?
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