Anyone else get banned from the G8X section for making fun of its looks?

icegrill · 10-04-2022, 06:32 PM

pAgE 911!??? Bore me with Porsche dealer pics

No Boost · 10-04-2022, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Humdizzle

i think people have learned to get passed the looks and judge the car on the driving. and by most accounts its a better street car than the f80 in terms or ride, steering feel, and chassis that can put down power.

but i think the other side of it is the used market inflating a ton and financing rates being terrible. used sports cars are just more difficult to get now. many who were looking to jump to porsche after bmw just can't justify it right now at these prices.

Post # 20,000. You win the internet today.

Multimodal · 10-04-2022, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by icegrill

pAgE 911!??? Bore me with Porsche dealer pics

clutchdj · 10-04-2022, 10:10 PM

I’ll take the GT1 for $200

NickyC · 10-04-2022, 10:11 PM

I completely change my stance on the new GT3 RS. Now that I've actually seen it in motion I think it's absolutely beautiful, maybe even better than the prior model which is unbelievable. Pause this video at 2:38, what an unbelievably beautiful machine.

M3WC · 10-04-2022, 10:25 PM

Going to be nightmare detailing one of those, with all the aero pieces.

Arcades · 10-04-2022, 11:00 PM

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Going to be nightmare detailing one of those, with all the aero pieces.

yeah...

My detailer knows very well about my interest in the 4RS and he is but also isn't looking forward into dealing with detailing that either.

WWM3 · 10-04-2022, 11:03 PM

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It's changed it's class from "street legal race car" to "luxury sedan" further blurring the line between the 3/4 and 5.

The E30 M3 was the only M3 that was ever "street legal race car." The M3 has been a high-performance entry-level luxury car since the E36, which was introduced 27 years ago now. I don't think the G80 really moves that far away from what the M3 has "always" been, relative to the rest of the market (almost every car from every manufacturer has gotten bigger and heavier over time). On an inflation-adjusted basis its base price is also right in line with what the M3 has cost since the E9x was introduced in the late 2000s.

Maybe base price, but there are now competition and competition xDrive models that are significantly more expensive (and popular). In addition, there is the M4 model which is more expensive yet. I'm assuming you used the M3 base for your analysis? Its a guess, but I would think that the average transaction price far exceeds the E9X inflation-adjusted benchmark you cited.

Tecnniqe · 10-04-2022, 11:59 PM

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You're not the only one

I've got one just like this on order. M3 in Individual San Marino Blue with M Carbon Buckets in Silverstone Full Leather. Unless I buy a used Porsche first ��

Gorgeous

I mean... uh..... you do you man...

What's the general sentiment here though 2 years later? Still the same or have people come around to the G8X a bit more after the initial shock? Admittedly I don't have the BMW pedigree in my history of car ownership to have as passionate a view on it as many others I'm sure have had, so while I played along with some of the jokes in the beginning, the G8x never truly bothered me. And I've come to really like it... to now me being super excited for what might be my final opportunity to own a new 6MT car.

Pretty much everything about the G8X bothers me, except it's performance numbers.

The design is still terrible and it's not cohesive.
The gearbox is weak, be it a silly ZF or a underrated 6MT.
Weight.
It's changed it's class from "street legal race car" to "luxury sedan" further blurring the line between the 3/4 and 5.
Digital dash is really bad.
2023> stupid ass wide screens and no cockpit.

List goes on and on.

On the bright side, it's better than the new M2, although that's not saying much

Sad thing is I don't see myself getting another BMW again, unless it's an F80 which I'm very much looking at right now trying to find the right one.

I don't like what BMW is doing and I've always been a BMW guy at heart and as glorious as a V8 is I'm still a Inline-6 diehard dummy.
I've considered a wagon C63S and a Guilia Quadrafoglio but they both don't scratch that F80 feeling, and I'll need a sedan.
Although I'm tired of getting grouped in with the shit kids with $70k loans on their banks 2015MY car trying to kill everyone around them.
Porsche is unfortunately out of the option unless I'd get a taycan which I won't as it's boring, although I'd love a Macan GTS

Hmmm! So if the M3 was considered a street legal race car to you, then what do you consider the GT Porsches of the world?!?

