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      01-22-2014, 09:21 PM   #23
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cant wait to give that drifting a try! Its all good, I will have the tire insurance
A. Tire insurance is usually very expensive unless you get a very good ideal on M3s.
B. It won't cover wear and tear, its road hazard coverage.
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I wish we could actually hear the cars, awesome video but I feel like BMW is putting music on all these cool videos of the new M3/4 because they don't sound that 'musical'.
True, its a turbo 6 cylinder with a small displacement and they know their buyers will compare it against the outgoing V8, so they are always omitting the sounds in all these videos.
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I don't remember why the M3 is more aerodynamic... And isn't the M4's gravity center lower?
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cant wait to give that drifting a try! Its all good, I will have the tire insurance
A. Tire insurance is usually very expensive unless you get a very good ideal on M3s.
B. It won't cover wear and tear, its road hazard coverage.
Oh yes I know all that. I guess my Humor was not coming through clear enough. Thanks for commenting though!
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I don't remember why the M3 is more aerodynamic... And isn't the M4's gravity center lower?
Both were answered in our Q&A / interviews from Detroit - http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=934947
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Oh yes I know all that. I guess my Humor was not coming through clear enough. Thanks for commenting though!
Lol sorry:S
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If the sound is my least favorite part of the new car at this point in time my clear favorite is seeing this car on the track. The chassis and handling just looks that good.
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Both were answered in our Q&A / interviews from Detroit - http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=934947
Always found the sedan more balanced even in the current car
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I wish we could actually hear the cars, awesome video but I feel like BMW is putting music on all these cool videos of the new M3/4 because they don't sound that 'musical'.
welcome to the new BMW era.
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Is this a music video or a car video? An important hallmark of any high performance car is the sound. Everything about the car is perfect, except the sound. I know it's a 6 cylinder, but, unlike AMG, BMW seems to not make the effort to make their car sound good, its like they are forcing us to support companies like Akrapovic. Look at the CLA 45 AMG, only a 4 cylinder, but you can see the effort by the AMG boys to make it sound decent.
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Is this a music video or a car video? An important hallmark of any high performance car is the sound. Everything about the car is perfect, except the sound. I know it's a 6 cylinder, but, unlike AMG, BMW seems to not make the effort to make their car sound good, its like they are forcing us to support companies like Akrapovic. Look at the CLA 45 AMG, only a 4 cylinder, but you can see the effort by the AMG boys to make it sound decent.
AMG simply outsources to Eisenmann

Best sounding exhaust for Fxx M cars too IMO
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Is this a music video or a car video? An important hallmark of any high performance car is the sound. Everything about the car is perfect, except the sound. I know it's a 6 cylinder, but, unlike AMG, BMW seems to not make the effort to make their car sound good, its like they are forcing us to support companies like Akrapovic. Look at the CLA 45 AMG, only a 4 cylinder, but you can see the effort by the AMG boys to make it sound decent.
I think the F80 M3 is really exciting. I'm curious and surprised that so many BMW fans are so bent out of shape about the sound. Why? Never mind that they haven't even heard it, BMW M3s have never sounded good!

I used to own an E46 M3. It sounded weird, metallic, and raspy. I didn't much care for the sound. I thought the baffles might be loose and vibrating in the muffler.

Then I bought an E90 M3. It sounded a lot better than the E46 but it was still weird and raspy when compared to other V8s. I owned a C6 Corvette for example and it sounded way better than the S65. Way better. Need further proof that the E9x M3 didn't sound great? Look at the hundreds if not thousands of folks who immediately replace their E9x exhaust to make the car sound better.

Then I thought about an M5 when I started looking at the new M3 and you know what? That F10 M5 might be the worst sounding M car ever made.

So when the F80 M3 doesn't sound that great, are you really surprised? Or are you just disappointed and angry? Personally, I don't expect M cars to sound good because none of them do or ever have.

Time to move on, nothing to see here.

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I would certainly not say that previous M3's sounded bad. The word I would use is tame. The aftermarket supply simply offers different means of "unleashing" a more aggressive sound note from the cars.

With what we've heard of the F8X so far, not only is it tame, as most other M3's (and all M's) are, but it's flat out bad. In addition, the farting sounds are absolutely ridiculous.

Yes aftermarket options will improve the sound, but the baseline they are working with here is not very promising.
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Bmw, just give M3 to Chris Harris for review . Can´t wait anymore...
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Personally, I don't expect M cars to sound good because none of them do or ever have.

Time to move on, nothing to see here.

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My E39 M5 sounds great. You need to dig deeper.
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Does anyone else hate that BMW sound bite at the end of the video?? I'm starting to hate it :/
Absolutely hate it! Kills the end of every M video
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Is this a music video or a car video? An important hallmark of any high performance car is the sound. Everything about the car is perfect, except the sound. I know it's a 6 cylinder, but, unlike AMG, BMW seems to not make the effort to make their car sound good, its like they are forcing us to support companies like Akrapovic. Look at the CLA 45 AMG, only a 4 cylinder, but you can see the effort by the AMG boys to make it sound decent.
I think the F80 M3 is really exciting. I'm curious and surprised that so many BMW fans are so bent out of shape about the sound. Why? Never mind that they haven't even heard it, BMW M3s have never sounded good!

I used to own an E46 M3. It sounded weird, metallic, and raspy. I didn't much care for the sound. I thought the baffles might be loose and vibrating in the muffler.

Then I bought an E90 M3. It sounded a lot better than the E46 but it was still weird and raspy when compared to other V8s. I owned a C6 Corvette for example and it sounded way better than the S65. Way better. Need further proof that the E9x M3 didn't sound great? Look at the hundreds if not thousands of folks who immediately replace their E9x exhaust to make the car sound better.

Then I thought about an M5 when I started looking at the new M3 and you know what? That F10 M5 might be the worst sounding M car ever made.

So when the F80 M3 doesn't sound that great, are you really surprised? Or are you just disappointed and angry? Personally, I don't expect M cars to sound good because none of them do or ever have.

Time to move on, nothing to see here.

Pat
The E9X series has a mechanical sound to the V8 which makes it so unique and I've never heard 1 that didn't sound ridiculous coming down the road.
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now I'm really having a hard time to choose between 911, when will they hit the show room?
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Is this a music video or a car video? An important hallmark of any high performance car is the sound. Everything about the car is perfect, except the sound. I know it's a 6 cylinder, but, unlike AMG, BMW seems to not make the effort to make their car sound good, its like they are forcing us to support companies like Akrapovic. Look at the CLA 45 AMG, only a 4 cylinder, but you can see the effort by the AMG boys to make it sound decent.
Try E60 V10 M5 when you get a chance.
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