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      01-25-2021, 10:57 AM   #1255
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I am sorry, the DSC/MDM question was really for fanatic1, his brakes pads look really toasted. Your brakes pads look perfectly fine to me, just worn close to the point of needing to be replaced. The cracking is normal, it is the result of of quick thermal expansion and is not an issue (at least has never been for me) as long as they don't crumble.
No nannies on track except for the out lap or 2 in the wet

Welcome surprise yesterday when I wasn’t expecting it. Fair amount of traffic, so was alternating hot laps and cool down/passing laps. Checked the data and PB, big time! Yoko A052 and MCS 1 way get along pretty well.

First time trying 2 tracks and 2 different organizations in the same day. Willow Springs international tracks are adjacent it makes this possible as you can probably see in the image. What a blast and newfound respect for endurance racing. Of course, the day wouldn’t be complete without fuel pick up issues - ran below 1/2 tank.
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I am sorry, the DSC/MDM question was really for fanatic1, his brakes pads look really toasted. Your brakes pads look perfectly fine to me, just worn close to the point of needing to be replaced. The cracking is normal, it is the result of of quick thermal expansion and is not an issue (at least has never been for me) as long as they don't crumble.
No nannies on track except for the out lap or 2 in the wet

Welcome surprise yesterday when I wasn’t expecting it. Fair amount of traffic, so was alternating hot laps and cool down/passing laps. Checked the data and PB, big time! Yoko A052 and MCS 1 way get along pretty well.

First time trying 2 tracks and 2 different organizations in the same day. Willow Springs international tracks are adjacent it makes this possible as you can probably see in the image. What a blast and newfound respect for endurance racing. Of course, the day wouldn’t be complete without fuel pick up issues - ran below 1/2 tank.
Nah no MDM for me even in the wet. I run a decent pace and completed the MSF level 1 verification to start coaching.

For me it has been random when the pads just decide to chuck off and separate from the backing plate.

Also lots of time at PBIR which is a short course with a long straight and heavy breaking zone.
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Homestead Miami Infield 1:45.9

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BTW awesome thread. I can't get enough of watching these videos.
Nice I did a 1:45.1 on my 1st and only day out there. 6mt civic with RS4 and PFC08. This was back in July with lots of traffic. Haven't been back since.
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No nannies on track except for the out lap or 2 in the wet

Welcome surprise yesterday when I wasn’t expecting it. Fair amount of traffic, so was alternating hot laps and cool down/passing laps. Checked the data and PB, big time! Yoko A052 and MCS 1 way get along pretty well.
Nice! Sorry, I'm missing it. What were your gains with MCS?

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Nice I did a 1:45.1 on my 1st and only day out there. 6mt civic with RS4 and PFC08. This was back in July with lots of traffic. Haven't been back since.
Take a box fan + outlets in the garages are the only way to survive summer track days at Homestead or Sebring. Think if I showed and no garages available, I'd just leave.
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[QUOTE=FormulaMMM;27159151]Nice! Sorry, I'm missing it. What were your gains with MCS?

Most of the 2+ seconds gained would be attributed to MCS, was in the 25’s at the Porsche club event prior to install. Have to believe some of the gain is tires, these Yoko are fast.

The most exciting part - predictive lap timer showed 1:22x before hitting traffic (more than once).

Looking forward to seeing similar gains at Buttonwillow next weekend.
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PFC 08 go to 800°C; Ferodo DS1.11 go to 700°C

Looking at max pad temps alone, the Ferodo DS1.11 should be worse than the PFC 08. Alternatively, the DS3.12 has a max temp of 850°C. Hawk & Carbotech & G-Loc (very similar to Carbotech, started by a Carbotech family member) all have higher temp range pads which u might be interested in!
Thank you! Is there a particular pad you would recommend that you have personal experience with? Thanks !
I'm currently using the new-ish EBC RP-X pad, tops out at 850°C I believe. Works well on my half CCB setup with the Girodisc 400mm Iron rotors up front. Previous experience with Hawk & Carbotech & Endless track pads.
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Nice man! I was there this weekend too in my M4 CS.
I was able to get 2:35.9 during the happy hour, but got held up in traffic in a few places so definitely room for more. Catalyst said my optimal lap was 2:33.72, personal best is 2:34.86 on fresher tires in December.
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Nice man! I was there this weekend too in my M4 CS.
I was able to get 2:35.9 during the happy hour, but got held up in traffic in a few places so definitely room for more. Catalyst said my optimal lap was 2:33.72, personal best is 2:34.86 on fresher tires in December.
Thanks! Ya - I was running 2:36-2:37 on Sunday afternoon and was finally able to get a 2:34.9 and 2:34.5 during the Sunday happy hour. The traffic this weekend was crazy - it's tough trying to navigate working through some of the slower cars along with those bonkers cars (e.g., Trans AM cars, Cup Cars, and the insane GT2 RS Clubsport closing in pretty damn fast)...

I love the Catalyst optimal lap feature - gives me the constant encouragement of the "art of the possible" if I string it all together. It's made a huge improvement in my laptimes and overall fun for the weekends @ the track.

