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      05-24-2019, 04:46 PM   #1
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Best dealership to lease an M4 from in SoCal?

Any perspective on which are the most aggressive dealers in Southern California? I'm looking to lease a MY18 or MY19 M4 (new). Given the G80/82 will be out next year, I think a new lease only makes sense if I can get a very aggressive deal.
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Steve Thomas BMW is a good place for a great deal.
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Since you are in OC, start with Irvine BMW first then work your way towards the valley dealerships.

Steve Thomas and GOLFFRRR are well known here but that dealership is super far from you.
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Any perspective on which are the most aggressive dealers in Southern California? I'm looking to lease a MY18 or MY19 M4 (new). Given the G80/82 will be out next year, I think a new lease only makes sense if I can get a very aggressive deal.
Limited production and high demand vehicles do not get "aggressive pricing" because they're money-makers. It's not even year-end. Everyone is paying at least MSRP for an M-car. If anyone tells you otherwise they're lying or don't understand they just got contracted into an additional 2.0 points in the Finance Office.

If you're a returning lessee you may qualify for a $1000.00 loyalty incentive. I'd highly recommend returning to the dealer you bought your current BMW through as they're motivated to retain your business. Otherwise you may have to go out of state. But, you really want to go through that effort to save $500?
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Any perspective on which are the most aggressive dealers in Southern California? I'm looking to lease a MY18 or MY19 M4 (new). Given the G80/82 will be out next year, I think a new lease only makes sense if I can get a very aggressive deal.
Limited production and high demand vehicles do not get "aggressive pricing" because they're money-makers. It's not even year-end. Everyone is paying at least MSRP for an M-car. If anyone tells you otherwise they're lying or don't understand they just got contracted into an additional 2.0 points in the Finance Office.

If you're a returning lessee you may qualify for a $1000.00 loyalty incentive. I'd highly recommend returning to the dealer you bought your current BMW through as they're motivated to retain your business. Otherwise you may have to go out of state. But, you really want to go through that effort to save $500?
Just like how the limited production CS doesn't get aggressive discounts, right?
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Any perspective on which are the most aggressive dealers in Southern California? I'm looking to lease a MY18 or MY19 M4 (new). Given the G80/82 will be out next year, I think a new lease only makes sense if I can get a very aggressive deal.
Come in to Sterling BMW in Newport. Maybe we can work something out for you. We got a 6 MT white M4 with Ceramic Brakes. Let me know if interested.
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Any perspective on which are the most aggressive dealers in Southern California? I'm looking to lease a MY18 or MY19 M4 (new). Given the G80/82 will be out next year, I think a new lease only makes sense if I can get a very aggressive deal.
Limited production and high demand vehicles do not get "aggressive pricing" because they're money-makers. It's not even year-end. Everyone is paying at least MSRP for an M-car. If anyone tells you otherwise they're lying or don't understand they just got contracted into an additional 2.0 points in the Finance Office.

If you're a returning lessee you may qualify for a $1000.00 loyalty incentive. I'd highly recommend returning to the dealer you bought your current BMW through as they're motivated to retain your business. Otherwise you may have to go out of state. But, you really want to go through that effort to save $500?
Yeah that's way off.

I was $500 under invoice/wholesale pricing with loyalty. I didn't pay anywhere close to MSRP.

If you know who to talk to, who to ask, you wouldn't pay MSRP for most cars. All it takes is due diligence, some homework and some patience.
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South Bay, try Steven Marx
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South Bay, try Steven Marx
I bought my m3 from him.
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Agree, I did European Delivery and he was all over it, knowledgeable and fair.
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Limited production and high demand vehicles do not get "aggressive pricing" because they're money-makers. It's not even year-end. Everyone is paying at least MSRP for an M-car. If anyone tells you otherwise they're lying or don't understand they just got contracted into an additional 2.0 points in the Finance Office.

