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      09-07-2018, 05:09 PM   #1
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Moving on from M3 to an SUV (help?)

Starting to kick around the idea of moving on from my M3, and considering something a little bigger.

I haven't done any serious research or driven anything yet - so I'm hoping to call upon the vast knowledge of Bimmerpost for some guidance.

Here's my first list, with a few initial thoughts about each.
  • Range Rover Sport Supercharged (looks good, ok value)
  • F-Pace S (looks great, good value - SVR out next year)
  • Stelvio QV - (looks great, good value)
  • Macan GTS or used Turbo (a little small, pricey - redesign out next year)
  • Cayenne S or used Turbo (better size, pricey)
  • SQ5 (a little small, looks ok, good value)
  • MB GLC/GLE AMG (maybe...hard for me to get on board with their styling)
  • MB E63S (maybe...not a huge wagon fan, pricey)
  • G05 X5 50i (done that before, no M model yet)
  • Lexus, Acura, Domestics - no.
  • F85 X5M (outgoing model, can probably find deals)
  • Tesla X (too common, not special)
Thanks in advance!
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F15 X5 M (I bet you'll be able to find a super sweet deal on leftover units around Thanksgiving)

Model X P100D
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GLC AMG.
Pics don't do much for me, but I may need to see it in person.
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X3M.
I think it would be hard to go from something that looks great like an M3, to an X3.
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F15 X5 M (I bet you'll be able to find a super sweet deal on leftover units around Thanksgiving)

Model X P100D
No doubt.

The last batch of F10s could be had for about the same (or less) than an F80.
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Stelvio QV, biggest risk, but probably the most fun. Definitely something a little different as well.

I know you dismissed it earlier, but I just had a X3 M40 loaner and it was pretty fun for what it was. Definitely quick enough, especially for SUV standards.
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Pics don't do much for me, but I may need to see it in person.

I think it would be hard to go from something that looks great like an M3, to an X3.

No doubt.

The last batch of F10s could be had for about the same (or less) than an F80.
The X3M is going to be gorgeous.
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Starting to kick around the idea of moving on from my M3, and considering something a little bigger.

I haven't done any serious research or driven anything yet - so I'm hoping to call upon the vast knowledge of Bimmerpost for some guidance.

Here's my first list, with a few initial thoughts about each.
  • Range Rover Sport Supercharged (looks good, ok value)
  • F-Pace S (looks great, good value - SVR out next year)
  • Stelvio QV - (looks great, good value)
  • Macan GTS or used Turbo (a little small, pricey - redesign out next year)
  • Cayenne S or used Turbo (better size, pricey)
  • SQ5 (a little small, looks ok, good value)
  • MB GLC/GLE AMG (maybe...hard for me to get on board with their styling)
  • X5 50i (done that before, but likely favorable lease terms, no M model yet)
  • Lexus, Acura, Domestics - no.
Thanks in advance!
Nooooo don't do it. You'll be hating life if you give up your beautiful, fast, stylish m3 for any of the BUBs on that list.
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What are your goals?

It seems like you want to spend a ton of money to try and have a fun SUV and 5 seats are enough, so my suggestions are E63S wagon, Jeep Trackhawk, P100D Model X

I've known a couple of people who have tried to go this route and realized the lower powered versions were better for their use cases (e.g. when you have family in the car, you won't be hammering on it, and when you do hammer on it, it's still a porky SUV)
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Stelvio QV, biggest risk, but probably the most fun. Definitely something a little different as well.

I know you dismissed it earlier, but I just had a X3 M40 loaner and it was pretty fun for what it was. Definitely quick enough, especially for SUV standards.
I haven't seen one in person, but the pics look amazing. The one review I did read, TopGear said they preferred the Macan - but said the Stelvio was more fun.
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The X3M is going to be gorgeous.
You are probably right.
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What are your goals?

It seems like you want to spend a ton of money to try and have a fun SUV and 5 seats are enough, so my suggestions are E63S wagon, Jeep Trackhawk, P100D Model X

I've known a couple of people who have tried to go this route and realized the lower powered versions were better for their use cases (e.g. when you have family in the car, you won't be hammering on it, and when you do hammer on it, it's still a porky SUV)
The M3 is great, but running on snows for 5ish months isn't very fun. Plus, when it does actually snow, it's clearly a fish out of water. I guess I'm just of dreading another winter in the M3...and my mind is looking for something better.

My commute is rather short, I don't drive with family in the car much (but I have to have the capacity), and would love something I can get to the mountains easier in.

So I guess goals would be...

- Fast
- 5 seats
- AWD
- Foreign
- I don't think I can do a wagon...

Maybe it's a bad idea to shop now...sort of like going to the grocery store when you're hungry.
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I like nicknaz Trackhawk idea as an alternate. Again, I know you said foreign (kind of FCA ). I haven’t driven one, but I’ve checked them out and they look pretty cool in person.
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Great a Cayenne GTS. I love ours! Goes through deep snow and still handles and sounds great!
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Consider X3M40

Rear looks OK
Side looks Acceptable
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I haven't seen one in person, but the pics look amazing. The one review I did read, TopGear said they preferred the Macan - but said the Stelvio was more fun.

