Why do 2015 M3's cost more than 2015 M4's in Vancouver?

YG · 07-17-2018, 07:14 PM

I'm seeing 2015 BMW M3's with similar mileage to that of a 2015 BMW M4 listed at $62,000-$68,000. And I'm seeing a few 2015 M4's range between $55,000-$59,000. None of them beat each other when it comes to options, and none of a extended warranty either, so why are the M3's much higher? None have accidents either and none are rebuilt (I live in Vancouver BC)

FatRear08 · 07-17-2018, 07:17 PM

Paying the premium for those big, wide hips!

vip · 07-17-2018, 08:10 PM

Simple. BMW produced way more M4s. There are more used M4s on the market than m3s.

Thescout13 · 07-17-2018, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vip

Simple. BMW produced way more M4s. There are more used M4s on the market than m3s.

This.

FC4 · 07-17-2018, 08:52 PM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supply_and_demand

HPIA4v2 · 07-17-2018, 08:53 PM

BMW used the old E92 vs E90 demand to predict the F82 vs F80. Just to show 4-door vs 2-door, no guarantee 2-door look is always more in demand.

3PedalMINI · 07-17-2018, 08:54 PM

Aside from the quantity (mostly the reason) M3 is more practical.....

I just ordered an M3 because I fell in the exact category that BMW first created this category for..... somone with a wife, house, dog and who the hell knows what else. Cant afford a Daily and a dedicated track car so this is the next best thing

I had planned to get an M2comp but then the impracticality of my m235 showed after the marriage, house and dog.....Wife said the only way I could get a performance car was if it was 4 doors. I mean, its not THAT much of a compromise?

Budget M3 · 07-18-2018, 12:25 AM

I’ve read about this phenomenon several times now on the forum. I believe the same was true for everything since e36—e.g. 4-dr is more rare so harder to find and therefore more valuable. If they made almost 70k M3/4 cars, how many were 2-dr vs 4-dr?

shortseller · 07-18-2018, 08:02 AM

Supply & demand, people. With a manual and even more desirable. But they won’t appreciate no matter how much we want them too.

xfactor · 07-18-2018, 10:15 AM

Cause M3 drivers are idiots! I kid I kid

G35POPPEDMYCHERRY · 07-18-2018, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FC4

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supply_and_demand

IDK why but i

at this

but yeah a f80 manual can bring a nice premium...conversely finding a buyer is difficult as well

FC4 · 07-18-2018, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G35POPPEDMYCHERRY

IDK why but i

at this

but yeah a f80 manual can bring a nice premium...conversely finding a buyer is difficult as well

I knew my undergrad degree in econ would come in handy!

Hedoniste · 07-18-2018, 12:40 PM

Same thing here in Switzerland

Maitre_Absolut · 07-18-2018, 02:06 PM

Answer is supply.

GTA dealers new car inventory right now:
M3 (10)
M4 (34)

Autotrader national 2017+ search
M3 (34)
M4 (86)

Pretty sure I can negotiate a better deal on an M4 vs M3.

Mousejunior · 07-18-2018, 05:54 PM

And for a four year lease the residual on the M3 is 2% less than the M4 hence lower monthly lease payment.

dzhou102684 · 07-19-2018, 09:17 AM

I burst out laughing at work when I saw this............

Quote:

Originally Posted by FC4

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supply_and_demand

bobblehead · 07-19-2018, 11:01 AM

^ ... the funny part is what ? ... that have you laughing

dzhou102684 · 07-19-2018, 11:05 AM

Errrr the link it self and the fact that it's the page for supply and demand....

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobblehead

^ ... the funny part is what ? ... that have you laughing

CigarPundit · 07-19-2018, 11:09 AM

Because M3 badass. M4 ugly. LOL (I kid...kinda)

Darth One · 07-19-2018, 11:55 AM

It's because only the sexiest BMW owners are allowed to own M4's, so there's more demand for M3's

moonluv810 · 07-19-2018, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3PedalMINI

Aside from the quantity (mostly the reason) M3 is more practical.....

I just ordered an M3 because I fell in the exact category that BMW first created this category for..... somone with a wife, house, dog and who the hell knows what else. Cant afford a Daily and a dedicated track car so this is the next best thing

I had planned to get an M2comp but then the impracticality of my m235 showed after the marriage, house and dog.....Wife said the only way I could get a performance car was if it was 4 doors. I mean, its not THAT much of a compromise?

I'm married with 2 kids, 10 and 6 year old, no dogs though.

I was shopping for an M2, because of the smaller size (I had E36 M3s before kids) and budget. My wife wouldn't let me get an M2. She gave me the ultimatum, if I want to get a nice sport car, go with an M3 since it's got 4 doors. I told her, well it's a bit pricier, like $15K more. She said... you heard me, M3 or no sport car.