If you're a returning lessee you may qualify for a $1000.00 loyalty incentive. I'd highly recommend returning to the dealer you bought your current BMW through as they're motivated to retain your business. Otherwise you may have to go out of state. But, you really want to go through that effort to save $500?
Do you really believe this? I just paid invoice and got almost $10k in rebates from BMW on top of that for a 2019 M4. That said, your attitude is definitely shared by some of the dealers I emailed, so I just didnít buy a car from them.

OP, Iíd help you identify a place, but Iím a long way away from California.
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Any perspective on which are the most aggressive dealers in Southern California? I'm looking to lease a MY18 or MY19 M4 (new). Given the G80/82 will be out next year, I think a new lease only makes sense if I can get a very aggressive deal.


You may already know this... but some good info here>
https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/bmw-leasing-wiki/10783

Come in prepared to ANY dealership... and you can qualify for a loyalty credit because your pre-existing agreement is with BWMFS, not said dealer..

I recently got a smoking deal from Encinitas BMW. they had a good amount of M cars in some really nice specs (theyre an m performance dealer).. since CS's are sitting you may be able to get a decent deal

put down as many MSDs as you can afford
money factor is set by BMWFS but can be manipulated by the dealer

also - are you a member of BMWCCA?

https://www.bmwcca.org/vehicle_rebate

I wish i had known about this before.. if you lease a new car, or buy cpo and are a member (over 1yr or buy a 3 year membership $134 i believe) you can get a rebate .. unfortunately i found out about this after the fact lol
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Steve Thomas and GOLFFRRR are well known here but that dealership is super far from you.
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OP if you need any help you can always shoot me a PM. Im on here everyday till 545pm and Jimmy Bach is one of our best sales reps who we also have handle all the forum members. you can shoot him a email anytime jbach@stevethomasbmw.com if you would like a no hassle quote. hope you have a great rest of your holiday weekend
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Thanks everyone for the very helpful responses! And special thanks to Kai, Paul, and Jimmy for offering to help.

I'm 80% of the way with a different dealer so I wouldn't feel right doing business elsewhere at this point in the negotiation. If that falls through, though, you're getting a call!
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Limited production and high demand vehicles do not get "aggressive pricing" because they're money-makers. It's not even year-end. Everyone is paying at least MSRP for an M-car. If anyone tells you otherwise they're lying or don't understand they just got contracted into an additional 2.0 points in the Finance Office.

If you're a returning lessee you may qualify for a $1000.00 loyalty incentive. I'd highly recommend returning to the dealer you bought your current BMW through as they're motivated to retain your business. Otherwise you may have to go out of state. But, you really want to go through that effort to save $500?
Gotta respectfully disagree here. You can get significant discounts below MSRP with a little bit of research and persistence. OP just has to let the fingers to the work and call around. Granted, the M4 is tougher than the M3 was, but still, you can see deals right now in the pricing forum. If the OP knows how the numbers work, the dealer won't be able to tack on interest or MFs to make up the deal. Just gotta do the homework.

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Thanks everyone for the very helpful responses! And special thanks to Kai, Paul, and Jimmy for offering to help.

I'm 80% of the way with a different dealer so I wouldn't feel right doing business elsewhere at this point in the negotiation. If that falls through, though, you're getting a call!
Loyalty is earned, not given out of obligation. Right now, especially at 80% though the process, call around other dealers and shop your numbers around. If another dealer can match/beat, then return to your original and tell them. Then they will have a chance to truly earn your loyalty. I've purchased and leased 8 different cars in the past 7 years, 6 of them were bimmers. I only gave 1 dealership my repeat business simply because they earned it. To me, loyalty means that if they can only match other dealers, I will go to them out of loyalty, but nothing less than that.

edit: just to add, always be respectful. It does take the sales rep time and effort to hammer out a deal, but at the same time, that's the SR's job. Do your homework, know the numbers and how financing/leasing works.
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