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https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...e-test-review/ And here is a Dct M4 at 3615. Both of those had CF roof too so you can add another 50 if someone did happen to add sunroof. https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...c-test-review/ Add AWD alone and you’re probably looking at an m3 that is ~3900 lbs. Add the new safety requirement, particulate filters, larger footprint (g20 is 2.5 inches longer alone) more equipment and tech and I think the car is going to be around 4000 lbs. I think the C63S coupe is plenty track ready out of the box and the Alfa Quad is too in this segment. Ideally though, there are better cars for track duty though. Last edited by Funf6cyl; 03-01-2019 at 09:08 PM.. |
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03-02-2019, 02:26 PM | #25 | |
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That said I'm not a BMW fanatic. I only like the M3. For Porsche it's the 911 Gt3. Lexus ES 350 sport, daily driver GTI. I think each manufacturer has a specialty. I'm not sure who has the best SUV; Volvo has been winning a lot of awards |
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The rumor right now is that the m3 will have the m5s switchable awd only. No rwd model unless you want one without dct or full power.
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So if: M340(G20) x < 340(F30) x (which by the way is 3695 lbs per bmw specs) And, historically, M3 < 340 Then by maths, M3 (G80) AWD < M340i which is not 3900 lbs because the F30x was not.
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Just saw a G20 (330) at a local dealer in Toronto. Interior is cleaner, all the parts seem to fit together better, flow better. Exterior has a more modern look but otherwise meh. The car doesn't stand out in any way, not inspiring. The E46 inspired headlights with the notch is OK. Rear lights remind me of Lexus. Overall, sleep inducing - certainly doesn't make one want to go and buy it. Hoping the G8x is more inspiring or I'll just write off this generation.
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03-03-2019, 03:36 PM | #31 | |
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Let’s see what the new 340 x drive weighs, but my guess is it’s going to be heavy. Here is a 2016 340 x drive which is over 3800 lbs. So if BMW is correct (which I doubt) the new 340 cannot weigh anymore than 3680 lbs. https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...e-test-review/ |
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I drove the 330i and 320i last weekend during a dealer test drive launch. They had white, blue, grey and silver cars. All M-Sport with the same interior trim and 19" optional tires.
Looks: Its a hit and miss for me. The mineral grey looked the best but overall I'm not excited by exterior looks. Its now like the W205 C-Class sedan where some angles are ok but other angles look awkward. Interior: Big improvements from the F30 that was standing next to it. The seats are higher quality and soft leather. Every panel I pressed had no squeaks, felt solid like the A4 and unlike the W205 C-Class. Huge improvements on the dashboard layout, driver information screen and infotainment. I would avoid the piano black finish on all cars. Drive: The comfort levels are amazing even on passive dampers with 19" tires it managed to soak up bumps better than my Golf 7 1.4 with 16" normal tires. It never felt unsettled by road undulations. It feels like the F10 5-Series inside in terms of road noise, quiet.
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03-04-2019, 02:09 AM | #34 | |
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If you took the f80 weights and add 200lb to that, it’s 3800-3900lb On public roads, the weight is probably not going to matter |
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Lot of people bitching about weight that have likely never tracked a car in their life. Also, M cars have historically come in leaner than their non-M siblings, plus this car is rumored to be 500+ HP. Everyone in here needs to calm the fuck down.
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I get where your comment is coming from; some forum members really do have a big bias towards Porsche. In this car I think it’s a legitimate complaint to wish future m3 is not a 3900lb car |
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While ///M cars bear weight reduction elements over the non-M base cars, they have for the most part been more than offset by the added go-fast goodies.
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My thoughts exactly. I was driving behind a new 3 series tonight and even my 13 yr. old son stated that the rear looked like a Lexus.
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Maybe I was wrong about you!
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Comparable to Audi S4, C43, ....
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