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04-04-2014, 12:00 PM | #133 |
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04-04-2014, 12:06 PM | #134 | |
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think about what you are asking.. how many generations do you think that it will take before BMW can make a metal folding hardtop roof as light as a cloth roof with a metal frame.. ? Even if the base weights of the vehicles themselves (before roof) were to get back to identical, the different construction for the roof is of course going to cause the newer model to weigh more. So.. the logical answer to your question, is.. likely.. NEVER..... However.... the question itself certainly seems to have an unrealistic expectation. |
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04-04-2014, 12:36 PM | #136 | |
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Good points, although I have 2 thoughts in mind here: 1) Rumor has it that the next-gen Mercedes SL is switching BACK to a folding soft top. I realize that the M3/M4 convertibles follow the 3-series/4-series convertible design but perhaps they might switch back at some point as well. There's clearly a reason for Mercedes to make the switch back (it's not clear what it is right now, especially given its GT nature?) but perhaps that will start a trend... 2) What's probably the MOST realistic scenario is that 1-2 gens from now we'll see a CFRP top on the M4 convertible, which might not shed the full 300-400 lbs needed but might close the gap significantly. That's how I think my "unrealistic expectation" will become a reality. Will I need to be patient? YES. But I would bet on us seeing this become a reality within 2 gens... Regardless, here's to hoping that their weight savings "focus" proves to be more fruitful for the next gen... |
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You hit the nail on the head (twice). |
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04-04-2014, 01:56 PM | #139 |
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;-) Looked far to "heavy" in MG, should look excellent in a lighter colour, the last two pics of the invidual blue colour made the car proper imo!
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04-04-2014, 02:35 PM | #141 |
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Engine power is approximately 317.05 KW and depending on if you consider 1 HP = 0.736 KW or 1 hp = 0.746 kW get that power is 431 HP and 425 HP respectively.
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04-04-2014, 02:41 PM | #142 |
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I still don't understand why BMW can't put in LED taillights in these new M3s and M4s, yet the DTM M4s already have them before before we even take delivery of our pre-lci's.
Can anybody explain this?? Do they really purposely leave out the taillights so they have changes to make for the LCI? Is this also what happened with the previous generation? Pre-lci on the E9X looked horrible, but I wouldn't think they purposely design non-led taillights so that they can add led ones for lci. Great logic, BMW, once again. |
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04-04-2014, 07:01 PM | #146 | |
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At this point it is pathetic no doubt, especially when other cars are coming with them standard now. But it's what BMW does. |
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04-04-2014, 07:49 PM | #147 | |
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No production car is made for "serious driving" - these cars are built for weekend warriors and wannabes (yeah, yeah, you can gut it, mod it, etc etc, but then it's not an M3 coupe anymore; how many people on this board have done that and use their coupe as a dedicated track car?) I love my e93 and I'm not a 'serious driver' - I don't track, only canyon drive, but if I did track I'd have a track car not an M3 coupe with A/C & bluetooth. I would define "serious driving" as professional and pro-am; and those people have dedicated track rigs. The rest of us are just hobbyists in some form or another. Flame on : ) |
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04-04-2014, 08:30 PM | #148 |
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Love the individual Tanzanite over Opal. If they offered that on the M3 I'm afraid I'd have to trade in our 335i !
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04-04-2014, 08:42 PM | #150 |
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04-05-2014, 01:31 AM | #151 |
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I was on the fence with this one. But now seeing it in motion, I am a fan.
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04-05-2014, 06:45 AM | #152 |
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Led headlights = win
Halogen bulb taillights = gay
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M4 looks good but the 435 is also good ... Driving it will only tell if it justifies double the fun for double the $$$ (or close to)
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