2015 M4 vs 2016 Camaro SS

[shortseller]

Originally Posted by gthal

I didn't say others don't care about it... I said that I don't really care (other than for interest sake)

I really can't remember the last time I've raced anyone... maybe in my 20's. That doesn't mean I haven't buried the speedo but not in a race. I always turn the other cheek cause I know I can take them if I really wanted to and there is satisfaction in not needing to bother.

[///F80M3]

I went to dealer to check it out couple years ago and i felt claustrophobic when I sat inside. I immediately got out and left the dealer lol

[Mspired]

Other than the performance, I don't see how the Camaro even compares to the M4. Not even on the same level in terms of build quality, exterior or interior looks.

[mc3456]

The Camaro and Mustang are huge improvements from the prior generations, but I'd never choose one over a BMW M3/M4...EVER!

[AIRPOWER]

Originally Posted by mc3456

The Camaro and Mustang are huge improvements from the prior generations, but I'd never choose one over a BMW M3/M4...EVER!

+1......again its apples and oranges, its like comparing a Kawasaki and a Harley, both are motorcycles so they must be the same right??????

[shortseller]

Originally Posted by AIRPOWER

+1......again its apples and oranges, its like comparing a Kawasaki and a Harley, both are motorcycles so they must be the same right??????

Both are right, but for different reasons.

[04cobra]

I still prefer the new Mustang over the Camaro. The m3/4 is still faster than both

[Sassicaia]

Originally Posted by gthal

Just noticed your forum name... had a 1989 bottle from the cellar last night. Quite enjoyable although it might have been even better a couple of years ago

Wow... that was off topic OP Sorry.

Nice! 1 year off one of the best vintages off all time for Sassicaia (88).

First time I got my wife to fool around with another woman was when I got them drunk of Sassicaia. The wine holds a special place in my heart

[gthal]

Originally Posted by Sassicaia

Nice! 1 year off one of the best vintages off all time for Sassicaia (88).

First time I got my wife to fool around with another woman was when I got them drunk of Sassicaia. The wine holds a special place in my heart

My father-in-law (with whom I enjoyed the bottle) very much enjoyed this response

[mc3456]

Originally Posted by Sassicaia

Nice! 1 year off one of the best vintages off all time for Sassicaia (88).

First time I got my wife to fool around with another woman was when I got them drunk of Sassicaia. The wine holds a special place in my heart

This thread has suddenly taken a turn for the better and become much more interesting!

[hellrotm]

Originally Posted by StraightUpFitness

If it drives anything like the current 1LE, then it'll make you smile.

And on a white SS with some black-powdercoated rims, this will look cool. And it should make for an awesome little track car. Cheap repairs so you can hoonigan all you want.

Yeah, the mustang and camaro will be fantastic track car options in a few years. Now that the mustang has a proper suspension and the camaro has dropped some weight. 2-3 years let them take the huge depreciation hit. Then snap one up, strip it out. Reliable, cheap dedicated track car. Like you said if the SS drives like the 1LE like GM says, should be nice package.

[cars88]

Just doesn't have a polished look inside and out, no sex appeal in my eyes.

[Acturater]

Originally Posted by azzurro

Looks awful from the front, back, left side, right side, top view, underneath view, HDR view, 3d view, black and white view, from space view, underwater view...Instagram couldn't make this POS look good.

Seriously! These American cars are getting better in every regard but their looks!

[/// M sa]

Sat in one the blind spots are horrible the cockpit is cramped and the cat as a whole looks really ugly...

[ixse]

Wow least that puts it right around 3650lb or so for v8 w vett engine. Yea yea ergonomics and stuff are whatever.. But this is muscle car.. Best bang for the buck type.. Mid 40k car that can put many more expensive cars to shame in perf dept

[shortseller]

Originally Posted by ixse

Wow least that puts it right around 3650lb or so for v8 w vett engine. Yea yea ergonomics and stuff are whatever.. But this is muscle car.. Best bang for the buck type.. Mid 40k car that can put many more expensive cars to shame in perf dept

Agreed. American muscle has never been so good. Looks and interior still need work to catch up to the euro stuff but motor and handling are most certainly of worthy comsideration .

[bravm3pwr]

Originally Posted by ///F80M3

I went to dealer to check it out couple years ago and i felt claustrophobic when I sat inside. I immediately got out and left the dealer lol

Totally agree with this. I travel lots and driven in the Camaro, Mustang and Chrysler Challenger. The best out of the three is the Mustang.

With that said, anyone who thinks the above 3 compares to the M3/4 is delusional. Different class of car.

[///M3Owner]

Only thing I like on this is the interior

[Zeroblade]

I miss the look of the '09 Camaro. I know the redesign has better down force etc etc but I dun care. Funny Ford did the same with new Mustang for me.

If I had it my way, I'd take the old car looks with the new car interior/improvements for both.

[pikkagtr]

Originally Posted by ixse

Wow least that puts it right around 3650lb or so for v8 w vett engine. Yea yea ergonomics and stuff are whatever.. But this is muscle car.. Best bang for the buck type.. Mid 40k car that can put many more expensive cars to shame in perf dept

Mid $20ks or less in about 3-4 yrs you can pick one up for a good track budget car

[azzurro]

Originally Posted by Sassicaia

Nice! 1 year off one of the best vintages off all time for Sassicaia (88).

First time I got my wife to fool around with another woman was when I got them drunk of Sassicaia. The wine holds a special place in my heart

We'll have to talk wine sometime. All of the Antinori wines are great. My next favorite is Tignanello followed by Solaia. I have two cases of Tignanello in my cellar 2007, 2008 & 2009.

[yaymitch]

Originally Posted by /// M sa

Sat in one the blind spots are horrible the cockpit is cramped and the cat as a whole looks really ugly...

I was never able to get past this.