You going out for Edge in March?
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Nice man! I was there this weekend too in my M4 CS.
I was able to get 2:35.9 during the happy hour, but got held up in traffic in a few places so definitely room for more. Catalyst said my optimal lap was 2:33.72, personal best is 2:34.86 on fresher tires in December.
Thanks! Ya - I was running 2:36-2:37 on Sunday afternoon and was finally able to get a 2:34.9 and 2:34.5 during the Sunday happy hour. The traffic this weekend was crazy - it's tough trying to navigate working through some of the slower cars along with those bonkers cars (e.g., Trans AM cars, Cup Cars, and the insane GT2 RS Clubsport closing in pretty damn fast)...

I love the Catalyst optimal lap feature - gives me the constant encouragement of the "art of the possible" if I string it all together. It's made a huge improvement in my laptimes and overall fun for the weekends @ the track.

You going out for Edge in March?
Unfortunately I'll be out of town that weekend. Will most likely be back with Chin in April.
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It hurts that I can't post here any more

I despise the corvetteforum.
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I despise the corvetteforum.
Why stop? You used to own one, that means lifetime membership.

Always interesting to see what other platforms will do anyways.

Maybe someone will find your Vette content insulting, things turn inflammatory. It'll be fun.
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Guaranteed.... I've got -5 seconds on the fastest lap time here at Sebring on my first visit there.

There's no way this could go well.
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Guaranteed.... I've got -5 seconds on the fastest lap time here at Sebring on my first visit there.

There's no way this could go well.
Blasphemy, off with his head!

Miss the twin content from the other coast
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Blasphemy, off with his head!

Miss the twin content from the other coast


Look how worn out the hat I'm wearing today is!
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It hurts that I can't post here any more

I despise the corvetteforum.
Feel free to post here. Unlike others, once you've moved on from BMW you don't spend your day bashing how terrible they are.
There's more than one person who does this all the time.

So as far as I'm concerned you can post your laptime info here all you want, regardless of what you drive
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Feel free to post here. Unlike others, once you've moved on from BMW you don't spend your day bashing how terrible they are.
There's more than one person who does this all the time.

So as far as I'm concerned you can post your laptime info here all you want, regardless of what you drive
Only those f'in brakes.

It's only a matter of time before I can find a salvage F8x and race spec it.

I'm an equal opportunity roaster, which heavily includes Corvettes.
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Guaranteed.... I've got -5 seconds on the fastest lap time here at Sebring on my first visit there.

There's no way this could go well.
Aw hell, and we're off...

That's a solid time too. Always thought reviewers were probably being overdramatic about how unmanageable the C7 Z is.
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Aw hell, and we're off...

That's a solid time too. Always thought reviewers were probably being overdramatic about how unmanageable the C7 Z is.
In all fairness, NYG is faster/better driver than most people. The Z may be too much to handle for people with lesser abilities.
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I never planned to track the Z, I just wanted a nutty ass street car.
So after my M4 was in the shop for exhaust rattle covered under warranty.
This happened.

Personally, it’s easier for me to drive my Z06 faster than My M4 at the local track by 2 seconds. Z06 on run-flats, M4 on Re71 or NT01 plus camber plates.
It’s not about top speed into a corner, the tuned M4 has higher straight line speeds. I should say near similar speed.
It’s about the turn in confidence into a corner, Z feels really stable for me.
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Lies.

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I never planned to track the Z, I just wanted a nutty ass street car.
So after my M4 was in the shop for exhaust rattle covered under warranty.
This happened.

Personally, it’s easier for me to drive my Z06 faster than My M4 at the local track by 2 seconds. Z06 on run-flats, M4 on Re71 or NT01 plus camber plates.
It’s not about top speed into a corner, the tuned M4 has higher straight line speeds. I should say near similar speed.
It’s about the turn in confidence into a corner, Z feels really stable for me.
I get a little bit of both from the Z06. The mechanical grip and brakes are ridiculous out of the factory. I'm still getting used to the corner entry speeds because every time I think I'm at the limit, there's so much more available.

But, I don't know if you ever tried running it with assists fully off, not Track - Race mode. It's like driving a bucking bull - really easy to get lost on the low end torque out of corners. The Z is scary approaching the limits. The nice thing is the PTM modes are really good for those that don't want to play with fire.

On the opposite side, I've never been more confident in a car than I was in the M4CS - even with the shit stock suspension I had. Say what you want about the electronic steering but comfort mode steering input on the track was orgasmic. You always felt like you were in control. The car wanted you to be at the limit.

Feels reaaaaaaaaaaaally good to be in a manual again though. The sound of the Z is intoxicating too. I'm genuinely jealous that you have both - I was trying to figure out a way to keep both but knew I couldn't.

Only thing that won't change between both cars is that I'm still a child:

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I get a little bit of both from the Z06. The mechanical grip and brakes are ridiculous out of the factory. I'm still getting used to the corner entry speeds because every time I think I'm at the limit, there's so much more available.

But, I don't know if you ever tried running it with assists fully off, not Track - Race mode. It's like driving a bucking bull - really easy to get lost on the low end torque out of corners. The Z is scary approaching the limits. The nice thing is the PTM modes are really good for those that don't want to play with fire.
I don't think there's time to be gained in the Z/28 all off vs. Race traction setting. I was no faster all off. But unlike Z06 it wasn't any less controllable all off vs. Race.

Vid covers part of my favorite section at Sebring. From Cunningham (T10) to exit of Le Mans (T16) is fricking bliss if you get it all right.
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