How does the news that the G82 M4 will get an MT affect your plans for your F82 M4?

Negtvions · 12-01-2018, 02:25 PM

This recent news:

https://g20.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1560276

shifts my thinking toward buying out my 2018 M4 6MT comp pack. I’ll hold it until the G82 has hit its stride and they have made those minor updates that always seem to be needed with a new model. Then I’ll get into the new (and possibly last MT) M4.

I’m curious about what this news (in addition to rejoicing, I'm sure) has done for others on this forum.

NickyC · 12-01-2018, 09:11 PM

Fantastic news! However, any word on the rev matching mis"feature"? It looks like on 2018 models they force that crap on you even in Sport+, and if they continue to do so on the new M4s that will simply ruin it for me at least.

halfempty · 12-02-2018, 05:18 AM

I'm relieved that the manual is not dead yet, however regarding the OPs question of keeping the current f80 vs getting the next gen there may be some other factors to consider. Will the MT be offered with the possible Mxdrive awd system or only with rwd? Will there be absolutely no way to turn off rev matching? When higher performance versions are released, such as the zcp and CS, will they not get the MT? (Note that the current CS is dct only.) Will there be other things about the car that suck more, such as an EPS system with even less feel?

I'm eager to see the next gen but I'm also pretty happy with what I have now. In some ways, not having an available MT would make the whole decision much easier. I would just keep the f80 and enjoy rowing through the gears.

NickyC · 12-02-2018, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by halfempty

I'm relieved that the manual is not dead yet, however regarding the OPs question of keeping the current f80 vs getting the next gen there may be some other factors to consider. Will the MT be offered with the possible Mxdrive awd system or only with rwd? Will there be absolutely no way to turn off rev matching? When higher performance versions are released, such as the zcp and CS, will they not get the MT? (Note that the current CS is dct only.) Will there be other things about the car that suck more, such as an EPS system with even less feel?

I'm eager to see the next gen but I'm also pretty happy with what I have now. In some ways, not having an available MT would make the whole decision much easier. I would just keep the f80 and enjoy rowing through the gears.

Agreed, the cars as they sit right now are absolutely fantastic. They still look better than anything on the road in that price range and the performance is more than anybody needs for a street car. Not to mention they quality and longevity appears to be there, and let's face it that's not always the case with ///M cars!

I'm hopeful the new M4 will be another great car, but in the meantime I love what I have and plan on having it for many more years.

captainaudio · 12-02-2018, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by NickyC

Fantastic news! However, any word on the rev matching mis"feature"? It looks like on 2018 models they force that crap on you even in Sport+, and if they continue to do so on the new M4s that will simply ruin it for me at least.

I am perfectly satisfied with my DCT. I would consider an MT if the ability is there to disable auto rev match. If I get a transmission I want a manual transmission not a semi-manual transmission.

F83 · 12-02-2018, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by pheerIx

Well auto rev match used to be disabled in Sport+

It is on my car (2015) is that no longer true?

georgere · 12-02-2018, 06:31 PM

DCT spoiled me but overall BMW disappointed. Next gen m3/4 could be the reason I leave the brand. They better deliver. And yes got to have manual and everything better be good.

F83 · 12-02-2018, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by pheerIx

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Originally Posted by F83

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Originally Posted by pheerIx

Well auto rev match used to be disabled in Sport+

It is on my car (2015) is that no longer true?

Late 2018 models rev match in Sport+ for whatever reason.

What a dumb move. Between that and the loss of the carbon fiber drive shaft.... bad decisions at the end of this platform.

NickyC · 12-02-2018, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by F83

What a dumb move. Between that and the loss of the carbon fiber drive shaft.... bad decisions at the end of this platform.

Yep, I wouldn't buy a manual if you couldn't turn it off. Fingers crossed they leave it off for Sport+ on next gen M4!

CanAutM3 · 12-03-2018, 04:50 AM

For me, it is also combined with the question about the choice of automatic transmission. If BMW retain the DCT, I will likely go with that. If they go with a planetary auto, I will likely go manual.

G35POPPEDMYCHERRY · 12-03-2018, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by CanAutM3

For me, it is also combined with the question about the choice of automatic transmission. If BMW retain the DCT, I will likely go with that. If they go with a planetary auto, I will likely go manual.

Why.?....

cotmfk · 12-03-2018, 09:44 AM

I think it is good news for the brand they are continuing the manual. I was not even going to consider the G82, but now I will wait and see how the car is when it comes out.

Some things I will watch: weight, size, and that sometimes AWD system.

I was all set on keeping the F82 long term, so I am not in a rush to go G82 yet.

Negtvions · 12-04-2018, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by cotmfk

I think it is good news for the brand they are continuing the manual. I was not even going to consider the G82, but now I will wait and see how the car is when it comes out.

Some things I will watch: weight, size, and that sometimes AWD system.

I was all set on keeping the F82 long term, so I am not in a rush to go G82 yet.