You are probably right.

The M3 is great, but running on snows for 5ish months isn't very fun. Plus, when it does actually snow, it's clearly a fish out of water. I guess I'm just of dreading another winter in the M3...and my mind is looking for something better.

My commute is rather short, I don't drive with family in the car much (but I have to have the capacity), and would love something I can get to the mountains easier in.

So I guess goals would be...

- Fast
- 5 seats
- AWD
- Foreign
- I don't think I can do a wagon...

Maybe it's a bad idea to shop now...sort of like going to the grocery store when your hungry.
You should give a modded e63 wagon a try. Bench flash to 700hp and delete resonators and have at it.

With that said, my friend is selling that setup because he likes his 100d model x more.

Instant torque means that unless the 63 is in a lower gear, in the power band and ready to rumble, the Tesla will take it.
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The Macan GTS is a great drivers SUV, and retains exceptional value. No brainer if you ask me.
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Left over F85 X5M! Killer deals to be had Picked one up in July for the wifey Traded in our 6mo old X3 M40i--too feminine from certain angles, not aggressive enough, interior meh, but an overall great package. We will consider the X3M after it's released and the hype dies down.

BTW, I hope I didn't add to your dissonance with all my questions about your M3's winter setup! I ended up going with the Mich PA4 and I'm about to sell the HREs today and stick with a square 9.5" APEX wheel. Couldn't get over the visual stretch
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Left over F85 X5M! Killer deals to be had Picked one up in July for the wifey Traded in our 6mo old X3 M40i--too feminine from certain angles, not aggressive enough, interior meh, but an overall great package. We will consider the X3M after it's released and the hype dies down.

BTW, I hope I didn't add to your dissonance with all my questions about your M3's winter setup! I ended up going with the Mich PA4 and I'm about to sell the HREs today and stick with a square 9.5" APEX wheel. Couldn't get over the visual stretch
I’d be interested in hearing what sort of deal you got (we bought an X4 M40i about 6 months ago to)
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I like nicknaz Trackhawk idea as an alternate. Again, I know you said foreign (kind of FCA ). I haven’t driven one, but I’ve checked them out and they look pretty cool in person.
The TH def has some awesome specs...but it's a $90k Jeep. Which, IMHO, is still a Jeep to most people. Maybe worth a drive though.
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Great a Cayenne GTS. I love ours! Goes through deep snow and still handles and sounds great!
Will definitely be driving this.
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Consider X3M40

Rear looks OK
Side looks Acceptable
Front looks Meh/Bad

Handles well,great engine. Steering lifeless though.
Good insight. Thanks.
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You should give a modded e63 wagon a try. Bench flash to 700hp and delete resonators and have at it.

With that said, my friend is selling that setup because he likes his 100d model x more.

Instant torque means that unless the 63 is in a lower gear, in the power band and ready to rumble, the Tesla will take it.
May need to look at the E63S... I don't love it in pics, but in person may be different.

The P100D is undoubtedly quick, but there are just too many Xs around here for me to get excited about owning one.
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The Macan GTS is a great drivers SUV, and retains exceptional value. No brainer if you ask me.
Will be driving this for sure. Thanks.
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Left over F85 X5M! Killer deals to be had Picked one up in July for the wifey Traded in our 6mo old X3 M40i--too feminine from certain angles, not aggressive enough, interior meh, but an overall great package. We will consider the X3M after it's released and the hype dies down.

BTW, I hope I didn't add to your dissonance with all my questions about your M3's winter setup! I ended up going with the Mich PA4 and I'm about to sell the HREs today and stick with a square 9.5" APEX wheel. Couldn't get over the visual stretch
Ha, no worries. You didn't put any ideas into my head that weren't already there.
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I’d be interested in hearing what sort of deal you got (we bought an X4 M40i about 6 months ago to)
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I'm on the same boat, I have a manual M4 but we want to get a sail boat and kids on the way in the next 2-3 years PLUS a potential dog into the mix and we both have small fast cars so I want to look at the Macan GTS and the X5M, she wants a Model S since she's a gas nut, GLC 63 looks good to me too

I share your hatred with the X3 so don't worry you're not alone lol
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What are your goals?

It seems like you want to spend a ton of money to try and have a fun SUV and 5 seats are enough, so my suggestions are E63S wagon, Jeep Trackhawk, P100D Model X

I've known a couple of people who have tried to go this route and realized the lower powered versions were better for their use cases (e.g. when you have family in the car, you won't be hammering on it, and when you do hammer on it, it's still a porky SUV)
I just went from an M3 to a regular 2018 Q5. Not the SQ5. Your second paragraph rings very true. I don't miss the speed and power at all. It's just a different type of vehicle, with a different purpose. I love the Q5, I have no desire for it to be a race car. It's safe, functional, and does what I need it to do.

That said, I also got tired of the whole race car thing with my M3, so I may not be the best person to talk to.
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