Who am I to argue with my CFO?

walter8299 · 07-20-2018, 12:20 PM

The only reason I took M4 over M3 was the hardtop convertible. I am not a tracker, just like sports car and top down. Got two kids 6 and 3 and they loved it! If I was getting the coupe version then I would've settled for the M3 as it is probably one of the best looking sport sedan out there. But the M3/M4 either way you cannot go wrong in terms of power/style/class. I get lots of thumbs up and compliments and my kids would wave back lol.

I think the M4 cab is rare.

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YG New Member 6 Rep 5 Posts Drives: 2009 Bmw 335i Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Vancouver iTrader: (0)	Why do 2015 M3's cost more than 2015 M4's in Vancouver? I'm seeing 2015 BMW M3's with similar mileage to that of a 2015 BMW M4 listed at $62,000-$68,000. And I'm seeing a few 2015 M4's range between $55,000-$59,000. None of them beat each other when it comes to options, and none of a extended warranty either, so why are the M3's much higher? None have accidents either and none are rebuilt (I live in Vancouver BC)
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FatRear08 Major 1427 Rep 1,195 Posts Drives: F90 M5 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: HHI iTrader: (0)	Paying the premium for those big, wide hips!
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vip Major 159 Rep 1,136 Posts Drives: 2001 Alpine White M5 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Fremont, CA iTrader: (1)	Simple. BMW produced way more M4s. There are more used M4s on the market than m3s.
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HPIA4v2 Major 254 Rep 1,391 Posts Drives: F80, F86 Join Date: May 2007 Location: Washington iTrader: (3)	BMW used the old E92 vs E90 demand to predict the F82 vs F80. Just to show 4-door vs 2-door, no guarantee 2-door look is always more in demand.
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3PedalMINI Saving The Manuals! 204 Rep 357 Posts Drives: Manual 18 M3 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Delco PA (Philly) iTrader: (0) Garage List 2014 Wrangler Unlim ... [0.00]	Aside from the quantity (mostly the reason) M3 is more practical..... I just ordered an M3 because I fell in the exact category that BMW first created this category for..... somone with a wife, house, dog and who the hell knows what else. Cant afford a Daily and a dedicated track car so this is the next best thing I had planned to get an M2comp but then the impracticality of my m235 showed after the marriage, house and dog.....Wife said the only way I could get a performance car was if it was 4 doors. I mean, its not THAT much of a compromise? __________________ Ordered M3 6/30/18 PCD Delivery 9/17/18. Manual Sakhir Orange, Cloth Interior, Black 437M's M235i 5/1/2015 ED July 8th @ 4:40pm with PCD Delivery September 9th Gone July 2nd 2018
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Budget M3 Second Lieutenant 125 Rep 289 Posts Drives: Join Date: Nov 2008 iTrader: (0)	I’ve read about this phenomenon several times now on the forum. I believe the same was true for everything since e36—e.g. 4-dr is more rare so harder to find and therefore more valuable. If they made almost 70k M3/4 cars, how many were 2-dr vs 4-dr? __________________ '17 i8 Protonic Red Edition; '17 “30 Jahre” M3 '90 Z1 Red w/red/black leather, GC coilovers, Alpina Dynamic DS-02 '91 850i Mauritius Blue/Black, BBS RS-GT '85 M635CSi Alpine w/buffalo; '03 M3 Conv, Imola ‘85 323i Baur; ‘02 X5 4.6is Estoril; ‘95 Racing Dynamics K30.4
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shortseller Brigadier General 1003 Rep 3,396 Posts Drives: ‘18 ABM F80ZCP/dct Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: NOVA iTrader: (0)	Supply & demand, people. With a manual and even more desirable. But they won’t appreciate no matter how much we want them too. __________________
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xfactor First Lieutenant 152 Rep 328 Posts Drives: 18 M4 6MT ZCP (AY) Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	Cause M3 drivers are idiots! I kid I kid __________________ Wife: X6M Mistress: S1000RR
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Maitre_Absolut Captain 882 Rep 886 Posts Drives: M3 CS, Audi RS6 Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Montreal iTrader: (0)	Answer is supply. GTA dealers new car inventory right now: M3 (10) M4 (34) Autotrader national 2017+ search M3 (34) M4 (86) Pretty sure I can negotiate a better deal on an M4 vs M3.
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Darth One drunk poster 6613 Rep 3,649 Posts Drives: M4 GTS \| E46 M3 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: FL iTrader: (0)	It's because only the sexiest BMW owners are allowed to own M4's, so there's more demand for M3's
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walter8299 Enlisted Member 18 Rep 39 Posts Drives: 2018 M4 Cab w/ Competition Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Toronto (Canada) iTrader: (0)	The only reason I took M4 over M3 was the hardtop convertible. I am not a tracker, just like sports car and top down. Got two kids 6 and 3 and they loved it! If I was getting the coupe version then I would've settled for the M3 as it is probably one of the best looking sport sedan out there. But the M3/M4 either way you cannot go wrong in terms of power/style/class. I get lots of thumbs up and compliments and my kids would wave back lol. I think the M4 cab is rare.
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