Do you, or others on this thread who are considering keeping the car long term have any of that protective film to prevent damage on the hood, front, bumper, etc.?

cotmfk · 12-04-2018, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Negtvions

Do you, or others on this thread who are considering keeping the car long term have any of that protective film to prevent damage on the hood, front, bumper, etc.?

Protective film, wraps, etc. on a lot of the F8xs I know. Even for people doing leases/not intending to keep long term.

G35POPPEDMYCHERRY · 12-04-2018, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Negtvions

Do you, or others on this thread who are considering keeping the car long term have any of that protective film to prevent damage on the hood, front, bumper, etc.?

lol, it baffles me we someone would PPF a lease...you really think the paint will fuck up that bad over 3yrs...then again I have MW which hides everything.

Depends how anal you are about things. You could PPF your car and rock flying out a dump truck could take your whole hood with it. Or smash into your windshield... I have plenty of rock chips on my bumper and one on my hood

...but the cost of PPF doesnt seem valuable especially when it comes time to sell it, no one is going to care if you ppf'd it or have full leather....i mean they will bring nomial value. Nonetheless PPF is very effective and will protect that paint. But honestly how much dmage can you inflict on a paint job over 5-6 years thatll youll care at that time point....Others are different, but with the car switchitits I've seen on this fourm, IDK why someone of you take car of your cars, you are in something new next week !

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NCThreePedals · 12-04-2018, 04:27 PM

So much complaining about the rev match when it takes a couple minutes to enable/disable through coding without voiding anything on any drive mode.

Granted I TOTALLY agree that it should be a simple feature to turn on/off as desired and it is totally silly that it is not that way now but that would never be a deal breaker for me knowing there's a simple fix

Now it's simple fix this gen, may not be for the next.

Alpine300zhp · 12-06-2018, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by NickyC

Fantastic news! However, any word on the rev matching mis"feature"? It looks like on 2018 models they force that crap on you even in Sport+, and if they continue to do so on the new M4s that will simply ruin it for me at least.

Agreed. No MT for me unless they do away with this rev match atrocity or allow us to turn it off in the idrive.

Lee808 · 12-06-2018, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Negtvions

This recent news:

https://g20.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1560276

shifts my thinking toward buying out my 2018 M4 6MT comp pack. I'll hold it until the G82 has hit its stride and they have made those minor updates that always seem to be needed with a new model. Then I'll get into the new (and possibly last MT) M4.

I'm curious about what this news (in addition to rejoicing, I'm sure) has done for others on this forum.

I'll be doing the same. Keep my current F82 6mt until LCI/new updates are done and then buy new 6MT. Can't wait though. Excited to see how the new motor performs.

bmrwrld · 12-06-2018, 02:03 PM

This time DCT.

Tommy L Garage · 12-06-2018, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by NCThreePedals

So much complaining about the rev match when it takes a couple minutes to enable/disable through coding without voiding anything on any drive mode.

Granted I TOTALLY agree that it should be a simple feature to turn on/off as desired and it is totally silly that it is not that way now but that would never be a deal breaker for me knowing there's a simple fix

Now it's simple fix this gen, may not be for the next.

can't code it - has to be a flash tune

NCThreePedals · 12-06-2018, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Tommy L Garage

can't code it - has to be a flash tune

That's weird because I had Alex @ Alpine code mine, had nothing to do with a tune

Negtvions · 12-06-2018, 05:11 PM

As this thread is evolving to a discussion about how Rev Matching effects MT vs DCT preferences, I'll re-frame the question in a simple way:

Manual transmission (even if rev matching is unavoidable) vs DCT?

For me it would still be the MT. While I find the rev match to be odd and intrusive at times, I still do not get the same feel from driving a can with a DCT transmission. All performance numbers aside, I just don't feel as connected or engaged with the car.

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halfempty Private 26 Rep 73 Posts Drives: 2018 M3 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Long Island, NY iTrader: (0)	I'm relieved that the manual is not dead yet, however regarding the OPs question of keeping the current f80 vs getting the next gen there may be some other factors to consider. Will the MT be offered with the possible Mxdrive awd system or only with rwd? Will there be absolutely no way to turn off rev matching? When higher performance versions are released, such as the zcp and CS, will they not get the MT? (Note that the current CS is dct only.) Will there be other things about the car that suck more, such as an EPS system with even less feel? I'm eager to see the next gen but I'm also pretty happy with what I have now. In some ways, not having an available MT would make the whole decision much easier. I would just keep the f80 and enjoy rowing through the gears.
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NCThreePedals First Lieutenant 227 Rep 325 Posts Drives: 981 GT4/Audi Q8/F15 Diesel Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: St Pete, FL iTrader: (0)	So much complaining about the rev match when it takes a couple minutes to enable/disable through coding without voiding anything on any drive mode. Granted I TOTALLY agree that it should be a simple feature to turn on/off as desired and it is totally silly that it is not that way now but that would never be a deal breaker for me knowing there's a simple fix Now it's simple fix this gen, may not be for the next.
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