Porsche GT is streetier legalier racier car

That being said to me the M generations have always felt a little like that to me, bit raw and wild and right now the leap don't make me feel that way, it feels more like a luxurious car and less like a race car.

But it is what it is and it's not to detract anything from the car itself since that is emotion/feeling based, it just isn't for me.

Multimodal · 10-04-2022, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by WWM3

Maybe base price, but there are now competition and competition xDrive models that are significantly more expensive (and popular). In addition, there is the M4 model which is more expensive yet. I'm assuming you used the M3 base for your analysis? Its a guess, but I would think that the average transaction price far exceeds the E9X inflation-adjusted benchmark you cited.

That’s true but options are a choice. It would only be fair to include them if the base vehicle had been decontented, but I don’t think it has.

The real lesson here is inflation sucks.

swagon · 10-05-2022, 04:12 AM

Harris' review of the GT3 RS was mediocre at best.

clutchdj · 10-05-2022, 06:41 AM

He was probably thinking about his m5cs :-)

cotmfk · 10-05-2022, 09:04 AM

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pAgE 911!??? Bore me with Porsche dealer pics

We have to get off this page quickly before we all spend too much money on a car. LOLLL

RugbyBro · 10-05-2022, 09:12 AM

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We have to get off this page quickly before we all spend too much money on a car. LOLLL

Sedan_Clan · 10-05-2022, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by swagon

Harris' review of the GT3 RS was mediocre at best.

Do you have a link to his review?

swagon · 10-05-2022, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Do you have a link to his review?

RugbyBro · 10-05-2022, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by M3WC

Going to be nightmare detailing one of those, with all the aero pieces.

The only detailing it needs is lots of tire rubber all over the front end

M3WC · 10-05-2022, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by RugbyBro

The only detailing it needs is lots of tire rubber all over the front end

Oh I agree, these need to driven. Although I wouldn't hit the track before it is detailed and full ppf applied. This car is going to be a detailers and ppf installers nightmare.

kyrix1st · 10-05-2022, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Maboomba

The E30 M3 was the only M3 that was ever "street legal race car." The M3 has been a high-performance entry-level luxury car since the E36, which was introduced 27 years ago now. I don't think the G80 really moves that far away from what the M3 has "always" been, relative to the rest of the market (almost every car from every manufacturer has gotten bigger and heavier over time). On an inflation-adjusted basis its base price is also right in line with what the M3 has cost since the E9x was introduced in the late 2000s.

I disagree with this. E36 M3 3.0 Euro (especially the GT variant) was essentially a street legal DTM race car with all the luxurious goods that could be easily stripped if desired. It is so easy to tune them even to this day thanks to the tune-friendly platform and the abundance of parts.
Gan-san's description of the Schnitzer's E36 M3 best demonstrates how solid this platform was, as he called it "the ultimate RWD machine" at the time.

Arcades · 10-05-2022, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by swagon

Harris' review of the GT3 RS was mediocre at best.

The problem is it takes someone that knows what they are doing with the GT3 RS to get the most out of it. Most regular folks don't, they don't track so none of the little things are going to matter aside from it being "neat."

Humdizzle · 10-05-2022, 05:14 PM

like he said in the review... its hard to convey the feeling of downforce to the average person. which is what the car is built on. people care more about a car that can run a 9 second quarter mile or do 0-60 in 2.5 than a car that can pull 2g through a corner or brake from 100-0 in 100ft.

Sedan_Clan · 10-05-2022, 05:42 PM

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like he said in the review... its hard to convey the feeling of downforce to the average person. which is what the car is built on. people care more about a car that can run a 9 second quarter mile or do 0-60 in 2.5 than a car that can pull 2g through a corner or brake from 100-0 in 100ft.

Be careful! It's bad to generalize, so I've been told.

I'm poking.

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